Do Harry and Meghan realise hardly anyone supports them?

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So everywhere there seems to be complete negativity towards the Netflix documentary and the autobiography coming out. They seem to be universally slated as whingers.
so how much do you think this feeds back to them? It must be v easy to live in a bubble with close supporters telling them they are doing a grand job. But how much reality do you think gets through of how badly they are coming across,

I didn't know anyone had linked the whole two pages on here. I haven't seen it.

It needs to be read in context

Indeed. I agree with @Roussette that it was misjudged.

My point is simply that it was not boastful at all as presented in the press.

The Taliban no longer allow women to go to universities or girls to school so they are not who I would look to for nuance. But I do get your point, absolutely.

Of course I've read both

And the context which stands out to me is how the 'gaffe' wasn't made when he spoke a decade ago

And I wouldn't use the term 'gaffe' for what is actually a serious misjudgement, now he does not have the same calibre of advisers

Obviously t's natural not to want his mother replaced. The point is, as I've said more than once, that if he chooses to include a section on that obvious and unremarkable fact he must be aware that it's going to be leapt on by the press and publicised with suggestions that both he and his brother resented his father. He and his supporters can't moan about things being taken out of context when everything in that book is, ultimately, his choice and he knew perfectly well what would happen.

What's that "practitioner of magical thinking" stuff in the Afghanistan extract about?

How does me saying about 12 times now he should not have given a number of the Taliban killed nor talked of them as chess pieces.

I don't know what else you want me to say. It has caused problems. He should not have done that.

13 times now. Please stop making your posts personal to me. I am not ignoring it. I am decrying it.

@Roussette ette, Omid Scobie has tweeted the two pages.

See link here.

twitter.com/scobie/status/1611553985168642048?s=20&t=eFhsiJjmdeuveQh6ZHJjHg

Seeing it in context doesn't make him, his family or people around him safe, though, does it?

Oh dear, if Harry is going to Scobie to try to manage the fallout he's made yet another error of judgment.

It's his biography, of course he's going to talk about things in some depth. And personally I'm not complaining about the press taking things out of context, which they will always do. I just prefer to read it properly myself and make up my mind from that because I know things will get distorted by the press, especially working from a (very literal) translation of a translation.

Harry writes, according to the Sun, that he and William begged their father, Charles, not to wed his longtime partner Camilla. The prince recalls fears that she would become a “wicked stepmother” and be unfairly compared to Diana.

that phrase about diana was not included, and i believe it actually means he thought the press would vilify camilla

Of course it doesn’t. And it’s made London during the coronation a considerably more dangerous place. Context won’t make a happorth of difference to the literally millions of people whose lives are now in greater danger.

Oh, Omid Scobie already has a copy of the book? So much for that iron-clad security, what a complete coincidence etc etc 🤣🤣

I agree it was misjudged but I think this is being overblown.

It is already known Harry took out a high value Taliban commander.

It is also know that about 300 000 were killed by UK and US forces in Afghanistan, including civilians.

British soldiers killed thousands of Afghans. Harry should not have revealed he killed 25 among the thousands, but it is known he was one of the soldiers who killed combatants.

I think his security is as needed today as it always was because he has always been a high value target, and while this was misjudged, he remains a high value target, with or without the number being known.

I hadn't seen the whole thing, so that was interesting - thank you. 🙂

We knoe it's already been leaked so what is your point?

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My understanding is that those two pages were released after the furore, precisely to put the remarks in their context. I happen to follow him so that's how I saw it but the pages are all over twitter from other sources.

'Seeing it in context doesn't make him, his family or people around him safe, though, does it?'

No and the 'context' doesn't make any difference whatsoever. I can't believe some are calling it a 'gaffe'. Like everything in his tacky book it is a stupid, ill-judged comment whether as a stand alone comment or part of 2 pages of longwinded twaddle.

He should be ashamed of himself. No doubt he will be one day when the Netflix bucks gave dried up and his US enablers have stopped taking his calls.

What about the public’s security on 6 May @MrsMaxDeWinter?

As former serving military and a royal Harry already had a target on his back.

Meghan was getting death threats from far right extremists (according to the UK security services and police) throughout their time as working royals and at the time he was denied the right to pay for formal security.

Would I quote numbers? No I don't think so but this sounds a lot like victim blaming. Quoting numbers hasn't made him a target - he already was.

'Took out' .

It hasn't been 'overblown'. Let hope the taliban don't take advantage of this privilege stupid man's self indulgent book and order reprisals.

Nobody would ever be able to sit an English/MFL G.C.S.E if extracts were completely meaningless out of context. What excuses (lost in translation, out of context). But you would, wouldn't you? 😉

Its an autobiography. Is he supposed to write an autobiography (and yes, obviously with a ghostwriter) and just leave out all the difficult parts in favour of a saccharine "everyone and everything was nice" yarn?

Granted most authorised royal biogs end up like that but they are not then genuine or useful biographies - just puff pieces.