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Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

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SnottyLottie · 05/01/2023 20:48

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

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IveHadEnoughNowFfs · 06/01/2023 13:31

Legrandetraitor · 05/01/2023 20:49

I knew this at the time via a connection and I told everyone under a different username and everyone laughed and called me a liar!!!!!

I remember that post! I believed you! Also under a different username 🤣

purpledalmation · 06/01/2023 13:35

I suspect what Harry meant was 'I need Meggsy with me to hold my handy pandy'

BradfordGirl · 06/01/2023 13:38

@purpledalmation That is such a horrible comment.
I needed my husband after mu grandmother died who I was very close to. If someone had said that mocking comment to me I would never have spoken to them again.

AliceOlive · 06/01/2023 13:49

Presumably your husband didn’t go on international television to mock and criticize your grandmother, her country, her house and her family, though.

Did they not consider that this would make Meghan persona non grata at intimate family events?

My parents will forgive me infinitely. My husband? Not so much. He and I both ensure they are never aware that he has any feelings toward them other than love and understanding.

Snippedasababy · 06/01/2023 13:49

Apologetically, he stuttered that he simply didn’t want it to get crowded. No-one’s wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn’t either.

Harry adds that he told his father: “You should have said that at the start.”

Wow. So while his mother was dying, he was expected to communicate with Harry in a way and only in the way Harry finds acceptable.

and Harry clearly didn’t want Meghan there to support him. He wouldn’t have been fine with her not being there, if Charles had led with Kate not attending.

It was all about him and his tit for tat ‘well if his wife is there m, my wife will be’ not taking into account the difference in relationships.

I have no idea why the planes were delayed. But I very much believe, other people will feel this versions isn’t correct.

AliceOlive · 06/01/2023 13:50

And honestly, I think they let Harry come only out of love. He didn’t belong there, but constantly compares himself to William so would never have understood why.

Blossomtoes · 06/01/2023 13:53

I needed my husband after mu grandmother died who I was very close to

Your parents weren’t enough for you?

Snippedasababy · 06/01/2023 13:55

BradfordGirl · 06/01/2023 13:38

@purpledalmation That is such a horrible comment.
I needed my husband after mu grandmother died who I was very close to. If someone had said that mocking comment to me I would never have spoken to them again.

And what if the other people there would have been extremely uncomfortable with him there? The children of your your grandmother, should have someone they are uncomfortable with there because you need it?

My brother wife got to my mums house before I did, the day she died. My sil has been in my family for 15 years and had a close relationship with mum. I was fine with that. We get on she doesn’t make me feel uncomfortable.

I didn’t take my do of 5 years who hasn’t spent much time with my dad or brother, due to working away for months at a time, on a regular basis. If dp had, had callings out with my family, I definitely wouldn’t have done. That would be unfair on my brother and dad. Who, in this situation trump Dp needs or my needs to have someone just there.

AlliwantforChristmasisgu · 06/01/2023 13:58

He must have zero self awareness. Most people would think that the wishes of a grieving son take priority over a grandson, and that the exclusion of a non-blood relative at a death bed is entirely appropriate and a decision for the immediate family (Queen/Charles/Anne/Andrew/Edward). If he puts that it the book and expects sympathy he is deluded.

Of course, if he put it in and then said something like 'I realise now that we were all in a state of heightened emotions and I should have been more understanding' then it might be excusable.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 06/01/2023 14:04

I think what’s very telling is that in that situation, when your father is losing his mother, even if you think “that’s a dick move Dad” you don’t say it.

Even if you’re smarting and think “my wife should have been with me” or “I should have been allowed to bring her” and maybe even “all us grandkids and partners should have been there” you just be an adult and accept that your Dad, and his siblings, made a choice when they were in a tough time. Whilst you might not like it they’re allowed to do that.

most people are adult enough to accept that without giving the parent grief.

Serenster · 06/01/2023 14:14

Harry was not contacted until the Queen had died.

Harry was obviously contacted before the Queen died or he wouldn’t have been having conversations about whether his wife would accompany him to her deathbed.

If you mean he was not contacted before the 6.30pm media announcement that she had died was made - the Palace say they did contact him. Harry’s book tells a different story. Who knows which is true. I can certainly see why they would have left telling him until last minute though, as they would doubtless not have wanted the Queen’s death to be announced by Omid Scobie.

Boulshired · 06/01/2023 14:16

I still can’t get over that people think the last few hours of someone life is more about their feelings than the person who is actually dying. The time after the death can be made all about you if you want.

Mañanarama · 06/01/2023 14:16

they would doubtless not have wanted the Queen’s death to be announced by Omid Scobie.

😂😂😂

BethJ62 · 06/01/2023 14:18

toomuchlaundry · 06/01/2023 12:50

@BradfordGirl the Queen was still alive when they were sorting out travel arrangements. The rest of the family, including other grandchildren, gathered the day after she had died. Harry had left Balmorel by then I think

Yes he took the first flight out of Aberdeen having refused to have dinner with his father and brother.

DelilahJane · 06/01/2023 14:35

The crux of the matter is who's feelings take precedent?

Option A (sane people)

  1. The dying person
  2. Their children
  3. Their grandchildren
  4. The Grandchildren's spouses

or

Option B (Sussex option)

  1. Grandchildren's Spouses
  2. Grandchildren
  3. Everyone Else
ancientgran · 06/01/2023 14:40

BradfordGirl · 06/01/2023 12:42

@milveycrohn It is not always possible for spouses to be there after your parents or grandparents have died. But most people do not ban them. Most people recognise that the people who loved the person who dies needs support and so needs their spouse there if they want them there.

But I am sure we will have loads more posts about dysfunctional families and how with their dying breath their mum told them not to allow their husband to join her in the house after their mum's death, and that was the right thing to do.

With the many comments about adults in families assaulting other adults and this being seen as normal and fine, I am realising how many people here live in highly dysfunctional families.

My family isn't dysfunctional but I don't want anyone sitting round watching/waiting for me to die. Say your goodbyes and bugger off, I'm not some performance for people to watch.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/01/2023 14:43

My family isn't dysfunctional but I don't want anyone sitting round watching/waiting for me to die. Say your goodbyes and bugger off, I'm not some performance for people to watch

Especially when there are some parts of your family that will monetise as much as they can. Let's face it, judging by the book extracts we've been treated to, dignity (his own and other people's) is a foreign concept to PH.

DelilahJane · 06/01/2023 14:45

I appreciate that everyone's experience is difference but when DH Grandfather died expectantly at home he got the telephone call that he had passed and the family where gathering at the house. DH is socially awkward even around his own lot and really wanted me to go but I encouraged him to go on his own, drove him up to let him mourn and have a drink with his family.

I just went home busied myself making lasagnas for my PIL and GPIL house so those traveling in would have a nice home cooked meal waiting on them. I dropped the food off when picking DH up after a few hours and offered my condolences without lingering. I've been part of the family for 15+ years

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there our many ways of supporting your partner during difficult times without your physical presence imposing on others who could be feeling extremely vulnerable.

The RF knew they only had limited quiet time with HMQ before basically handing her over for the public to mourn.

BethDuttonsTwin · 06/01/2023 14:46

as they would doubtless not have wanted the Queen’s death to be announced by Omid Scobie.

<<snort>> 😆

BethDuttonsTwin · 06/01/2023 14:47

DelilahJane · 06/01/2023 14:35

The crux of the matter is who's feelings take precedent?

Option A (sane people)

  1. The dying person
  2. Their children
  3. Their grandchildren
  4. The Grandchildren's spouses

or

Option B (Sussex option)

  1. Grandchildren's Spouses
  2. Grandchildren
  3. Everyone Else

Also 😆

BradfordGirl · 06/01/2023 14:48

When I was with my mum when she was dying I was not watching a performance. It is a disgusting concept.

toomuchlaundry · 06/01/2023 14:51

When it was looking that my nan was nearing her end, DH and I who lived a few hours away, travelled to my parents who lived a few miles from my nan. I was then going to go into the nursing home with my parents to say goodbye. Unfortunately, my nan died sooner than expected so we didn't get there in time. Although, she liked DH, he would not have visited my nan if we had been there in time as she wouldn't have wanted my DH to see her in her nightie at her most vulnerable time. We had visited her a few weeks before with DS when she was dressed and reasonably well. Those were the memories that she would want for them and her, not her dying in bed

ancientgran · 06/01/2023 14:51

BradfordGirl · 06/01/2023 14:48

When I was with my mum when she was dying I was not watching a performance. It is a disgusting concept.

I am entitled to have a view of my own death. If your mum felt like me it would have been disgusting to put your own feelings first, hopefully your mother wanted you there and that's fine but don't think you have some right to dictate how others feel about something as personal and final as their own death.

Blossomtoes · 06/01/2023 14:52

BradfordGirl · 06/01/2023 14:48

When I was with my mum when she was dying I was not watching a performance. It is a disgusting concept.

It’s how @ancientgran feels. She’s entitled to feel exactly as she chooses about her own death. What’s disgusting is you policing and judging other people’s feelings because they don’t accord with yours.

ancientgran · 06/01/2023 15:16

Blossomtoes · 06/01/2023 14:52

It’s how @ancientgran feels. She’s entitled to feel exactly as she chooses about her own death. What’s disgusting is you policing and judging other people’s feelings because they don’t accord with yours.

Thank you. Isn't it awful if we can't even say how we'd like our own death to be as other people think they have rights to dictate.

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