He has gone after Camilla....

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The Sun have got hold of a copy of the book that was accidently put on sale in Spain. They are clearly skimming it as fast as possible with a translator. They are reporting that W&H begged KC not to marry C, and that he thought she was leaking stories to the press.

Bloody hell.

The Diana worship after all this time is mind blowing.

what must the Kennedy’s be thinking - we gave this shitshow ‘a ripple of hope’

It's very strange that Harry has said both William and his father were taken in by the Press's view of Megan. They actually knew and experienced her behaviour and yet he thinks they were influenced by the Daily Mail, along, no doubt, with Kate, most of Megan's family, many of the staff at Kensington Palace who she treated so badly, members of the Press who have come forward to support the reports of her mistreatment of the staff and dispute her comments based on what they themselves saw and experienced, and millions of people around the world.
Does it never occur to him that these people might just be right.

I don't need to get a grip, but thanks for the offer. I hold him in contempt for being a crap and spineless husband, father, son, and even brother. My opinion does not stop you from tugging your forelock, so tug away!

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Diana took them on holiday with her lover.

I agree with MrsMaxDeWinter

It may be 40 years ago but the consequences are being played out now in Harry.

Everyone knows Diana was no saint. But no one can deny that a huge injustice was done to her at a very young age by the institution of the monarchy.

And when she spoke up she had the establishment and friends of Charles briefing against her, calling her insane and a “loose canon”. I mean, how Victorian can you get?

Even then it wasn’t Charles’s affair with Camilla that people found objectionable as much as the fact the public had been duped!

And that Diana was expected to act out a lie in public and play happy families and basically put up and shut up. And expect her dc to do the same.

Harry probably learned then that it was healthier to speak out and damn the consequences. I am not saying he is wise to burn his boats as he has done, but I can understand his extreme frustration being up against the establishment who all close ranks.

So?

@LuluBlakey1 You have no idea how many times they actually met Meghan.

Yes. The belittling of his time in the military was very ugly and if there’s anything good to come out of him mentioning it, it will be that the people who posted here saying they had a mate who served with him ……blah bloody blah will now know their mates wouldn’t recognize the truth if it bit them on the backside.

Totally agree with @MrsMaxDeWinter
I think that Charles was a terrible husband and a rubbish father.
A man who allowed his two traumatised boys to walk behind the coffin of their mother.
He is not fit to be king

Totally agree with you

Absolutely - Harry is probably the only honest one in that sea of dysfunction.
All Harry has done is expose how bloody pointless the BRF is.

Me too and outside of the carefully curated and policed Kensington Palace PR machine a lot of the world does to. As Tina Brown a royalist has intoned there are secrets which if revealed would destroy the British Royal Family. That event horizon draws ever near.

Diana was no saint (don’t blame her) & she had an arranged marriage. Wasn’t for her or for Charles. Her family were desperate for one of their girls to marry into the RF. It was for them to protect her.

I’m sick of hearing how the RF betrayed Diana. She told her sisters that she didn’t want to go through with it. They told her it was too late as her face was on the tea towels.

I’ve had an arranged marriage. Most of my family have. Your own family is meant to look after you & protect your interest & make sure that you are marrying the right person.

The RF let Charles down but they sure as hell didn’t let down Diana. That’s on her family not the RF.

I should have added that Charles should not have carried on seeing Camilla once he married. That should have stopped. But the rest is on her family.

@vera99 you keep making lots of unfounded quotes Bd allegations with zero proof just lots of hear say
The RF won't come crushing down just because you want it to or on hear say and gossip

@MrsMaxDeWinter and you know them personally do you ?
Bet your having a go at all the M& H people saying you don't know them but works both ways
Harry is a windsor as well like it or not

Does that mean he's pointless as well?

‘I just wonder if saying the number out loud makes him more of a target, and could he in a moment of recklessness thought ‘they will have to give me security now’
He has been so focused on getting security, he might have thought this was a way to get it’

I’ve obviously not read the book & his exact words, but I do query the sense of deliberately referring to the Taliban & an explicit number of people he has killed whilst in active duty.

Whatever his original intent - searing honesty? IPP status review? - his words may be as a red rag to a bull, in effect putting an even higher premium on his head.

I'm wondering about all the racism allegations, and if the book provides some evidence and names the alleged racist or racists?.

As a member of the RF, yes, he is pointless. You surely just need the monarch to do constitutional duties. Why do you need an entire family of hangers on, spares, their spouses, kids etc. Just focus on the heirs and let everyone else live their lives.

So as a member of the RF he is as pointless as all of them, but as a whistleblower who is opening up the whole pointless can of worms, he is the MVP of the whole lot.

@healthadvice123

Harry is a Windsor yes. But one who has shown the ability to self reflect, and think about his circumstances in a way that none of them have. Loved the latest Anderson Cooper clip where he admitted that not only is the British press bigoted, even HE was bigoted. I like Harry because he is willing to turn the lens on himself.

The others just seem desperate to shore up their positions, announcing new titles the minute the Queen dies, playing dress up and toy soldiers while not allowing Harry who actually served to wear a uniform. It's an absurd farce, really.

I don't think Harry has shown the ability to self reflect. At all.
He's shown an ability to blame others.
If having a royal family is pointless, it's up to the people of the UK to make that decision about how the Head of State should be selected. Not a prince living in California.

As an early poster said, is the fact that the staff, her own family, colleagues and in laws have all had unpleasant experiences with her not enough for rational adults to admit there might be something in these claims? By all accounts she is deeply unpleasant, yet there’s some strange gaslighting going on by a group of MM supporters who are adamant she’s a saint. It’s bizarre.

And yet he and his wife wanted to be part of it ( the titles, jewels, pomp, money, castles etc) ……