Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

@OutwiththeOutCrowd

But Meghan had a 'prince who could be king' vacancy in her heart and Harry has been trying to contort himself into fitting that vacancy since they met.

”difficult mixed race woman corrupts fair white prince”. Lovely. Never mind of course that it was he who pursued her from the get go.

There are plenty of children in the UK who have serious and ongoing abuse and neglect, including not having enough to eat and both social services and schools do not have the funding or resources to help.

Frankly I can't get worked up about a single incident that there is no evidence happened and where the alleged adult victim now lives on the other side of the world as the person who allegedly harmed them.

I wonder if Kate watched from the sidelines before snarling in Peggy Mitchell style GET OUTTA MY PALACE !

We, the 99.99%, are not rude and abrasive as a norm. So nothing to do with that.

I don't care about the individuals here.
I do care that there is so much minimisation of violence on this thread.

An adult brother should not be being violent to their sibling.
Someone can have been in the Army, a security guard, or the police and still be physically abused by a family member.
No one deserves to be physically attacked.

If you have adults in your family physically attacking other family members, that is not okay. The first step is to stop minimising it and recognise that simple fact.

This is not someone coming forward to the police or social services, it's an accusation being made in a profit making and career enhancing enterprise

Exactly.

In terms of Meghan being rude and abrasive, maybe she was. But we also know she challenged racism and sexism of Harry's friends. I am sure they thought she was rude and abrasive as a result.

'Never mind of course that it was he who pursued her from the get go.'

Are you suggesting Meghan had no agency in their relationship?

I think this is an interesting (though of course speculative) possibility

He wouldn't be releasing excerpts verbatim, rather keeping them as a form of notes. Possibly with selected, trusted people hearing fuller forms.

Broken necklace in this passage - which he can be sure, now it's been highlighted pre-release - is a reminder to RF that he (perhaps) has more evidence.

If true, the version of events could hypothetically be that W accused Harry of wearing a wire, touches suspicious necklace, H twists away, necklace breaks and he trips over dog bowl

And the real shame for Harry is not what an alternative scenario might be, but rather that there is so little trust in 'his' unsupported 'truth'

IMO using the deeply, deeply misogynistic c-word undermines your argument.

@Mamma367 Mamma367 Harold doesn't say Willy punched him. He says Willy threw him to the floor.

I'm still trying to make this horrifying smackdown make sense based on face value what's written. It's hard to throw someone to the floor on the first go. That's because if human beings are being pushed, they instinctively move their feet to stay upright. And they lean their weight towards the aggressor to create a counterbalance. Humans are not like weeble toys. They don't just stand still and allow themselves to be pushed over. Especially if the aggressor has given them fair warning of what's about to happen by 'advancing on' them.

The only way I can think it could have happened as advertised is if Willy had employed a move common in ju-jitsu whereby he hooked his leg around Harold's lower leg from the back and snapped backwards. This would cause Harold to fall backwards with his Legs sliding forward and out from under him. This would work best if Willy had the advantage of surprise so perhaps he could have distracted Harold in some way beforehand, maybe by waggling a shiny toy?

Harold would then end up on the floor directly under Willy, so Willy would also have had to make sure that he was standing over the dog bowl before performing his ju jitsu move. I should add that the sliding motion would probably retard Harold's fall making it more challenging to break the dog bowl. Maybe Willy smashed it beforehand and then lightly glued it back together to cause maximum distress?

What style was the necklace btw? Was it one of those hippy dippy Cali hemp affairs favoured by billionaire tech bros? Or was it a Russian diamond of the sort that Meg wanted to wear for her wedding and then had a tantrum because she was told no and allegedly slapped a servant? Did a bowl also break then? Does Willy know ju-jitsu?

I think we should be told.

Did they respond to the OW interview? Oh yes they did and the response gets thrown back at them on MN all the time. Did they respond to the Lady Hussey story? Oops yes they did. Its absolute nonsense that they never respond.

Yes they did claim it. Repeatedly.

This thread is cracking me up so much.

It’s awful their relationship has disintegrated. They used to look so close. I’m sad for them about that.

But the broken necklace and the dog bowl 😂 it just really tickles me. Utterly ridiculous

You can feel sorry for self-pitying whingers the first couple of times but after that they're just annoying - family member even more so.
You're not speaking for everyone here .

. Only him with therapy. Which he refused to take seriously.
You think that ,you don't know .

he's just sad, resentful and second-rate in his own mind.
We're all different but that makes me feel sorry for him .

Oh stop it. Breaking a necklace and ending up sat in the dog's bowl is a scuffle, not violence.

The Sussex Squad will of course love this. It is despicable that Harold has breached Willy's privacy like this with his one sided allegations.

@TrainsDrainsAndAutomobiles

Exactly. The focus should be on the real and hugely challenging issues ordinary people are facing, not this over privileged wankfest.

The country is controlled by the very people who caused a fair amount of the shit with their ideologically driven austerity agenda, then followed by Brexit to enrich the richest further. The first step in the rebuild can’t occur for another two years and will then take decades to achieve. Nothing can begin until the current lot are removed. A bit of light entertainment in the meantime is neither here nor there.

Equally ludicrous given that the Duchess of Kent, at the time a senior working royal, received in-patient care for some time after suffering from depression after the stillbirth of her youngest child.

So presumably the Guardian has been handed an advance copy of the book?
I was hoping they'd made this up, but if not and Harry really agreed for this to be published he's lost his mind

And aren't Netflix likely to object to the "dirt" they paid for being published by someone else?

What?
So people who aren’t white and upper class automatically come across as rude and abrasive to you?
Im confused

Oh why don't you call social services then if you're so bothered. You know where they both live.

Wouldn't be surprised.

This is not someone coming forward to the police or social services, it's an accusation being made in a profit making and career enhancing enterprise. If you are such an expert in domestic abuse how can you not understand the difference in context here?

100% this

What he's doing is actually undermining other victims. If he wanted to support victims the thing to do would be to pursue this through the proper channels and use his status to ensure it is followed up properly and not publish without any evidence in a tell-all book for money.

How odd that Harry was able to call his therapist straight after a tussle with William over the dog food bowl but his suicidal wife wasn't allowed to see one at all. That's a pretty inconsistent detail.