Page 17 | Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

Rinoachicken · 2023-01-05T00:10:31+00:00

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

MarshaMelrose · 05/01/2023 07:35

He should have gone upmarket and got his bowl from Home Bargains. They have some very nice sturdy metal ones with paw prints. No breakages there. Maybe HB could market them as Harry-proof.

GlorianaCervixia · 05/01/2023 07:36

Very odd for Harry to claim that William's view of Meghan as rude, abrasive and difficult was based on media reports when William had known Meghan for several years at that point and it was the same time period when Jason Kauf was passing on staff complaints about Harry and Meghan's behaviour. It makes much more sense that William's view was informed by his own experiences and that of his staff.

I don't think this memoir will do anything for Harry other than create more chaos and family dysfunction for him. I know he's done it for the money but it's a shame he couldn't build an independent life in another way. He seems like a very sad, damaged man.

clyspa · 05/01/2023 07:36

Is interesting to use pet names when there has been a violent attack though

I think claims of minimising violence by comparing it to a man breaking a woman's cheek is inappropriate and some what hysterical as was the insinuation by one poster that William hits or is Physically/mentally violent to Kate

RhymeHasAReason · 05/01/2023 07:36

HotChoxs · 05/01/2023 07:29

That's not what they said for a start

Secondly Harry has been in combat and shot people. People that do that don't have a self protection mechanism that just allows people to knock them down without a serious violent struggle. I can't believe anyone can picture him being knocked over like a defenceless kid who falls on his dog bowl. How gullible can people be.

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So why was the poster commenting on being able to see how Harry would be infuriating if not to justify the violence?

My friend was in a job at the time that meant she’d have been very familiar with self defence and is extremely physically fit. More than the monster who was violent to her. She felt very guilty about not defending herself. But that all goes out the window with violence in relationships as she was told by her therapist, the police that dealt with her case and women’s aid. Also, you can just be taken completely off guard if you don’t believe the person would ever be violent to you.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 05/01/2023 07:36

^RhymeHasAReason
So if someone feels someone else is infuriating and paranoid, it’s okay to be violent to them.^

It seems like Only if you are M&H - it's ok as you probably deserve that snd worse.

mpsw · 05/01/2023 07:36

custardbear · 05/01/2023 07:21

If o had a security firm I'd want the person in charge to have 25+ years full on experience in a range of different things. Harry has been mollycoddled through officer training and seen a bit of action, hardly the experience required for such a business

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Why not?

a) saturated market
b) his military experience isn't terribly relevant
c) tend to be low profile - he doesn't 'fit' the sector
d) significant political risk (including arrest/prosecution - look at things like Sandline)

And I think there would be serious question marks now over his ability to be discreet.

MarshaMelrose · 05/01/2023 07:37

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 05/01/2023 07:34

She is ruining Harry, evil woman, when his rose tinted glasses fall he will eventually see her for the player she is. And good for William, so Harry running to the highest bidder has back fired because no one cares.

I don't think it's fair to blame this on Meghan. Harry is a grown man, ffs, he's responsible for his own actions.

Zonder · 05/01/2023 07:39

I'm surprised at how badly it's written. Willy is a bad boy and I'm an angel and I didn't rise to his attack when he came in so angry, naughty Willy. And I didn't even tell my wife until I had to because I'm such an angel.

Nah.

Coxspurplepippin · 05/01/2023 07:40

So Harry had a therapist in 2019 but didn't know who to turn to when Meghan was suicidal?

RoseAndRose · 05/01/2023 07:41

Trouble is, we don't know if the "violence" is truth or Harry's truth

So posters aren't seeking to excuse actual violence, they're looking at why there might have been a row and why Harry would be seeking to strike back at his brother in this way

Cariadz · 05/01/2023 07:41

Snowmoab · 05/01/2023 06:57

Yet he never mentions Andrew, weird eh.

Maybe I'm from a rough as arse place but 2 brothers fighting doesn't seem that extreme to me.

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My boys once had a punch up as adults and I was reassured by them afterwards that it was a brotherly punch up, that it happens, and not worth any upset.

I still keep the hose pipe handy when we’re having a BBQ though just in case they have to be separated again. And no. They don’t drink so it wasn’t alcohol fueled.

GrinAndVomit · 05/01/2023 07:41

RhymeHasAReason · 05/01/2023 07:36

So why was the poster commenting on being able to see how Harry would be infuriating if not to justify the violence?

My friend was in a job at the time that meant she’d have been very familiar with self defence and is extremely physically fit. More than the monster who was violent to her. She felt very guilty about not defending herself. But that all goes out the window with violence in relationships as she was told by her therapist, the police that dealt with her case and women’s aid. Also, you can just be taken completely off guard if you don’t believe the person would ever be violent to you.

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It’s really unhelpful to make these false equivalencies.

HotChoxs · 05/01/2023 07:42

RhymeHasAReason · 05/01/2023 07:36

So why was the poster commenting on being able to see how Harry would be infuriating if not to justify the violence?

My friend was in a job at the time that meant she’d have been very familiar with self defence and is extremely physically fit. More than the monster who was violent to her. She felt very guilty about not defending herself. But that all goes out the window with violence in relationships as she was told by her therapist, the police that dealt with her case and women’s aid. Also, you can just be taken completely off guard if you don’t believe the person would ever be violent to you.

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Yeah, and you can also make up stories and tell lies to sell a book

Does this look like a one sided fight to you where someone gets knocked down easily?

Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

Chicca1970 · 05/01/2023 07:42

fatsocatso · 05/01/2023 00:50

The last quote from Charles at Prince Philip's funeral is so terribly sad. 'Please boys, don't make my last years a misery'.

Really? Maybe he should have thought about his previous behaviour and reflect on all the ‘misery’ he caused his ‘wife’ and then his sons as a result. The man is an arsehole.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 05/01/2023 07:42

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 05/01/2023 07:34

She is ruining Harry, evil woman, when his rose tinted glasses fall he will eventually see her for the player she is. And good for William, so Harry running to the highest bidder has back fired because no one cares.

Honestly I think Meghan could write a book of jokes with some of the quotes and accusations on MN

Redglitter · 05/01/2023 07:43

It would be interesting to hear Williams version of events. I dont believe for a minute Harry couldn't look after himself. Unfortunately Harry knows he can pretty much say anything about his family & they wont retaliate. Its almost like he's trying to see what it'll take for them to speak out

H&M didn't want to be working Royals they were allowed to leave & live overseas. They should be living a fantastic life together as a family. They have more money (even without Netflix) than the rest of us could dream of yet instead of living happily & still having a good if somewhat distant relationship with his family. Instead of that they're burning bridges at an alarming rate

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/01/2023 07:44

Coxspurplepippin · 05/01/2023 07:40

So Harry had a therapist in 2019 but didn't know who to turn to when Meghan was suicidal?

That needs further explanation, doesn't it?

Harry knew how to find MH support - but left his wife floundering round HR.

Yeah, right. Either one/both of the couple is lying, or he's really a shit to her

HilaryThorpe · 05/01/2023 07:44

Actually Harold is quite interesting as a nickname because William and Harold had a bit of a spat over the throne in 1066. 😮

Maireas · 05/01/2023 07:45

Squabbledee · 05/01/2023 01:01

There's more drama than Eastender's

"Get aht of my Wren designed grace and favour property!"

RhymeHasAReason · 05/01/2023 07:46

GrinAndVomit · 05/01/2023 07:41

It’s really unhelpful to make these false equivalencies.

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No it not. It’s highlighting the victim blaming mentality, the minimising and the reasons that people that seemingly should defend themselves don’t. All things that victims do have to deal with.

If you doubt what Harry has said, say that, no one was there and we can’t know what happened. But the minimising of violence in general, the piss taking and victim blaming thought process on the thread is disturbing.

theworldhas · 05/01/2023 07:46

@Rachie1973
Stop press. Siblings have a fight.

Sounds like GBH to me. Perhaps violence is ok when the victim is male?

SnowlayRoundabout · 05/01/2023 07:46

What does he mean when he says he "accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare"? What is his obsession with being a "spare"? It's a simple fact of life that he was born second and was therefore second in line to the throne, it wasn't William's fault and he couldn't change it. It would also not be unnatural for William to have in mind his future responsibilities when talking to his brother.

He seems to be obsessed with this "spare" issue and maybe that is what is at the root of all his actions. If he had any sense, he would thank God that he's not landed with having to be King and all the shit that goes with that, and just get on with his life.

Dustyblue · 05/01/2023 07:48

I like this interview with Prince Edward from 2021.

His closing line "It's difficult for everyone but that's families for you" should become their standard PR line.

www.ctvnews.ca/world/that-s-families-for-you-prince-edward-discusses-the-sussexes-the-bereaved-queen-and-his-father-s-legacy-1.5464147

RhymeHasAReason · 05/01/2023 07:49

HotChoxs · 05/01/2023 07:42

Yeah, and you can also make up stories and tell lies to sell a book

Does this look like a one sided fight to you where someone gets knocked down easily?

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My cousins 10 year old daughter knocked her down. She wasn’t expecting her to be physically violent. So it happens. 🤷🏻‍♀️

HotChoxs · 05/01/2023 07:50

RhymeHasAReason · 05/01/2023 07:46

No it not. It’s highlighting the victim blaming mentality, the minimising and the reasons that people that seemingly should defend themselves don’t. All things that victims do have to deal with.

If you doubt what Harry has said, say that, no one was there and we can’t know what happened. But the minimising of violence in general, the piss taking and victim blaming thought process on the thread is disturbing.

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Yeah coming across as a real victim isn't he, writing a book tearing down the Royal Family.

A victim of domestic abuse from his brother, one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the World, and a 6 foot solider who's shot at people.

But we're all just minimising aren't we.