Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

[SnottyLottie]

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

with every passing day all the other Royals (apart from Andrew obviously) go up in my estimation. They clearly sussed out Harry and Meghan ages ago.

I understand why Harry would have been there. The other GC of the Queen have had 2 parents. Harry, like William, didn’t have a mother after age 12, and I suspect the Queen would have been more important to those 2 boys than to the other grandchildren. Not to say she wouldn’t have loved them all, and they all loved her.

would have imaged they would have published more than various snippets if the papers had the complete book. Nothing is fully explained - just bits ‘n pieces.

There is still copyright.

How many times have we heard about the “ end of the Royal Family “? After the Abdication, Margaret and Townsend, Diana and other times . Yet it survives . Harry and Meghan will soon be a footnote .

Harry also seems to forget how he and M refused recent invitations from the Queen when she was alive, and how they left the Platinum celebrations as fast as they could.

Just wondering how we know m&h refused invitations from the Queen?

They definitely refused in 2019 as they stated that Archie was too young to travel so far (!). Then swanned off to S France .

My Dad is currently terminally ill, and I've been his main advocate for want of a better word. I recently had to tell my sister to stop taking her (new) DH in to visit him in the hospice, as he's very loud, Dad doesn't know him very well or particularly like him. It was a horrible conversation to have to have with my sister, but what Dad wants is the only thing that matters.

Harry needs to grow the fuck up and stop thinking that everything has to be about him. It really bloody isn't.

When someone's mother is dying ..... you don't argue on the phone about who you want to bring with you to her death bed.

You STFU and behave like a grown up

Do we think Harry has the capacity to behave like a grown up?

Given the Middleton's capacity to behave like adults (i.e. not spill their guts to the press every 5 minutes and put other people - particularly the wellbeing of the children- before themselves), I'd bet Kate stayed away just to make things easier for Charles, William and the Queen herself at this sad time. All because H & M are big, whiny babies and have to make everything - even the death of the longest serving monarch in history - about them. They see perceived slights everywhere even where there aren't any. Seeing the bigger picture really isn't within their brain power seemingly.

His comments about killing in Afghanistan will make his children much more of a target. Is this the action of a responsible father? I don't think he knows how to be a grown up.

Plenty of people have had much harder and more abusive childhoods than Harry - not having enough to eat, not having secure accommodation or a place to sleep, long term abuse, fleeing as refugees- and have managed to grow up into functional adults. With all his money and access to the best therapists there really is no excuse.

Yes, he had a hard childhood, and they clearly weren't happy as royals, fine. But at what point do the very real harms they are doing to others outweigh what's happened to him? I'd argue very much already.

He's put a big target on his back mentioning how many people he killed in Afghanistan, so the security costs if they come to the coronation will be correspondingly higher. I don't want that level of risk brought over, I don't want my taxes paying for that when people are dying every day because of an underfunded NHS and ridiculous ambulance wait times. There's a thread at the moment about a very ill baby and the OP was told they were category 1 but the wait for an ambulance was 5 hours. So she had to take the very poorly child in herself (not being able to see them the whole time she was driving in as they were in the back - so not safe at all).

They need to just stay away now. If they come I'd like to see Harry do something decent like go and visit an A&E or even do a shift. I'm sure as former military the very overstretched staff could find him something to do.

Honestly… with these children having a second mum in his live in nanny Kate and William no longer have a live-in nanny (or indeed any live-in staff) since they moved to Adelaide Cottage. That was part of the point of their move as I understand it (otherwise presumably they could have lived somewhere bigger and grander). In any case I think Kate was right not to go - it wasn't as if William was going to be on his own, he was surrounded by by family. Nice for her to be there for her own kids and try to keep things as normal as possible.

I can well believe that Meghan wasn't welcome when HMQ was dying. To me it shows that they are both profoundly selfish individuals. I have been v impartial up until this point but they have demonstrated exactly who they are now and it isn't pretty. To all those saying that it's all Harry do you really think that Meghan had no input? If he is so in love as they say, if she had said "look Harry, it's really not a good idea to put all this in the public domain" of course he would have listened. She is just as culpable as he is.

As for being invited to someone's deathbed - I was extremely close to my long departed MIL but totally respected her wishes that she only wanted her DC with her during her last days. Why? Because I loved and respected her, and it wasn't about ME!!

As for William having a temper (which to some M&H fangirls seems to imply that this makes him a monster), plenty of people have a temper. My DF had a corking temper sometimes but he was also a wonderful loving father who put his wife and DC first. If anything my respect for Charles and William has grown following these revelations.

As regarding the fall of the House of Windsor, I think that this has been a tremendous own goal and if anything will have galvanised public goodwill towards the RF.

I don’t think that it’s strange behaviour. When my turn to die comes around, I’d not want my children’s partners there. I love them all - they are very good people - but just my children please (if I’m lucky enough to die in my own bed surrounded by my children, that is).

Honestly I think this ridiculous memoir in which H obviously thinks he's making a good case for them being hard done by but which is making everyone else think 'spoilt, entitled, snobbish, rich brats' is doing a lot to make people more in support of the Royal family.

It's certainly had that effect for me. I'm really appreciating how we don't have to hear about every mind numbing potential perceived tiny slight from the rest of them, and I've never been a bigger fan of the Middletons mainly because I know absolutely nothing about them and would prefer to keep it that way.

When my DPs grandmother was dying I didn’t need to be told not to attend, I gave the immediate family space. When each of my parents died my DP didn’t attend, neither did my brothers.

When my father’s mother died my mother didn’t attend.

This is perfectly normal. Harry thinking it is all about him just shows he is delusional.

When his father said his version of 'just you Harry, we want to keep the numbers small' the only response he should have given was 'ok dad, see you soon'. He's absolutely despicable.

We will never know the truth, but some statements say the family William, Edward, Sophie) missed saying goodbye to the Queen as H was poncing about trying to get M on the plane, so the plane was delayed (for over 2 hrs) and they all arrived after her death.
If that is true, I can’t see how Edward and Sophie (and Andrew) could ever forgive H&M.

If Harry says it, it must be true, mustn't it?

Agree. It's unfortunately very familiar to me too.
Even if they start to hate each other, it's 'them against the world,' everyone out to get them, everyone else in the wrong. Total victim mentality and narcissism. The invented drama can never die because it's all they've got.

Yes we are all different. I've told mine that when the time comes they can come and say goodbye and then clear off and leave me to do what I can only do alone. I don't want spectators.

Animals have the right idea in my opinion and they just go off on their own and die, well lots of them I can't swear for all of them, but I'm quite happy to accept that other people will have their own ideas. Shame Harry doesn't realise it isn't all about him and Meghan.

He also doesn’t seem to appreciate that by publishing his book he has vindicated Charles’ decision. Inviting Harry to any family events is like inviting a vindictive tabloid reporter along.

It all seems totally bizarre considering Harry's dislike for publicity and the tabloids. Every tabloid today is having a field day with the front pages full of this stuff. William must be wondering what on earth he's done in life to deserve this, I think the whole RF have tried to talk some sense into H&M but nothing worked.

Harry now has more publicity than ever, less privacy than ever, less public support. I wonder if they needed the money so much that none of the above even matters.

I'm assuming your DH wasn't the future king, his mum wasn't the Queen and the world's media wasn't watching? It's not really comparable...

Every quote etc should start Once upon a time.......

Everyone knew this at the time. It's why the media photographed Kate collecting the DCs from school - to prove to Meghan than none of the ILs were going to the Queen's deathbed.
It's also fairly normal not to have everyone especially when there is quite a large family. We didn't have any ILs when my father was dying. We also didn't have any grandchildren. It was immediate family only ie his wife and children.

Yip Charlie boy is entitled to control who is in attendance at his mother's bedside. Not all of the grandchildren were there. Fergie wasn't there either, shes still Andrews partner, and the Royal who taugh Meg to curtsey, and who was there when Meg first met HMQ .

Harry & Meghan had already slated the RF on Oprah he knew they had deals made with Netflix and books coming out. Why the fuck would he want to risk the Queens private last moments being splattered everywhere.
It's almost surprising Harry was even welcome himself

In circumstances like this, the death of their great grandmother, I would imagine that the children wanted their mother not a nanny, however fond they are of her. It was not just the death, it was the massive surrounding publicity, all their school would have been talking about it the next day, to their school friends the Queen had died, to them it was their beloved great grandmother.