Page 7 | Do Harry and Meghan realise hardly anyone supports them?

Spck · 2023-01-02T21:40:10+00:00

So everywhere there seems to be complete negativity towards the Netflix documentary and the autobiography coming out. They seem to be universally slated as whingers. so how much do you think this feeds back to them? It must be v easy to live in a bubble with close supporters telling them they are doing a grand job. But how much reality do you think gets through of how badly they are coming across,

milti · 02/01/2023 22:55

Look at the polls - only Andrew is less popular - m and h are about as popular as a fart in a lift

HotWashCycle · 02/01/2023 22:56

I saw a survey yesterday that said they were not well supported here - most people are not sympathetic/don't believe them. But presumably it is their American audience they care about. What interest does Meghan have in the British public? Not much, probably.

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How2Support · 02/01/2023 22:57

I think if you have experience of:
*family estrangement;
*emotionally repressed or immature parents;
*Press intrusion;
*Taking on a powerful institution
Etc - you will have some sympathy for them. I find their overall narrative believable. And I put people like OP in the same bucket as flat earth anti-vaxxer types. Fed bullshit and feel special eating it.

OnaBegonia · 02/01/2023 23:00

@PrincessofWellies
It was petty, A & C are figureheads, Harry saw active duty and to deny him wearing his uniform is completely petty and demeaning.

BethDuttonsTwin · 02/01/2023 23:01

How2Support · 02/01/2023 22:57

I think if you have experience of:
*family estrangement;
*emotionally repressed or immature parents;
*Press intrusion;
*Taking on a powerful institution
Etc - you will have some sympathy for them. I find their overall narrative believable. And I put people like OP in the same bucket as flat earth anti-vaxxer types. Fed bullshit and feel special eating it.

I have experience of all these things and I see those issues coming from H & M and being recreated in their own couple and family dynamic.

Spectre8 · 02/01/2023 23:01

I support them, the tocis press and the institution is what they are shining a light on i can see the nuance they are making, they are personally attacking the people its the institution and press itself

And well if his brother and him had an agreement and one brother reneged on it yeah fuck yeah I can understand why one would be angry.

The rf don't stand for anything they say they represent this country but they don't...from racists remarks to basically slinging fake stories to divert attention from one member to another, to never standing up and speaking up and allowing the women to be vilified in the press endlessly.

I get where Harry is coming from he wants his family not the institution and if his family cannot separate themselves from it to have a relationship than shame

Coxspurplepippin · 02/01/2023 23:01

OnaBegonia · 02/01/2023 23:00

@PrincessofWellies
It was petty, A & C are figureheads, Harry saw active duty and to deny him wearing his uniform is completely petty and demeaning.

Except the same rule applies to other former service personnel. Are you suggesting Harry is treated differently to other ex servicemen?

inkworks273 · 02/01/2023 23:02

I've always been able to see through the media's blatant attempts to make them look as bad as possible. It baffles me the amount of people who believe what they read.

My mum has always took what the media says about them at face value but after watching their documentary she seems to have done a complete u-turn and now thinks they've been treated horribly by the press and also the royal family.

Bunce1 · 02/01/2023 23:03

in My demographic- white gen x, educated professionals, middle class the general consensus seems to be…

not too bright
can’t work out what they want
H- trauma trauma trauma and needs serious help OFF camera/press
UK tabloid press- appalling racist and all in all horrendous coverage
M- fame hungry and sad face that she wasn’t luffed by the RF and others by just being a pretty American woman.

StaunchMomma · 02/01/2023 23:05

The only people I know who hate them voted for both Boris & Brexit and tend to like Nigel Farage so I don't really pay much attention to their opinions, in honesty.

PlinkyPlonk1 · 02/01/2023 23:05

I totally support them and so do the friends that I've spoken to about it. I think that Harry is the most real of all of the royal family.

I certainly don't believe the crap that's in the tabloid press.

MoggyP · 02/01/2023 23:06

That they have been chosen by gods to rule over common people

Divine right (which didn't exactly mean that in the first place, was repudiated in the Glorious Revolution of 1688. Do keep up!

TidyDancer · 02/01/2023 23:06

I don't know anyone who supports them tbh. Fairly wide demographic of people. Most people did in the beginning when they got married but not now. Virtually everyone I know whose opinion I am aware of sees through them and is tired of the constant moaning now.

AngelicaElizaAndPeggy · 02/01/2023 23:07

Spck · 02/01/2023 21:58

I work internationally in my job and while this might seem a minor spat they are painting the whole of the U.K. in a negative light. I do think they are causing much wider damage than most people think and are creating a negative view of the U.K. abroad.

I think there are far greater things tarring the reputation of Britain abroad than Harry and meghan tbh.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/01/2023 23:07

Spck · 02/01/2023 21:58

I work internationally in my job and while this might seem a minor spat they are painting the whole of the U.K. in a negative light. I do think they are causing much wider damage than most people think and are creating a negative view of the U.K. abroad.

I have friends from numerous countries, have travelled in 10s and lived in a few. I can say with some experience that most people around the world don't give the RF any more than a cursory thought. They might ask a polite, generic question because you're British and therefore it's chit chat.

I always say I can't stand any of them but M&H aren't the worse. I will say that a high proportion of my global friends like Meghan but then again most of them aren't white. I suspect they see the racism more clearly than the average white Brit.

OnTheRoadAgain1 · 02/01/2023 23:09

Educated professionals I know either support them or are indifferent.

No one I know has strong feelings either way because it is not their lives and they are aware everyone will have their own views/feelings and that that media has it's own agenda (well, I'm guessing that's their reasoning because it is mine).

There are people in the public eye I don't like but I've never gotten angry or felt fed up seeing them. I just scroll past that particular article.

OnTheRoadAgain1 · 02/01/2023 23:11

OnTheRoadAgain1 · 02/01/2023 23:09

Educated professionals I know either support them or are indifferent.

No one I know has strong feelings either way because it is not their lives and they are aware everyone will have their own views/feelings and that that media has it's own agenda (well, I'm guessing that's their reasoning because it is mine).

There are people in the public eye I don't like but I've never gotten angry or felt fed up seeing them. I just scroll past that particular article.

This was in response to a PP

Peacelily38 · 02/01/2023 23:14

I don't know what's happened between their family but the only one I can see who is evidently behaving out of turn is Harry, selling stories on your family for millions of pounds isn't ok.

Hes doing exactly what he blamed Meghan's father of doing and they cut him out, yet he expects to be forgiven by his family.
To me he lacks self awareness.

It all looks very hypocritical and he looks like he's lost the ability to behave like an adult, his behaviour comes across as chaotic with no understanding of consequences and how other people will be effected by what he says both with the trial by media and personal upset.
Particularly people who cant defend their position.

I have experience of difficult family relationships and in my experience it's the ones in the wrong that shout the loudest and cause the drama.

Other than that it's only one side so I couldn't gauge who is 'wrong', It's possible all have been at points, I wasn't there so I can't draw a conclusion and to be perfectly honest it's nothing to do with me.

I think for Harry's own benefit he should move on with his life and stop selling stories.

Coxspurplepippin · 02/01/2023 23:15

inkworks273 · 02/01/2023 23:02

I've always been able to see through the media's blatant attempts to make them look as bad as possible. It baffles me the amount of people who believe what they read.

My mum has always took what the media says about them at face value but after watching their documentary she seems to have done a complete u-turn and now thinks they've been treated horribly by the press and also the royal family.

But your Mum's just swapping one media opinion for another. Harry and Meghan's version of what happened is no more or less biased than any other.

Legallypinkish · 02/01/2023 23:16

i liked them before the Netflix documentary but completely changed my mind after watching. Up until the 4th episode I could see how bad the press had been but then it all got a bit ridiculous.

Theres some strange stuff though on Twitter that is completely ridiculous like that Meghan was never pregnant and used a surrogate.

in real life I it’s a mixed bag with friends but most people I know aren’t really interested either way.

Bellevu · 02/01/2023 23:17

I'm not white and pretty much every person of colour I know believes them. We have lived their experiences of racism, gaslighting and being othered.

The snide snarkiness and implying racism is a figment of their imagination only reinforces the denial of many white people when we point out that something is wrong.

We believe them because we've lived the same insults and saw with our own eyes. The more the Palace and tabloids paint them as fantasists, the more their grievances are validated.

Again black men and women have their own examples of the things they raised and when we read the lols used to undermine we have the same response as when we have to work with people like you.

Blossomtoes · 02/01/2023 23:22

NibbledSwitch · 02/01/2023 22:40

The OP is obviously a sychofantic subject of the Royal Family

She might even be able to spell sycophant.

DeeCeeCherry · 02/01/2023 23:22

happySaturdays·
Think press is skewed right wing and over 50s view

Younger than people under 50 and non whites def support I know many glad things finally being called out

^This.

I personally don't know anyone who's against them, thats of those who even have an opinion. The RF's reputation stinks, thats more so what I hear and Im not surprised

Thearex · 02/01/2023 23:23

It's not something my circle are particularly bothered about, other than maybe a passing comment. They see it as 'Posh Eastenders', eye rolling & laughing at the ridiculousness of the situation. It's mostly irrelevant to the people I know.

Not one party comes out looking good.

Most people see it as a nuanced situation, certainly not black and white. Fault, misunderstanding and perceived slights on all sides (RF, H&M, Palace staff & media.)

Nobody I know supports either side 100%.