Meghan WAS banned from Balmoral after Queen’s death

[SnottyLottie]

In his book, Harry also claims that his father told him that Meghan should not come to Balmoral. The Queen was staying at her Scottish estate when she died last September.

The prince wrote: "Then my father called again. He told me I was welcome at Balmoral, but… without her. He started to explain his reasons, but they didn't make any sense at all, and it was disrespectful as well. I did not tolerate it from him.

"Don't even think about talking about my wife like that.

"Repentant, he said, stammering, that he simply didn't want the place to be full of people. Nobody's wife was going to go, not even Kate, he told me, so Meg shouldn't either."

source: news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

There is one huge difference, Diana wasn’t paid for either the Bashir interview or the Andrew Morton book .

It was hardly a banning though was it?

Surely just advised that actually no, now wasn't the time to bring her.

Why he felt the need to push that point I can't imagine tbh.

It’s clear why she wanted to go - more cannon fodder for her erstwhile memoirs she’s supposed to be compiling.
I’m surprised they didn’t want Netflix to accompany them 🤬

Probably only going to repeat what everyone else has said, but we knew this at the time.

It was a 'ban' - another emotive word.

It was more of a 'it wouldn't be wise/ appropriate' in the circumstances.

There had been a huge family fall out even then.
William and Catherine had decided she would stay in London with their children.

The only other woman there (not blood relative) was Sophie Wessex who the queen evidently treated as another daughter and they had a close relationship.

And both Anne and Camilla had been in Scotland all the time anyway. Charles had visited the Queen daily for weeks.

Given the frostiness between H and W, it made sense to ask MM to stay away at such an emotional time, especially as Catherine was not going.

Harry also seems to forget how he and M refused recent invitations from the Queen when she was alive, and how they left the Platinum celebrations as fast as they could.

'You can't have it both ways' is something he needs to learn,

But these aren’t the actions of someone who seriously wants their family to take steps towards them to reconcile.

They are if his relationship with his family is deeply dysfunctional and his actions are motivated by emotion, not logic.

I hope they continue to ignore this. They don't need to acknowledge it, Harry has no proof of his claims and as many things have shown in the past, he contradicts himself regularly. It's the best way to deal with an abusive family member like Harry, just ignore them. He can't seriously think they will come begging for him back. If he does, he's really delusional.

The night my father died it was just our mother and we 3 children who were there. My adult children and all our spouses came the next morning to pay respects as the undertaker came to take charge of his body. It was very special for us 4 to be with him one last time, just as it was when we were children. Our spouses didn't have to be asked not to come, they didn't feel excluded. It was a special moment in amongst all the grief of his drawn out death. When someone dies I have always thought that you just do what the chief mourner wants and that what you want/ think/ feel stays inside your head.

It's sickening how he has a hissy fit over M not being allowed at the Queen's death bed, but when she was alive, (shortly before she died) he refused several occasions to visit her (and couldn't get away fast enough after the Jubilee.)

We will never know the truth, but some statements say the family William, Edward, Sophie) missed saying goodbye to the Queen as H was poncing about trying to get M on the plane, so the plane was delayed (for over 2 hrs) and they all arrived after her death.

Most people would accept their father's wishes at a dreadful time. Harry doesn't seem to have the brain power to realise these things.

This.

When someone's mother is dying and that will make you King, you don't argue on the phone about who you want to bring with you to her death bed.

You STFU and behave like a grown up.

Honestly, I've spent my career studying and teaching Shakespeare and thinking those 'family tragedies' were far fetched (King Lear comes to mind, all those daughters arguing over who loves their father the most and who should have the most of his kingdom) but this one unfolding in real life takes the biscuit.

I guess they didn’t want to make such a sensitive time about M and H again. I bet Kate was asked to stay away just to avoid singling out Meghan, which was unfair but necessary:

Seeing all the shit flying around with this book, I think it was wise to keep Harry and Meghan away as much as possible to ensure the final moments of the queen remained private and about the family. Harry is making every little thing all about himself.

I would also imagine that, given the Opra thing, the Netflix thing that they were filming at the time and the book, that they didn't want the inevitable graphic description of the Queens final moments being released to the public. Neither Meghan or Harry can be trusted to respect the most private of moments when money is waved in their face.

Proof of more selfishness from them both imo.

Yes, Charles kept Megan away from his mother in her last hours. Megan who wants nothing to do with the RF and wants to openly talk nasty about them on Oprah. Would you invite such a woman to your mothers last breaths ? I wouldn’t.

Kate stayed in London because it was the children’s first day at school as well. This is about the Queen, not about MM and if Harry can’t see that he’s an even bigger idiot than he comes across as.

And why would Kate be there when the rest of her grandchildren weren’t??? I’m MN parlance Harry needs to give his head a wobble.

What I don't understand is why Charles then apologises to Harry. It was Harry who misinterpreted the reason that Meghan had to stay away and gets stroppy. It seems spectacularly arrogant to expect your dad to apologise for your misunderstanding, especially when he is at his mother's deathbed. The whole thing reeks of Harry's entitlement, paranoia and stupidity.

Oh good point. Yes, he must have been able to do rewrites (I know - with the ghostwriter) after the Queen’s death.

I’ve also wondered about the authenticity of the ‘Spanish editions.’

I would have imaged they would have published more than various snippets if the papers had the complete book. Nothing is fully explained - just bits ‘n pieces.

Or perhaps the papers still have to pay for serialisation rights before they do publish chapters etc.

At any rate, I feel like we could be seeing the fall of The House of Windsor, as we know it. Much of the mystery and magic has been stripped away, imo. Not much glamour left. It’s been in decline for a number of years, but this may hasten it.

And given how bent out of shape most of the male members of the Royal Family seem, perhaps this will be a good thing for the youngest generation - maybe they won’t have to live as their parents and grandparent have.

Honestly… with these children having a second mum in his live in nanny, I just think that they would have easily understood if mummy and daddy were away given the magnitude of the circumstances. My parents were not there to pick me up when my grandfather died but they sent in someone close and kind enough to be there for us. I have never doubted that what they did was what was needed and the right decision and he was not the queen.

Having said that, it would have been a better press release and reflection of reality to say that Kate stayed back to comfort the children rather than making it about it all being the first day at a new school.

Maybe Meghan didn’t want to be there either. Maybe Harry wanted her there. We have no way of knowing, at least not yet, what Meghan wanted in this situation.

No doubt we’ll be told when she releases her own tawdry memoir.

*I mean, Harry has a whole book "slagging off his family". Naming actual names etc.

Megan has not actually done this. It's interesting that despite him actually doing the "slagging off" as you put, it's Megan who is being accused of this.*

They've both done it. The point is that Harry was a grandchild, an actual relation and a child of the future King, she is just married to him.

Given the context of this conversation the book is irrelevant as it hadn't been published, and she did have the bigger role in the OW interview which at that point was the most damaging set of claims towards the Royal Family.

So yes, I think they were absolutely right to keep her away from Balmoral because neither of them can be trusted and she didn't need to be there.

FFS why should Meghan have gone? Not only did no other grandchild’s spouse go to Balmoral, none of the other GC even went up immediately, other than William (understandable as he would become heir to the throne). That Harry alone was able to go up so quickly should have been - and would have been - enough for anyone else.
Don’t hear the other GC complaining…

There’s so many different translations going around, but one I read said that he had a phone call from Charles, can’t recall exactly but that Queen was gravely ill
Harry said he then ‘wrote’ to William (texted/emailed presumably?) asking how he was getting there, him and Meghan were looking at flights.
William didn’t respond.

He then had another call from Charles saying basically ‘Meghans not welcome’.

What I’m taking from that is Charles initially called him in a panic, saying get here now, assuming Harry would know he meant alone.

William has then received text/whatever, made it known to Charles they were both coming, And Charles then called him back to put the brakes on it

At any rate, I feel like we could be seeing the fall of The House of Windsor, as we know it.

I'm not so sure - the more I hear of this book, the more sympathy I have for Charles, particularly after this latest revelation.