To wonder if the allegations Harry has made against his brother might be true?

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We put the royal family on a pedestal, however they are a family with potential issues and dysfunction like a lot of families have.

I just find myself wondering if these allegations might have some truth behind them and what that might mean for the future of the royal family.

I also wonder what Dianna would think of this feud between her two boys. I expect she would be very sad…

“The Duchess has asked the tabloid press to “ stop the exhausting circus that they alone are creating”

Did she really say that!?

I'm afraid so ... the self-delusion on the "they alone" is stunning, as we saw most recently with the "near catastrophic" alleged incident in New York.
In fairness I suppose the media could have failed to report it, but does anyone imagine, even for an instant, that this would have suited them?

Good points @Cranberrystreet street re Meghan and the Press.

How far has Harry's racism really been rescinded though? Calling Taliban fighters 'chess pieces' is dehumanising and, as they are POC, also racist.

He's not changed. He's just learned to parrot the sound bites and produce his own little word salads

So he's not changed from being on good terms with William (he says himself he loves his father and brother) to insulting them, kate, Camilla, and almost the entire family?

Not saying Meghan has incited this overt hatred of his family, just that she was a catalyst to the change that has occurred. No one looking at Harry, or listening to him can say he's happy. Surely a loving wife and children would turn someone's life around?

No one looking at Harry, or listening to him can say he's happy

Not knowing him I couldn't say, but many who (presumably) also don't know him insist all the time that this is precisely what he is

All I've ever personally said is that his words and actions aren't usually the sign of someone who's happy, but I do agree with the thing about it being ridiculous to blame women for these apparent falling-outs. After all, even if any of it did come from Meghan Harry's got a tongue in his head, and if he chooses not to use it that's on him

Actually I disagree about Harry not being happy. He seems happy and he says he’s happy. I’m sure he’s not happy with everything. Who is happy about everything?

I don’t think Harry hates his family. Do you think Charles hated the Queen when he criticised how he was brought up? I don’t.

I agree with you. I never get this view that he is miserable, sad, unhappy blah blah.

I think he is happy with his little family in the sun and the fact he has court cases ongoing (I don't blame him) to me speaks of a transition period. He has a fab wife, two gorgeous little children and far more freedom than he's ever had. What's not to like?

And should he be grinning from ear to ear with happiness every minute of the day? No!

I'm a right grouch sometimes, doesn't mean I'm unhappy!

Well said Roussette and Morestrangerthings

Real life is much more nuanced and complex than the way it is presented in the tabloids.

Harry and Meghan have two gorgeous young children. I imagine they feel very blessed and liberated!

The circus started when their relationship was made public, not by their actions at all. Just their relationship. Its is simply strange to try and argue otherwise when its demonstrably false.
I believe that every person on this earth should get to decide what thye make public or not, unless it is 'in the pubic interest', like whether or not you abused a trafficked girl for instance. Not just that some find it of interest, but something the public should actually know. Otherwise privacy is about what each of us choose to show the world, and what we choose to keep quiet. I do not think the tabloid press should control what other people choose to share with the world and I sympathise with any person who has had that experience. I do not care if they are wealthy or not, and those claiming against the press at the moment come form all kinds of backgrounds.

It seems every wrong foot they can place in front of themselves, they do
I see it quite differently. What I see is a vengeful press and some members of the public scrutinising their every move and every word and twisting it to mean the absolute worst. Its so extreme I think the only motivation is to destroy them, their marriage and their life. What kind of person would continue this invasive scrutiny after they've said it made one of them suicidal? I mean what is the point? If anyone needs to move on, it is the British press and public.

I think Harry is happy with his life. Obviously, he will miss his family and friends here from time to time but he has so much over the pond and is very blessed. We'll see him and his family going from strength to strength from now on and good luck to them.

Oh no, sorry to hear that, one of my kids got it quite bad last year. I hope you're well recovered now. Yes it is weird, criticism of the Taliban isn;t racist! I've heard everything now!

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^^ Absolutely this Iwantcakeeveryday - this is spot on! Exactly what I wanted to say but you express it much better than I can!

All the hatred against a family with young children has become so distasteful.

Aww @Samcro' How awful for you. It seems some people escape with it so lightly and others are really hit with it.
Hope you feel better now

@Iwantcakeeveryday The press coverage was universally fawning and positive at the beginning of the relationship. That can't be denied.

Your opinion is valid as it's your opinion. Mine is backed up by facts.

That's not true at all! You said 'the circus' started after Oprah etc and that is not true at all, its simply wrong to say otherwise. There was definitely negative stories before their wedding too, and lots of intrusive behaviour before and after the wedding, including about the actual wedding. There was always a circus around their relationship.

@Iwantcakeeveryday Meghan loves publicity and fame. She's an actress for goodness sake. They seek publicity all their working lives. I said the negativity started with the Tom Bradby interview in South Africa. Please link to any negative stories prior to this? I'm genuinely curious about whether this occurred as I don't read the papers, so I may have missed it?

And the threads on here were horrible about them, as they got engaged. I remember the one the day after the engagement news... "I'm fucking sick of Harry & Meghan"
How unfair is that.

It's there and evidenced in MN history