Page 26 | Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

Rinoachicken · 2023-01-05T00:10:31+00:00

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

Falalalalalalaetc · 05/01/2023 09:20

I have to say I'm really beginning to appreciate the Middleton family.

I don't really seek out royal news, but I do browse MN and read trending threads as well as read the papers.

The thing I appreciate about the Middletons is that I have absolutely no clue what their relationship with each other is, who did what to whom and when. No tedious tell-all Jeremy Kyle style tv dramas or interviews or books. I suspect this means their family dynamic is quite healthy and respectful but I don't know and that seems much healthier for them, for me and for society.

FishnetsNightdressCrisis · 05/01/2023 09:20

I hope he has a good therapist

Judging by his behaviour, the therapy doesn't seem to be doing much good so I doubt it very much

MarshaMelrose · 05/01/2023 09:20

Theheartmustpausetobreathe · 05/01/2023 09:08

RhymeHasAReason · Today 08:30

HotChoxs · Today 08:25

It really is. Throw in the fact that the alleged victim is a wealthy Prince who can jet off to live in a US mansion free of charge with police escort in tow and it's ludicrous.

It’s people’s thought process that it shows. To be a victim, you have to be poor or small built for example. It’s like when people think rich people can’t suffer from depression.

Good point Rhymehasreason.IMO Harry hasn't coped well with loosing his mother and feeling (and being) second best .

But it's him constantly bringing up being the spare, even in this argument. He's in his 30s. Can you imagine how trying this has been for all those round him listening to him whining on how he's second best for 20 years?

Theheartmustpausetobreathe · 05/01/2023 09:20

And it is not normal for 40 year old brothers to physically fight - maybe as teenagers.

Is that anecdotal or based on something more scientific? Perfectly normal in my family and that of my friends .

Tulipomania · 05/01/2023 09:20

What is so unfair is that Harry & Meghan know that the palace will not respond - nor should they - so they can spin events pretty much however they want.

RhymeHasAReason · 05/01/2023 09:21

GrinAndVomit · 05/01/2023 09:16

It’s really unhelpful.

Equating two princes having a scuff where one has a necklace snapped with victims of domestic violence who have been emotionally manipulated and controlled by their abuser and believe they have no means of escape or worse, no reason to escape when they are at real risk of life or limb, is really conversation shutting down of the barrel scraping variety.

That’s coming from someone who worked with victims of domestic violence before having children.

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Again, it’s not. No violence should be minimised and laughed at how it has been on here. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a one off attack or years of abuse, whether the person is rich or poor or anything else.

And you’re not the only one that works with victims so 🤷🏻‍♀️

theworldhas · 05/01/2023 09:21

@LillianGish
Watching the Netflix documentary my overwhelming feeling was that his development seems to have stalled at the age of 12

amazing psychological insights into someone you know nothing about.

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/01/2023 09:21

Yet he never mentions Andrew, weird eh

I think it's obvious why. Epstein is a totally different think in US - Prince Andrew was just one of his associates. Lots of other allegations flying round. No-one knows if one or more of those will ever explode. They won't want to be anywhere near any of that if it happened.

Cariadz · 05/01/2023 09:22

landing in a bowl of butchers choice

Dear God. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Willyoujustbequiet · 05/01/2023 09:22

whymewhynow · 05/01/2023 09:08

Apologies if this point has already been made but why, if Harry had a therapist on hand whom he phone after being shoved by his brother, was it impossible for Meghan to get any psychiatric help when she was feeling suicidal? I don't understand why Harry was able to access therapy but she couldn't/wasn't allowed to.

Because his/their story is full of holes.

Cant believe a word they say.

Backfired spectacularly. Feel sorry for William and Kate who are the real victims in this mess.

CameltoeParkerBowles · 05/01/2023 09:22

wegoagainplease · 05/01/2023 00:34

I'm just hearing Harold from Steptoe and Son

Yes! "AAArrrooooollld? AAARROLD!! Do you think you could make a little sandwich?"

Charlize43 · 05/01/2023 09:22

Therealroyaldogbowl · 05/01/2023 09:09

So many contradictions from H&M between their Netflix whingefest and now this book. I feel sorry for Harry as he had been completely manipulated and love bombed into thinking black is white. No wonder after the Queen’s funeral and the obvious change in mood in the UK towards them that he ran back to try and change the book content. On some level he knows this is wrong and peddling your family dirty laundry he knows would’ve upset the Queen. What a terrible betrayal of his family relationships on any level. Sadly Harry is mixed up with a massive narcissist and for anyone who knows what it’s like to have one pervade a family with a sibling it is immensely frustrating. Nothing makes them see sense until they hit rock bottom. Harry has a way to go yet.

What most people forget when defending H in all of this is that the bulk of Diana’s estate was left to Harry as she knew William was provided for. Had he used that money (it was millions) wisely since he inherited it he could’ve been sitting on a fortune. Instead he’s funded an unaffordable lifestyle of £2500 dresses and a mansion full of staff none of which is sustainable long-term for a 7th-on-the-call-sheet actress and a 35yo old with no job. He was offered the opportunity to stay in the fold and retain his security etc but Meghan had by this time realised the RF don’t have huge personal wealth, weren’t the Trumps and she wasn’t allowed to keep any of the free stuff but still had to turn up and write positive messages on bananas for sex workers for no pay.

When Meghan claimed she’d never been to Buckingham Palace an (ex) friend of hers pretty hacked off at her treatment of Husband No1 sold a picture to the UK press of Meghan sat outside… Buckingham Palace. Apparently the friend was fed up of the lies Meghan was parroting as if they were truths. The very fact she had virtually no family at the wedding and very few actual friends (many of the celebrity wedding guests admitted they’d never met her including I think Oprah) should have raised massive red flags to all.

The only way this stops is if we stop giving it airtime in the UK. Don’t buy the book, don’t be clickbait, don’t give Netflix any more viewers.

^This

I remember years ago reading a book about how swindlers & cons operate and how easy it is to miss the bigger picture and get lost in the detail.

The bigger picture is about $$$$$$$$ here, and I do feel sorry for H as I fear that once she's amassed enough, she'll be taking him and he'll find himself a broken man with nothing.

While everyone pores over the shit show that the Royal Family has become, M's in the background, calmly counting those $$$$$$$$$s.

kirinm · 05/01/2023 09:22

Blossomtoes · 05/01/2023 01:51

How does no denial denote guilt? The palace will continue to keep schtum.

I bet they don't.

Begoniasforever · 05/01/2023 09:22

We need to remember harry is selling this. He’s doing this for cold hard cash.

I find it curious that it’s now confirmed William finds Meghan rude and abrasive in Real life, so it makes me wonder if the bullying rumours were true,

as for a spat. Meh. I don’t believe harry the forces sweetheart, who did a tour of Afghan etc was terrified of William.

the thing is this is all petty shit. Most families at some point have fallen out, even had spats. Selling the story for money and trying to ruin your family though is heinous.

MarshaMelrose · 05/01/2023 09:23

So you think that it is true that a metal dog bowls smashed after Harry fell on it?
Pictures of their kitchen at the time have been leaked. The dog bowls were metal.

Maybe they were the replacement bowls? Harry has no money so he wouldn't any future breakages, would he?

Snowmoab · 05/01/2023 09:23

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/01/2023 09:21

Yet he never mentions Andrew, weird eh

I think it's obvious why. Epstein is a totally different think in US - Prince Andrew was just one of his associates. Lots of other allegations flying round. No-one knows if one or more of those will ever explode. They won't want to be anywhere near any of that if it happened.

True, there's a very big reason why which isn't a particularly well kept secret.

bloodyplanes · 05/01/2023 09:23

Museya15 · 05/01/2023 08:45

I remember reading over the years staff found Harry a wretched spoilt boy who behaved like a brat, apparently he made Charles life hell when he was growing up. Don't know whether it's true but I know I read it on more than one occasion. I feel sorry for Harry, he is very naive.

I have been commenting on on H&M threads since this all started to leak out! I have relatives who work for the RF, they all said exactly this! Harry has always been a spoilt brat with a massive chip on his shoulder but he had the palace PR machine to cover up for him! When they stopped covering up because of his wife's behaviour then his true nature started to leak out! Obviously i was shouted down by all the MM fans, called a racist blah blah blah! "Harolds" real issue with the palace/royals is that they saw straight through Megan and refused to carry on covering up her behaviour after she kept bullying staff and the royals refused to intervene and force them to do it!

Mentalpiece · 05/01/2023 09:24

Those here saying about how terrible it is for two grown men to be fighting have clearly never been past a working men's club at closing time.
Go on Bert av im!

kirinm · 05/01/2023 09:24

Theheartmustpausetobreathe · 05/01/2023 09:20

And it is not normal for 40 year old brothers to physically fight - maybe as teenagers.

Is that anecdotal or based on something more scientific? Perfectly normal in my family and that of my friends .

You need to have a word with your family if they're having physical fights. Unless they're fucking 10.

Mooshamoo · 05/01/2023 09:24

Meghan is rude, difficult and abrasive

Inkpotlover · 05/01/2023 09:25

Boulshired · 05/01/2023 00:26

Netflix must be wanting their money back, that’s the stuff they thought they were paying for.

Netflix must be bloody furious! He's kept back the most salacious stuff for the book.

xogossipgirlxo · 05/01/2023 09:25

Mamma367 · 05/01/2023 09:09

So much minimising on this thread. William's Harry's big brother - Harry probably looked up to him growing up. I think you can be an adult, 6', army trained and still feel fear from family when they are angry and not feel you able to fight back every time. You don't have to be physically weak to be assaulted.

I can't see why Harry would lie about something like this. If it really was the case that Harry can say anything and then RF can't reply, then you could make up anything to make yourself sound better or the story more colourful. The details don't sound fake - the details sound mundane and real to me.

My opinion of William is much poorer now. The excerpt doesn't sound like a verbal argument escalated into a physical one. Harry said to William that he wasn't helping and William took offense to that and punched him. That's pretty awful.

I'm not staying Harry is right to give away private details like this either, but I can understand why he wants to get his side of the story out there.

I have to agree. The more I watch it, the more I understand why HAM left the UK.

MrsMcisaCt · 05/01/2023 09:25

How do you break a dog bowl with your back?? I know that's not the most important thing about this story btw.

Blip · 05/01/2023 09:26

So relieved I have now heard Harry's truth.

WhoppingBigBackside · 05/01/2023 09:26

Not RTFT & not read the link in the OP yet, but

If you knew that if you accused someone of doing something there was a strong likelihood that they would make no comment whatsoever, and that there were no witnesses, might you be inclined to embellish the details?