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Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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Rinoachicken · 05/01/2023 00:10

www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

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GlorianaCervixia · 05/01/2023 08:52

I'm picturing the fight as being just like Colin Firth and Hugh Grant in Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason. Only instead of a fountain, it's a dog bowl.

CousinKrispy · 05/01/2023 08:53

I adopted a cat named Harry and always address him as Harold because it suits him better, is that relevant?

I vote for @TheCockatoosCrest to ghost-write the next book, that was banging ;-)

Theheartmustpausetobreathe · 05/01/2023 08:53

I'm glad that Harry has made the accusation .Like so many have said - siblings fight .It's good to have William's personality criticised as well as Harry's .It feels more honest ,more even handed .
William comes across as bloodless and blank .I'm sure this is a result of PR trying to present him as flawless .I wonder if his PR is not very good or this is the best they can do given what they have to work with ?
William must have flaws ,good to have them hinted at .

As for Harry wanting his brother back ,I read this as " I want to go back to when we got on " "I want that time back "

SnowlayRoundabout · 05/01/2023 08:53

Treetrim · 05/01/2023 08:33

This makes Prince william look very bad and I would have had more sympathy before this. The fact that he physically attacked him says a lot about how he viewed the relationship

Is it a "fact"? I don't think we know enough about it to make that judgment.

caramac04 · 05/01/2023 08:54

JamMakingWannaBe · 05/01/2023 01:06

This is the reason to buy cheap plastic dog bowls from B&M rather than expensive ceramic ones. They cause much less injury when you fall onto them.

Missing details - did the Winalot stain his trousers?

I want more info on the broken necklace too.

😂😂😂😂😂

Serenster · 05/01/2023 08:54

Blaming Kate and William for his decision to wear the nazi costume (when he had suggested it to them, along with one other, and was the one to actually hire it and wear it) also shows him to be a petulant little brat who cannot accept personal responsibility for anything.

Yes, I await with his interest his account of how Kate and William told him earnestly that his army colleague would love to be referred to as a Pki and that Rghead was a perfectly appropriate term to use to discuss enemy combatants…

(one good thing out of this story though - William is described by Harry as being dressed up for the party as a leopard with a leotard on. At least certain posters will now have to give up on their crusade to convince people that William wore blackface to the party. Because if that was so, Harry absolutely, 100% would have said so in his book! We can be sure of that…🤣🤣)

Batcountry8 · 05/01/2023 08:54

ArcaneWireless · 05/01/2023 01:05

William should go full Naboo on his arse and turn his back on him. Permanently.

And if the other royals have any sense, so should they.

Haha thanks for the Boosh reference, forgot that one!

HollyBobb · 05/01/2023 08:54

Serenster · 05/01/2023 08:43

Can you imagine how cringeworthy it’s going to be hearing Harry narrate this in his terribly posh voice in the audiobook? 🤣

“He threw me to the palace floor, ripping my necklace while calling me a worthless spare. I fell and hurt my back on the dorg bowl.” Read by Harold, The Victim Prince.

BellePeppa · 05/01/2023 08:54

Museya15 · 05/01/2023 08:45

I remember reading over the years staff found Harry a wretched spoilt boy who behaved like a brat, apparently he made Charles life hell when he was growing up. Don't know whether it's true but I know I read it on more than one occasion. I feel sorry for Harry, he is very naive.

I can well believe that but any remaining sympathy I had for Harry has gone now. He’s a nasty little man.

Prescottdanni123 · 05/01/2023 08:55

@PicturesOfDogs

Nah he wouldn't be wearing a recording device. He wouldn't be able to twist William's words/tell an altered version of what happened if there was a recording of it.

milti · 05/01/2023 08:55

Take this Harold !

Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019
JanusTheFirst · 05/01/2023 08:56

So sick of his whining. He needs to look much closer to home for the cause of the family misery.

Chelseagreen · 05/01/2023 08:57

Haven’t read the whole thread yet. A couple of things stand out to me. “Harold”, that really jarred with me. If it was a nickname Harry should have explained that was the case. My guess is that Harry told ghost writer that William called him by his given name, as we know families often do when they’re cross and this wasn’t checked. In the Netflix doc I was struck at how vague Harry was with times and dates. Suddenly he has razor sharp recollection of conversations. Hmm.
Secondly, they showed us how a tallish man has to stoop in Nottingham Cottage so I can’t imagine William was able to get a good swing at Harry to lamp him one. He probably caught his foot and tripped over the dog bowl.

Blip · 05/01/2023 08:57

If this was true, would Harry not have photographed the broken necklace and broken dog bowl and his bruise? So that he could put them in his book later?

ShamedBySiri · 05/01/2023 08:57

TheUndoing · 05/01/2023 08:39

If Harry has a therapist on speed-dial why was it so
hard to source one for Meghan when she was suicidal?

Very good point.

So many inconsistencies...

Newnamefornewyear2023 · 05/01/2023 08:58

potniatheron · 05/01/2023 08:35

The wording doesn't ring true for me at all.

Look we've all got sons, brothers, partners, husbands, fathers, male friends. Most of us have seen how a minor fight between two relatively well brought up men goes.

It's a tussle. It's more like westling. It's slow, awkward and chaotic. Someone pulls someone, someone pushes someone. A punch gets thrown and misses or doesn't quite land. Especially when the two fellows are middle aged and middle class or above. It's not like a fight between two tooled up, boozed up young nutters outside a B League football ground. It's awkward, slow and a bit of a letdown. (Unless one of the combatants has frontline close combat training and would instinctively defend themselves of course, but that doesn't seem to have happened here.)

So that's what a real middle aged middle class 'fight' is like. A slow, awkward, embarrassing tussle. Whereas what's being described in this extract is a scene from a Marvel movie. One assailant, moving 'so, so fast'. The other person doing nothing to defend themselves. The assailant possessed of such superhuman strength that he's able to THROW the other person to the floor in ONE GO (ever tried that? It's surprisingly difficult. Human beings are quite good at staying on their feet when they have to. Especially when they're younger, heavier and fitter than the assailant). Younger person falls with such force that he breaks a dog bowl which tend to be ceramic, shallow, thick sides. He broke it??? Did he fall from 40 feet, is William really that strong? Or was Harry wearing chainmail? Press X to doubt this detail.

The assailant them STORMS out, pausing only, Arnie-like, to deliver the final, chilling last word - although he forgets himself and uses his victim's pet name, weird thing to do after a terrifying smackdown,

Nah, it didn't happen like this.

OMG brilliant 😂😂😂 so true

Jean67 · 05/01/2023 08:59

I don't think Harry had such an issue with being the 'spare' until Meghan came along. He always knew his position in the family. It was very telling that he implied in the Netflix interview that he and Meghan would have made a better king and Queen. If Meghan is a narcissist (and I believe based on personal experience of being a victim of a narcissist that she is) then she would have been infuriated at playing second fiddle and it would be very easy to pull Harry's strings. It's all a very sad mess.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 05/01/2023 08:59

CousinKrispy · 05/01/2023 08:53

I adopted a cat named Harry and always address him as Harold because it suits him better, is that relevant?

I vote for @TheCockatoosCrest to ghost-write the next book, that was banging ;-)

My cat is also called Harry, aka Harold. Usually said in a Steptoe and Son voice.

Rhondaa · 05/01/2023 08:59

He broke his 'necklace' and pushed him into the dog's bowl?!

What a momentous fool Harry is. Just astonishing that he thinks oversharing such personal crap is a good idea. Respect to William, at least we know he hasn't stood meekly on the sidelines throughout the whole circus.

Prescottdanni123 · 05/01/2023 09:00

@Treetrim

So Harry always tell the truth does he? Or were you there as well?

Even if it is the truth, there could quite well be details missing. Besides, brothers fight. William pushed him over. Out of frustration. Or maybe he never intended him to fall. He was just desperate for him to see sense.

Some brothers put each other in intensive care or worse over disagreements.

garlicandsapphires · 05/01/2023 09:00

I wonder if this is the most damaging bit of the book? Why did the Guardian choose this excerpt and not others?

BrokeAsABone · 05/01/2023 09:01

I have sympathy for Harry. I don't think it is EVER acceptable to put your hands on another person in anger, siblings or not. As soon as you do that, you've lost.

And I think Harry showed a lot of restraint in not hitting him when goaded. I don't see the humour or the hilarity in violence. We can't speak out about male violence if we think it can be funny sometimes.

I also wonder if William calling Meghan difficult, abrasive and rude, isn't buying into misogyny...we have often heard people describe confident women as such.

Charlize43 · 05/01/2023 09:01

Everything about this man, from his book title to his pushy wife seems to me like he has an enormous inferiority complex.

I'm sure his brother would tell another story.

slideintomxas · 05/01/2023 09:02

How did Harry get through fighting in an actual war, where real people died due to his / his colleagues’ actions, without having a therapist on hand? None of this makes any sense.
Seems he’s also an accomplished polo player and can balance well on a horse at speed, while whacking a polo ball, but his big bad brother toppled him onto a dog bowl which really hurt. What?!?
I’d be mortified stepping outside if I were him now.

BalloonSlayer · 05/01/2023 09:03

Harry would have lost every fight they had as children, due to being younger and smaller. This could explain why he was afraid. (My sisters were horrible to me and ganged up on me when I was a child. I expect I was horrible back but needless to say I don't remember any of that. Grin But even now if the two of them, together, take even the smallest amount of piss out of me, I am instantly 5 years old again and want to cry).

The only three things I can definitely take out of this (assuming it's true) are:

  • William can get violently angry
  • At least one person who actually knows Meghan Markle doesn't think she is wonderful, albeit a violently angry person
  • Harry does not believe that someone does not think Meghan is wonderful
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