Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

He broke his necklace and fell on a dog bowl - it makes them sound like two little boys scrapping. Watching the Netflix documentary my overwhelming feeling was that his development seems to have stalled at the age of 12 - when his mum died. This anecdote confirms that feeling.

Where does it say he punched him?

No wonder your opinion of William is poor when you’re just making things up about him

Interestingly, it turns out that this was not a new story - it was covered by Robert Lacey in his book about William and Harry, and picked up and published elsewhere in 2021 - in People Magazine, for example.

In that version however, Harry was not calm - he angrily refused to talk to William over the phone about the accounts that Meghan was bullying their shared staff., So feelings were high on both sides from the outset (unsurprisingly).

"Lacey's book describes an angry confrontation between the princes – first over the phone and then in person when William asked Harry about the bullying claims.

When Harry flared up in furious defense of his wife, the elder brother persisted," reads an excerpt. "Harry shut off his phone angrily, so William went to speak to him personally. The prince was horrified by what he had just been told about Meghan's alleged behavior, and he wanted to hear what Harry had to say. The showdown between the brothers was fierce and bitter."

people.com/royals/prince-william-prince-harry-had-fierce-bitter-argument-meghan-markle-bullying-claims/

@vera99
Whatever your "side" following the death of the late Queen we are witnessing the Fall of the House of Windor. Charles and William should renouce the Crown and retire to a life of privileged obscurity for their own mental health as much as anything.

it’s surely hard for even the most ardent of monarchists to deny what a massively dysfunctional family they are. Inherited monarchy only worked in bygone eras where they could basically do as they pleased and only their good deeds would be commented upon, as their power was too great for anyone to dare criticism.

Instead we know that at least a couple of the leading male royals were close to serial paedophiles. The current king drove his ex wife to mental breakdown, with mi6 possibly involved in her death. The current king has also been found to have been pressuring governemnt into changing laws. The next in line is violent and cheated on his wife. Say what you want Harry’s personal motivations (be it the well-being of his family, wealth, or to escape personal trauma etc) but there is no universe in which staying put in the middle of that mess is the right choice!

Never, in human history, has anyone demanded privacy quite so publicly. It's all about money now anyway. To make money these days as a media personality, rather than an artist or a specialist (ie someone with talent), you need to draw a crowd, and how do you draw a crowd? You start a fight. He and his wife are maximising their earning potential by mud slinging at people who can't answer back, and he then has the brass neck to say he wants his father and brother back! If he's invited to the coronation I bet they'll come, despite claiming the royals are nasty, racist, abusive bigots. They will just see is as an opportunity to play the victim again on a few more TV interviews afterwards.

@Mamma367

So you think that it is true that a metal dog bowls smashed after Harry fell on it?

Pictures of their kitchen at the time have been leaked. The dog bowls were metal.

Also, he never said that William punched him.

I also wonder if William calling Meghan difficult, abrasive and rude, isn't buying into misogyny...we have often heard people describe confident women as such.

It's not misogyny if it's true that she used those "confident" attributes to bully her staff.
I've know lots of confident women in my working life and I've never heard them described as abrasive and rude. I've heard them described as bossy which is a misogynistic term never used about men. But rudeness and abrasiveness are in no way synonymous with confident.

All this waiting for Harry to tell us Willy broke his necklace. Hilarious.
What a chump.

It’s really unhelpful.

Equating two princes having a scuff where one has a necklace snapped with victims of domestic violence who have been emotionally manipulated and controlled by their abuser and believe they have no means of escape or worse, no reason to escape when they are at real risk of life or limb, is really conversation shutting down of the barrel scraping variety.

That’s coming from someone who worked with victims of domestic violence before having children.

Well this leak has worked wonders for book sales. How very fortunate for Harry

I only hope that throwing his brother under the bus like he has is worth the $$$.

'We can't speak out about male violence if we think it can be funny sometimes.'

He said he broke his necklace and he ended up sat in the dogs bowl, it is funny,

This isn't male violence. He grabbed his collar, Harold slipped. No fists were used.

Harold should be ashamed of himself. Honestly how low can he go.

I have said on here before, but my DH knows PW fairly well due to some shared hobbies/interests. I find it quite odd reading that he’s not nice/looks angry etc, I can honestly say he’s really very nice, has always wanted to fit in, definitely not stuffy as implied. Can I imagine a fight between him and PH was as described? Well, it’s a bit over dramatic with the ‘so so fast’ etc but yes, of course I can imagine a tussle like that between two angry brothers. They were obviously both very upset. To as not to drip feed, DH also knows Harry, albeit less well. He has only ever spoken well of him. It’s such a shame that they have fallen out. I think the damage has been done and personally the relationship is irreparable. A very sad set of circumstances and such a shame that they couldn’t all get along. I’m sure the children would have loved having their cousins to play with and grow up alongside.

In that version however, Harry was not calm - he angrily refused to talk to William over the phone about the accounts that Meghan was bullying their shared staff., So feelings were high on both sides from the outset (unsurprisingly).

Now that I can believe. I think he's latched onto that story and manipulated it to make himself look like a victim. Knowing Prince William will not lower himself to respond.

Do you think he’s referring him as Willy to make people think of ‘penis’ 😂

This thread is so predictable. If it was Harry that had gone for William it would've made the papers. And it is not normal for 40 year old brothers to physically fight - maybe as teenagers.

I can't imagine them ever reconciling now.

They are both dicks.

The Gallagher brothers Mk II; only difference being Liam and Noel earned their wealth and privilege.

My sisters were horrible to me and ganged up on me when I was a child. I expect I was horrible back but needless to say I don't remember any of that. Grin But even now if the two of them, together, take even the smallest amount of piss out of me, I am instantly 5 years old again

Another good point.
I'm team Harry ,shoot me now .But I grew up with huge sibling rivalries raging in the family .It's not a crime to feel insecure ,to lash out ,to be naive ,to rage and want your side of the story (and yes ,it's only one side )heard .
I hope he has a good therapist .

I fully believe Meghan bullied staff. Of course that will make William, who knew those staff for a long time, angry

Did Harry kill people in armed combat? I thought he was never on the frontline at all and never in active combat

I don't know why Harold is so upset about being the spare.
He should be delighted, he gets all the privilege of being a royal but with half of the stress of being trained up to be king.
It worked for Margaret.
This thread has been comedy gold. The memes and some of the comments have had me crying with laughter.
Harry wouldn't know the truth if it landed besides him in the aforementioned dog bowl.
I bet there were some teed off corgis that day, when they found that not only was a royal arse being washed in their bowl, but the said royal arse had managed to break it too.
Traumatic!

I feel like Meghan really is a nasty piece of work.

William and Harry used to be so close, we all remember that.

Meghan totally ruined the brothers relationship. She is a bully. Harry is a wimp. She has all the control. Harry will not hear a word said against her, and he he will cut off his own family to please her.

I've seen women like her before. I have a male friend. He used to socialise with our group all the time. He now lives with his new girlfriend. She never lets him out. He is not allowed to do anything. He is literally not allowed to to anything.

Yes it is the women's fault in one way, but also why do men let women treat them like that. I think a lot of men like being bossed around by women.

hazza’s broke and broken - just like the dog’s bowl

Ah, interesting that this is not a new story.

Nevertheless, what a stupid story! Has Harry zero sense of humour? Anyone reading back about necklaces and dog bowls would immediately picture the scene and snigger. This is not a terrible knife incident, but pushing and shoving and landing in a bowl of Butcher’s Choice.

Clearly got BWE (Big Willy Energy)

I feel like Meghan really is a nasty piece of work.

His relationship is his downfall