Harry alleges/describes William physically attacking him in 2019

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www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Not really sure what to make of this tbh…

I love that PH described, completely unselfconsciously, PW "ripping my necklace."

(🎶🎶 Sensitive New Age guys! 🎶🎶)

If this story is (even mostly) true, there's no excuse for PW's actions no matter what Meghan had or had not done or said. The only possible excuse would have been if Harry went for William first, and that's not what's being said here.

AIBU to bash my little brother because he very annoyingly won't admit that his difficult, rude, abrasive wife is difficult, rude, and abrasive?

Yes, Willy, YABVU.

Oh great another one

The noble response to this is to move to a Country where guns are legal. Go Harry.

Not just their parents I think. The whole set up of royalty and all it is, and what surrounds it, is bound to bend the people within it out of shape.

This must have been the only time in the last 4 years that Harry didn't have his Netflix camera team with him to capture the whole incident on camera.

And his father’s too.

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11184827/Meghan-Markle-reveals-ugly-duckling-latest-episode-podcast.html

'I was an ugly duckling': Meghan Markle says she was a little girl with 'frizzy, curly hair and a huge gap in my teeth'

This is a psychologically damaged woman. As well as throwing African features under the bus (we must all conform to European hair is her lesson) she says she was a ‘loner’. I can’t say I’m shocked at that one.

Yeah.

I love that PH described, completely unselfconsciously, PW "ripping my necklace."

I think it summed the whole saga up very well.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.

the writer had a field day with this

There was a clip of MM at school where she was asking why dishwashing liquid ads were targeted at women and she came across as being very serious as well as humorless and not much, if any, fun. I can see why she was a loner but I’ve no idea if she preferred being or other children couldn’t be bothered with her.

Hasn’t she been open about her experiences with mental health, depression, suicidal thoughts, bullying, racism? This isn’t news

“the parvenu” ffs.

I confess I haven’t read the whole thread, but the scene, as described, sounds very unlikely:

’Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”’

’That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.’

’Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”’

’He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor.’

We’re supposed to believe William followed him to the kitchen, waited while Harry ran the tap, filling a glass of water, took the glass, then set it down, while still so angry as to respond to Harry’s innocuous comment that he can’t speak to him with physical violence?

If there was violence, I bet Harry wasn’t behaving as innocently as he suggests.

@Aarohi
I love that PH described, completely unselfconsciously, PW "ripping my necklace."

Did you love it when he described, completely unselfconsciously. "If there's people trying to do bad stuff to our guys, then we'll take them out of the game, I suppose," he said. "Take a life to save a life … the squadron's been out here. Everyone's fired a certain amount."

Yes, he was in a combat zone shooting and likely killing Afghan insurgents. He's not some wilting flower that allows himself to be pushed around.

Not a fan of the pair of them, but this isn’t nice. Am sure lots of kids go through stages like this in their childhood.

The dishwashing liquid story is “fair game” as she has mentioned it enough! But the comments re how she was as a child don’t sit right with me.

I wonder what has been left out?

The account states they met to discuss their relationship and the media. So was that not discussed?

He just turned up and started saying things about M (in a pretty posh, polite way really) and H went to get him water and then bowlgate happened?

In the guardian it accounts that the brothers shout at eachother - about what?

Also noted that when he told M she was reportedly not surprised but sad. So she's not surprised because she knows W so well?

M is not surprised as w goes around being violent but w doesn't know her and only gets his info from the media - the media he has been leaking stories to about M? So which is it?

Where is the photographer when you need them? They managed to snap everything else…

@clyspa you are making assumptions there which is why you’re confused:

M’s opinion of W is that he is not supportive of her, so hearing H&W got into a row about her is not surprising to her as she thinks W has an issue with her.

It’s possible for W not to know M personally and for W to simultaneously leak stories about M, that’s not contradictory. He isn’t the creator of every single article about her, she’s a public figure - there’s load of information that can be gleamed about her online. The same way non-royals might check someone’s social media to see where they went to school, who they know etc.

Makes you wonder if all these allegations are true why they wanted the half in half out model 🤔

Or maybe this didn’t happen or at least we are only hearing a snippet.

And siblings argue. Big deal.

For someone who speaks about mental health he really doesn’t give a shit about his family’s MH at all.

He’s got a huge chip on his shoulder about being the spare instead of embracing the freedom of not being heir & privileges of being spare it brings.

Twitter seems to be pretty pro-Harry in response to this news.

Happens all the time brothers falling out because of SIL's.

Thing is in 10/20 years no one will care, William's kids will be grown ups with the paps following them and H and M will be a footnote in history. Just as many never believed the abdicated King would never be forgotten, H and M will roll into middle age doing the dinner curcuit ragailing times when they were notable.

We all have family rules and many step out of them for a while, usually being egged on by some outside influence, but unfortunately theres quite a lot at stake with this particular family, you buy into the rules or you become ostracised and that means not biting the hand that feeds. The state, royalty and the church all in full agreement to keep the status quo, Harry wont change that, they're not going to start a revolution and bring the crown down, they will make money and that's it, but they will find themselves ostracised as they become older and I hope their relationship is strong enough for them to remain a team and married because ultimately it will be the children who suffer.

The royals will never cease to be a form of entertainment but blimey Megan's got some kahunas for kicking against it, you've got to admire that in her, it's either utter delusion or complete ignorance, I havn't yet figured out which one it is.

That's what I thought.

I don't condone violence but for a man who makes much of his stints in the military if his brother pushed him over into a dog bowl ( & we only have one side ) well - so be it . If someone wanted to make dog bowls with an imprint of an arse on it and sell it on Etsy - I would frankly just laugh.

More seriously - he claims he has had therapy & he was associated with mental health charities or worked for mental health & well-being & phoned his therapist after the brother dog bowl thing - but could not get help for his wife when she said she was struggling with MH - it doesn't ring true to me - BUT I do not know the chap so who knows

Yeah, we could have told his therapist about his wife needing help too as she was suicidal.