Do Harry and Meghan realise hardly anyone supports them?

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So everywhere there seems to be complete negativity towards the Netflix documentary and the autobiography coming out. They seem to be universally slated as whingers.
so how much do you think this feeds back to them? It must be v easy to live in a bubble with close supporters telling them they are doing a grand job. But how much reality do you think gets through of how badly they are coming across,

Me too. Maybe it's regional or age related. In my 40s in the North West England people are either unaware, ambivalent or unsupportive.

Harry should therefore have known the rules, which is that once you've left you do not wear uniform - unless you have reached the rank of Lt Col or above (and wear a badge to show that you're retired)

When Harry retired, he had not reached that rank, and so did not qualify as a veteran. His honorary ranks had been relinquished.

Not the same for Andrew - who had reached the equivalent rank (and had served for over twice as long as Harry) - but who was also going to be in civvies

Harry wanted - and got - special treatment

Nobody in my real life ever mentions this topic so it, most likely, doesn't register. It's a non event nowadays.
I don't quite know why the press mentions them so often, unless it is a publicity driven exercise.
Friends from other countries discussed the Queen's passing. But nobody in the UK or from abroad from my circle of friends, familiar, acquaintances, ever mentions Harry and Meghan.
I still haven't got around to watching any of their Netflix series but I will try one day.

Even if you just consider them figureheads, it is their official roles as commander-in-chief (colonel, commodore etc) of various regiments and the like that qualify them to wear a uniform.

Harry could also previously wear a uniform, but that was because of his honorary military roles, like captain general of the royal marines. He no longer holds these.

When he finished active military duty he was a captain, and as I understand it, this is too low a rank to qualify to wear uniform after leaving the military.

See, I read it differently. I see them shouting the loudest because they want change. I'm indifferent about the royal family, however I also see that there are long held traditions/views coupled with far too much media scrutiny and that there are some people who will think that it is outdated and is negatively affecting their lives.

William is clearly happy with his responsibilities and his English Rose wife (who also seems lovely) fits into what is expected.

Harry does not want that restrictive life and the tabloids harassed his Mum. His wife is not an English Rose, she's an opinionated American woman so even with race aside, some of the British public still won't like her.

All anyone really knows is on the back of what either H and M have said or what the media have said. That is it.

I’m not keen, he’s a hypocritical fool, but I think they were definitely treated badly. It’s just the screechers that make it seem like they’re more disliked than they are.

I dont know what any of my friends or colleagues opinions are of them, its never come up in conversation. I personally think they are both lovely and I hope they have a nice life after all the shit they have been through.

I'm fairly sympathetic to them and think they have been treated very badly by the press.

I think though that they do need to ease back on the documentaries and interviews now though, and I won't be buying Harry's book.

Reaction in the US seems to be much more negative than they anticipated. The constant moaning about the press whilst they court publicity, and the "poor us" shtick whilst they live in absolute luxury in particular don't go down well. The trouble is that neither H&M nor their advisers seem to know how to remedy that, otherwise Harry wouldn't have given the idiotic TV interviews claiming he wants his father and brother back.

H&M aren't nearly as unpopular as their critics on Mnet think.

I've got more of an issue with Prince Andrew but each to their own I guess... 🙄

Mainly because they’re so irrelevant. Not because love them.

@SnowlayRoundabout totally agree. America was their main aim and it has been much more negative than they anticipated. I don’t think they give a toss about the U.K.

Right now, I support H&M, especially after watching their recent documentary. Prior to it, I had a very low opinion of Meghan and admittedly saw her as that self-centred, Diana/Wallis wannabe, 'Me-Again' control freak that she is often portrayed as in the media.

When she came on the scene in 2017, I liked her a lot and thought she was great for TRF. I started to like her less when she apparently accused TRF and all of us of being racist.

Since then, anything I've read about Meghan
had likely shaped my view and, believe me, there's a tonne of nasty things written about her on the likes of Quora. I think it was on there where I read how Meghan had bullied staff at the palace and how there had been an incident in Australia where she threw a cup of tea at someone.

Reading a feature on her childhood which I think was written from or about her estranged childhood friend, Ninaki Priddy, also heavily put me off her as it showed many photos of Meghan dressed up wearing a crown as a child and wanting to be a princess. The article also covered her and the friend in question's trip to London and showed a photo of them posing in front of Buckingham Palace (to me, this contradicted Meghan's claims that she knew very little of TRF). The article also painted a picture of Meghan as someone who gets what she wants from people and friends and then ditches them, i.e. a right social climber.

I recall another thing that really put me off her was watching an interview of her on Craig Ferguson's show. She wore a slinky, black dress. She came off as sexy in a tarty way, immensely flirtatious and very threatening (not to me, but in the way I know women wouldn't like her had I asked a 100 women in the street). She looked and spoke with all the hallmarks of a femme fatale and totally looked and fit the part.

It was their interview on Oprah that really annoyed me and I disliked H&M probably all the way until I watched their recent documentary.

The documentary explains a lot. I got a sense of Meghan's character more. She's an intelligent and confident woman who happens to be attractive as well and we all know how society reacts to people with those characteristics. It doesn't help that she's American, and hasn't presented herself in a modest light, but has been vocal and all of the things that rub us British the wrong way.

Good luck to them.

Yep. They are completely irrelevant and their existence has no impact on anyone who doesn't know them personally.🤷‍♀️

Well, quite.

Well, exactly - they're impossible to escape!

This.

Everyone I know has sympathy for them. Certainly no hatred.

I don’t think they are perfect and I never really warmed to her, but on the whole I feel sympathetic towards them. I only know one person who really dislikes her and the rest are either sympathetic or indifferent.

Totally agree, myself and my circle of friends and colleagues support them and wish them nothing but well. Can’t believe the energy some people have to bad mouth then with such passion, really isn’t healthy.

Ooops my posts should have quoted the first ever response.

I support them. I’m not fans of either of them, because I’m disinterested in celebrities the royal family, but do I think that the royal family is dysfunctional?, resounding yes, do I think the royal family didn’t support Meghan and the racist onslaught she received from the U.K. tabloids?, resounding yes again.

Everyone I know believes their side of the story (except my grim racist inlaws), sorry I think you’re in an echo chamber, many people do support them, just not people you know.

OP you say that Harry and Meghan are damaging our reputation for trading abroad. How much damage do you think Prince Andrew, Brexit, Boris Johnson and Party Gate, Liz Truss trashing the economy, and police officer kidnapping and murdering a young woman, senior government talking about refugees like they're less than human and an MP appearing on a reality show when the UK is in crisis.

Surely the Sussexes can't be damaging the countrymore than those things?

Shameful? Typical response. I do not support the Royal Family, in MY opinion they have a pretty great life and yes the constant whinging grates when people are genuinely suffering. MY OPINION.

It they were that irrelevant,why the endless threads about them?