To wonder if the allegations Harry has made against his brother might be true?

[pearlearringgirl]

We put the royal family on a pedestal, however they are a family with potential issues and dysfunction like a lot of families have.

I just find myself wondering if these allegations might have some truth behind them and what that might mean for the future of the royal family.

I also wonder what Dianna would think of this feud between her two boys. I expect she would be very sad…

They always looked as if they had a relaxed, bantering relationship. You don't know what's going on inside, there are stories of actors doing convincing love scenes or friendship for their roles but loathing each other. Who knows, but I don't know they are good enough actors, Harry seems to show his emotions quite visibly so would he act convincingly if he was resentful but trying to look friendly?

I genuinely don't understand.

I have paraphrased my post for you because you asked about it. There's no more I can do
I think it's best we leave it now

The only proof we have currently is what we've seen with our own eyes ,
William, Kate and Harry seemed to get on extremely well in public, Harry seemed extremely happy and joking in public, this all could have been an act , however such a long running one would have shown cracks , when Meghan first appeared, everyone seemed happy in public, in interviews, they were the family she never had.
This was all happy , happy in public.
Then it wasn't now we're told Harry was never happy!
It's all very strange, and I don't believe in coincidences.

well, I am thoroughly perplexed.
I think it’s only fair toRecsp

• your post was not clear to me. And I asked you about it

you told me to go and read it and did I want you to phrase it differently i couldn’t read it, as it was deleted, so asked you to do that you told me you didn't know what you had said and that I had obviously read it first time and I responded I was asking as it did not make sense to me Then you remembered and recapped but said you didn’t understand

for the avoidance of doubt - I did not understand your post.

water under the bridge

water under the bridge

Agreed. I couldn't initially remember my post but on thinking and scrolling back, did

Done and dusted 👍

@Cranberrystreet Or … as Harry stated … he wanted to lay it all out there and tell his side of the story in his own words so the press no longer had any power over him or his wife and young dc. And this has led to him being able to challenge the reprehensible and potentially illegal behaviour of the tabloids in court.

Are you saying that now Harry has taken on the press over their allegedly illegal behaviour, he and his wife will no longer receive negative in the press?. The tabloids seem to have even more power over him as he and his wife are more famous for their dirty linen washing, than they would ever have been if they'd quietly gone about some charity work (as they said they would). If harry believes this then he is delusional.

Nobody but you had an issue with Harry saying it.

I don't think Harry has said he was 'never happy'. The point is the issues he now talks about with the institution, the press and how it affects family, he has always had, but they got worse when he married and got older. Often people do this when they get a partner and family of their own because they have something and someone else to go to. People put up with a lot of happiness sometimes because they simply don't want to be alone.

No, what I said was

Harry couldn’t wait to jump in when they were asked about disagreements with “oh yes” said very dramatically

i did not say I had a problem

i spoke about the speed of his answer and the tone.

People on this thread need to stand in line and get back on track, or they'll get a detention!

Yes Miss Polka! 😄

Eye, eye 🙋‍♀️, captain polka 🤣

You also said this following the comment. I think it's clear you didn't think much of him saying it and yet William has too.

No I am not saying that at all. I’m saying he wanted to be open so the press could no longer dig up any supposed revelations about his past and spin them negatively (eg official visit to drug rehabilitation centre).

And I think Meghan’s request to the press that she made at the time of the coronation just about sums up the couple’s position: .

“The Duchess has asked the tabloid press to “ stop the exhausting circus that they alone are creating”

Cranberrystreet · Yesterday 21:47
And I think Meghan’s request to the press that she made at the time of the coronation just about sums up the couple’s position: .

“The Duchess has asked the tabloid press to “ stop the exhausting circus that they alone are creating”

Did she really say that!?
But she courts Press attention. Maybe only if it is favourable and on her own terms.

Writing in his 2020 book ‘Battle of Brothers’, Mr Lacey said: “Harry has freely confessed to his own blazing temper from time to time

The way that it’s written indicates someone else has a ‘blazing temper’ as well. Am I right?

Did she really say that!?
But she courts Press attention. Maybe only if it is favourable and on her own terms.

Well it should be that she can decide what she wants to give the press. And she doesn’t want tabloid press attention. Fair enough too. The tabloids have, after all, published racist articles about her and her mother.

The idea that a woman can break up a strong happy bond between brothers is so old it’s fossilised. An old old stereotype that needs to be retired.

I think partners/spouses do have influence though don't you? IN Harry's case he has changed a lot, like giving up blood sports (selling the guns Philip gave him), becoming aware of the unconscious bias that meant he wore the Nazi uniform and called his colleague in the army racist names. Thise are positive changes, but if her influence can change his views so much on those things then why not others?

Yes she did say that. It was reported on the BBC news at the time. This is the full story:

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/in-the-news/meghan-markle-response-to-why-she-isnt-attending-coronation/

Its interesting that when you search on Google for “Meghan, circus, exhausted” it’s mainly USA and Australia sources at the top of the source list and an article by the delightful Dan Wootten (sp?) at the bottom. Because of course the British tabloids have little interest in reporting a calm and reasonable statement from Meghan. They would rather make stuff up!

Just a small example of how we in the UK are being fed a certain narrative about Harry and Meghan and how we can’t rely on unbiased or measured reporting about them within the UK. I am surprised how many people on this thread refuse to see it!

Yes I think we are influenced by live events in general as we grow up aren’t we?

Harry was 20 when he offensively wore the Nazi uniform. And he was brought up in an aristocratic non politically correct bordering racist milieu where it was socially acceptable (although racism never is) to give your mates at Sandhurst a racist nickname. And when he matured and began to mix with people other than Hooray Henrys with red trousers, he duly modified his views. Thankfully!

And when he met Meghan, he said he was educated about racism further. I think we all would be if we married someone of another culture or race.

But the way the tabloids describe it, Meghan is some sort of malevolent she-devil hypnotising Harry with nightly incantations. It’s utter rubbish!

Cranberrystreet · Yesterday 21:47
And I think Meghan’s request to the press that she made at the time of the coronation just about sums up the couple’s position.

“The Duchess has asked the tabloid press to “ stop the exhausting circus that they alone are creating”

This is so disingenuous. The circus was created by their own actions. Oprah, Netflix, spare, endless interviews, near catastrophic car chases. All started by Meghan's South African pity party. Tone deaf. Standing in her designer clothes, wealthy beyond dreams in a poverty stricken African village. The couple court publicity and have done so from the get go.

Megan's beef is because the publicity is not under their control. Oprah and Netflix...look at our victimhood at the hands the evil BRF equated to: rich folk sitting in a mansion, whining, while people struggled to heat their homes. Near catastrophic car chase attracted ridicule. Spare was unbelievably badly written and cringeworthy in the extreme. It seems every wrong foot they can place in front of themselves, they do. Maybe with the expensive PR agency behind them now they can get their brand (whatever it actually is) back on track....although Spotify is looking increasingly sideways at them 🤣