Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

[SnottyLottie]

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

I think probably because he was now the son of the monarch and in terms of seniority the most senior adult in the line of succession after Prince William. And also perhaps to comfort his father. Or not as it turned out.

Of course you could have got through your mum’s death without your partner there @BradfordGirl. My father died when I was a child and had fuck all support.

The only people, who spoke to me with any kindness were 1) A male orderly or nurse, who sat and chatted with me for a while whilst my was father dying in the next hospital room, 2) a teacher, who allowed distressed me to be in her office with her to sit an exam a couple of days after his death and 3) the vicar, who visited the family before the funeral.

No one in the family gave me any consideration. Even the family doctor asked me how my mother was when I visited him (alone) rather than asking after me. I won’t go into what my mother said to me shortly after my father’s death to shame me and make me believe I was a disappointment to him.

Will you please now stop with the narrative that Meghan should have been allowed to be there. You have said yourself you come from a family without dysfunction and I don’t think you have the first clue what that is like.

Harry is still listed as a Counsellor of State, he hasn’t officially been removed from the role and I believe he could be/is regarded as still having Dom status here.

Being with a loved one as they die isn’t a performance. What a very strange way to view
others. So much contempt.

All families handle this differently. It’s certainly not dysfunctional to prefer not have people around you as you die; it is however quite dysfunctional to think your way is the only way and that loving family members sitting quietly with someone as they pass is a ‘show’ of some kind.

It wasn't her place to go, I was shocked she assumed she could, its unfortunate that they put Charles in the difficult position of actually having to say it was family only, leading to the plane taking longer to take off, and actually having to leave without him.

Its sad that Harry being in UK at the time caused more upset for the family (tantrums about Meghan coming, wearing his uniform etc.) instead of him actually offering support and standing United with his family.

He really is a horrible nasty man. I feel sorry for his elderly father and think this will be taking a huge toll on his health too.

ancientgran has explained this is a personal account of how she feels about her death when the time comes. It is also clear in this post that she is talking about herself.

As someone else has pointed out either here, or on another Royal Family thread, the book is a Spanish translation of an English book translated back into English. And it’s unlikely for the Spanish to English translation to have been done by a professional book translator (good ones are sometimes credited by authors). In all likelihood these are not always the exact words Harry used, and some meaning is sometimes lost or changed a bit.

It will be interesting to see the English version and see how meaning may be changed.

I seem to remember a lot of upset and anger from some mn posters after watching the two trailers to the documentary ‘Harry & Meghan.’ Then, upon watching the actual documentary it was discovered that some incorrect assumptions had been made.

@BradfordGirl you sound very immature and lacking in emotional intelligence
Also this wasn't his mother dying it was his 96 year grandmother whom he and his wife had caused untold stress for and her death would have been entirely expected

What an terrible lack of boundaries Harry has to share anything about Balmoral and Queen Elizabeth’s death when it’s so fresh for everyone. It feels like he only went so he could put it in his book. It feels so inappropriate as to be almost abusive.

And it’s unlikely for the Spanish to English translation to have been done by a professional book translator (good ones are sometimes credited by authors)

It is however highly likely that it was done by a good translator. Book translators come in to their own when dealing with more literary works where there is greater need to depart from word-for-word to capture idiom and imagery.

For non-fiction, the need is not so great. Though I do think that the phrase "watching carefully" is one that might have a different nuance in the original English. So agree that putting too much weight on individual words and phrases would be wrong.

However, compared to what's clearly being said in a 'relating events' type way, I think we're looking at only very slight parts of what's been printed

I was always very pro Harry and wanting to distance himself from that lifestyle he was born into but now I can't believe what a revolting human being he's been. Absolutely nothing is sacred. How much respect would he and Meghan had if they had just stepped back quietly and kept a dignified distance. Yes okay people have the right to defend themselves etc but everything he's saying seems pretty indefensible currently

I agree @workiskillingme. I really want to see them settled and happy but don’t see how anyone can trust them now on any level. It would be so very difficult to have any kind of relationship with people who are so willing to use every experience and private interaction as fodder for a book or tv series.

Yes, this. They’ve done EXACTLY what they ostracised the Markles for. Hugely hypocritical.

I, too, was a big Harry fan, most people liked his cheeky side, but he’s gone too far. Like you say, how can any of them trust him now?

If this were a MN relationships thread we’d all be advising the RF to go extremely low contact!

I actually feel a bit sad for Harry’s kids - they’ve got loads of cousins and second cousins of a similar age (and properties big enough for whole-family parties) but they probably won’t get any agency at all re: connecting with extended family. H&M’s rich cali friends could’ve been a bit of a substitution but Harry has been so indiscreet re: sharing personal stories that I expect even their friends will want to keep them at arms length (tell it to the therapist, not the ghost writer!)

At least as normies we can decide to make contact as adults but it’s not as if grown up Archie will be able to drop Uncle Willie a few lines via Facebook and see what comes back!

I don't particularly think that what he's done is revolting. Foolish, more like. I suspect that he sat down with a ghostwriter and opened his mouth and had verbal diarrhoea. How much of what he said is true, I don't know.

The book and docudrama will both have been written and edited to be sensational. He should not have agreed to the book going out as it is.

He should not have agreed to the book going out as it is.

I doubt he had any say in it. Apparently he tried to pull it after the Queen died but there were 20 million reasons why he signed away control. I hope he’s enjoying the money.

After the callous interview they did with Oprah Winfrey during the time his grandad was very ill and his poor grandmother frantic with worry … I actually don’t blame Charles … and as for saying William hit him … I don’t condone it but I’m not surprised … he and his wife have caused so much toxicity and distress … at a time that was totally inappropriate and not forgetting our Queen has just died … it beggars belief … anything he has to say has been drowned out by all of this … let them go do one

Agreed to not have a say in it, then.

I feel sorry for him. He has probably alienated most of his family and old friends already and the book isn't out yet.
He's often described for his army career, but didn't have the sense to not discuss what he did in Afghanistan. As far as army careers go, he was probably relatively sheltered.

I feel sorry for him and his wife. His family only gave the two of them a tiny rent-free 2-up 2-down in a built-up city to start their married life in, I mean, they even were expected to buy their own furniture.

There’s no point Harry writing anything if it reveals little. Or just what we know. His contract would require big stories or what’s the point? He’s foolish. Biggest mistake is mentioning Talibsn fighters. Very disrespectful to the army too. They are angry with him. He’s just about himself now.

Instead of pulling it he added a story about how his wife wasn't allowed to watch her die. Ok that makes sense.

I read that the time he wanted to pull it was in the summer after he had a meeting with the Queen. But after he got back to the States, he changed his mind

So Megan went on tele made a joke about curtsying to the Queen but wants to be at her death bed.. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I did say “apparently”. I agree with you.

Absolutely

ewfriend05 · Today 14:30
So Megan went on tele made a joke about curtsying to the Queen but wants to be at her death bed.. 🤷🏻‍♀️

i agree with you