Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

[SnottyLottie]

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

How do you know Meghan wanted that?
Maybe Meghan just wanted to support Harry. I did this for my DH.

I know Meghan and Harry can do no wrong in your eyes @BradfordGirl no matter how much drivel he has written in his book you will believe everything

I totally understand them declining the invite to the summer gathering. It would have been very unpleasant given how tense some family relationships were at the time

Yet it would have been hunky dory a couple of months later with exactly the same people when they were newly bereaved with grief at its rawest? Nt particularly logical, s it?

Exactly @Blossomtoes

You think the family were travelling to Balmoral to have family fun??
It is not at all comparable. Harry flew up, saw the Queen's body and spoke to her, and did not have dinner with his father, then flew out the next morning.

A summer family gathering is an extended party where you are socialising and having fun.

My mum died at home .. myself and my brother there. It's probably the most meaningful, sacred moment in my life, holding her hand and comforting her as she took her last breaths. An incredibly intimate experience.

Harry's attitude to his dad at this time, well any sympathy I had for him is gone.

He's a narcissist.

@toomuchlaundry Do you always make ridiculous accusations?
Or are you one of those who think the rest of the Royal Family can do no wrong and will defend them no matter what?

Myself and my husband were with my mum when she died. I could not have done it without his support.

So it would have been easier if everyone was having fun. You’re right, it’s not comparable, that was precisely my point. Intruding on other people’s grief when they don’t want you is very different from attending a house party to which you’re invited.

@Blossomtoes Harry in his grief wanted her there, Charles did not. Charles won and she did not come.

They can do what they want, it is not my family. But so many stupid comments suggesting Harry was wrong to want Meghan with him or that Meghan was wrong to want to support her husband.

Supporting your husband in his time of grief is a natural thing for any loving partner to want to do.

The queen had some of her children with her or attempting to get there, if Harry couldn’t manage by himself it would have been better not to go. My mother only had her children and as adults we respected her wishes because she was the one actually dying and her dignity and wishes were the most important. The adult grandchildren didn’t even question the decision.

And the family is very obviously dysfunctional and toxic.

@Boulshired My mum was not controlling thankfully.

wanting to die as comfortably as possible is not controlling.

Dying is also not a spectator sport, if the dying person only wants a couple of people or indeed no-one with them in their last minutes then that is their right (and that isn’t being controlling)

I agree in terms of who is in the room, but not about who is in the very large palace.

He writes: 'I advanced with uncertainty and saw her. I stayed still, watching her carefully for a good while.

I wonder why he says he was "watching her carefully". It reads as if he was wanting to make sure she was really dead or something. Most people in that situation would be talking about looking at the deceased with love, not watching her carefully.

@SnowlayRoundabout
*He writes: 'I advanced with uncertainty and saw her. I stayed still, watching her carefully for a good while.

I wonder why he says he was "watching her carefully". It reads as if he was wanting to make sure she was really dead or something. Most people in that situation would be talking about looking at the deceased with love, not watching her carefully*

I think ‘watching her’ might be a translation issue. What we are reading at the moment is something written in English, translated into Spanish and then back into English in a hurry. When the original comes out in a few days it might well say ‘looking at her’

According to the quote he didn’t need or want her there to support him.

He said Charles should have started the conversation with the fact that Kates not going. He then went without her. He wanted her to be excluded, if other spouses were going. When he found out they weren’t, he went without her.

He could have chose not to go and gone with the other grandkids.

Oddly, how you handled your mother dying, isn’t how everyone else has to do it. I got through my own mother dying, without dp there. You say you couldn’t and that’s fine. But Harry obviously could because he did.

Not sure why you keep insisting how you did it, is how everyone else should do it.

To be fair, I remember watching my mum really closely. There were times I could have swore I saw her cheat move. My dad said the same.

I expect that it’s your brain playing tricks. People always breath, you brain sees what it expects to see.

Meghan apparently had had no schooling in royal protocol, she's a 'hugger' , she would have had no idea how to behave if she had been allowed to go with Harry when the Queen died. Plus the fact she couldn't be trusted not to be taking notes and selling them to the highest bidder.
it's telling that Harry didn't give the reasons Charles said no in the book.

What about what your mum wanted? And did you invite your children and their partners?

Maybe they were all a little upset about the tell all memoir that they knew was being written, and were still upset about the TV interview.

Maybe they were aware of the media bunfight that would happen if Meghan did turn up at Balmoral.

Maybe the Queen had made her wishes clear about who should be in her house while she was dying.

Maybe they were trying to cope with their own grief while managing a public event that hadn’t happened in 70 years and for which few people could remember the rules.

So something I have always wondered about this was why Harry got to go and the other cousins didn't (Peter, Eug, Zara, Bea)? I get Wills as he was next in line, but Harry's status as a non Dom means his Councillor of State role is redundant.

Were the RF still trying to show that Wills and Harry are on an equal footing?

I assume so. I think they tried to step very carefully. But it still wasn’t enough for him.