Do Harry and Meghan realise hardly anyone supports them?

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So everywhere there seems to be complete negativity towards the Netflix documentary and the autobiography coming out. They seem to be universally slated as whingers.
so how much do you think this feeds back to them? It must be v easy to live in a bubble with close supporters telling them they are doing a grand job. But how much reality do you think gets through of how badly they are coming across,

The title of this thread has just attracted all the supporters who have leapt to prove OP wrong!

start another one saying ‘does the RF realise that everyone hates them now or to they live in a bubble?’ and see what happens.

Harry’s comments and conversations were recorded by the biographer (as most biographers would do)

Does Harry have recorded evidence to support his more fanciful claims which he produced for the biographer - we will have to wait and see.

I’m expecting more revelations over the weekend until all that is left to be revealed in the books is Harry’s recipe for a quinoa enema and how he taps for joy.

i’m more interested in hearing from the biographer at this point. Seeing as he didn’t edit out the necklace and dog bowl, I’m wondering how he felt about his subject by the end of the project.

As for the boasting about the security around the book, it reminds me of the unsinkable titanic marketing. Idiotic and laughable

Because she called me a fantasist for posting I’d read something?

I don’t think I’ve disputed the fact there was an embargo.
But the rebuttal was there’s no way I could have known because of an embargo.

Thanks for posting that, proves my point.
Said ‘I’ve heard it contains transcripts and details of conversations. I hope so’

What part of this have i fantasised about?

Hearing gossip that’s half true doesn’t make me a fantasist.

It’s rude to call people names.

#BeKind #CompassionInAction.

I support them

I know lots who do

The media barrage for years is clearly racially and politically fuelled (egged on by the royal household)

The theory wasn’t that the embargo was in place.
The theory was that because the embargo was in place, there could be no possible leaks

Which was wrong. Which was a fantasy.

@PicturesOfDogs

You’d better draw a Venn Diagram 😀

Where did you hear it though? Was there a pre-leak to the leak I'm unaware of? Tbh if I'd read that I'd have assumed you were fantasising - half the posts on these threads are anyway.

Honestly, the logic 🤦‍♀️😂

Imagine thinking just because I heard the book features a transcript means I don’t know what a transcript is if the book then doesn’t feature a transcript.

The Venn diagram would probably be ‘people who understand what words mean’ and ‘people who fucking don’t’

I read it somewhere. Can’t remember where.
There were a lot of reports flying around.

It was such a throw away comment too 😂

But why the fuck would you assume someone was ‘fantasising’ about hearing a bit of gossip and hoping it was true? Was the ‘hoping it’s true’ not enough of a giveaway that I didn’t know it was true?

About ‘why am I making a big thing’ about someone completely misrepresenting me and calling me names? You lot are funny

I'm not part of a 'you lot'. I would assume it was a fantasy because as far as I'm aware you'd have no way of knowing. I didn't see or comment on your original post or comment on it but it doesn't sound particularly legit 🤷‍♀️. Sorry if I've offended, feel free to gossip obviously- there wouldn't be much going on on these boards otherwise.

Indeed

Well, you seem like ‘you lot’ when you jumped in asking ‘why I was making such a big deal about it’.

It was pretty obvious I had no way of knowing when I said ‘I’ve heard this and I hope it’s true’.

‘You didn’t see or comment, but it didn’t sound legit’ So does that make you a fantasist too now, ascribing motive to something you didn’t even read?

Maybe don’t insert yourself so forcefully next time if you don’t actually know what’s going on.
Just some advice

@Aspiringmatriarch

@Alighttouchonthetiller pictures She wasn't wrong in saying there was security and a tight embargo - it wasn't foolproof is all. Why are you making a big thing about it? Did you have some crystal ball vision about the book leaking? Great, give yourself a pat on the back.

Because she made such a big thing about it saying that, because of the tight security, no way could anyone know what was in the book so if they say they do, they're fantasists.

And then when people started quoting the book, security obviously not being that tight, and they clearly weren't fantasists, instead of just laughingly conceding that she'd got it wrong, or PRH got it wrong, or there'd been a cock up or just generally being gracious, she just doubled down on how right she was.

It doesn't take a crystal ball to see the possibility of leaking through human error, especially when the enterprise us on such a large scale. And of course, this Spanish version might just be a big clever hoax and nothing actually leaked. In which case, I'll apologise. Because we all make mistakes and there's nothing wrong in admitting it.

Does all this warrant hundreds of million of dollars going to them? Is that 'proportional'?
By the nature of the sums of money flowing their way I don't see how it's possible to portray them as hard done by.

On a bell curve of hard done by it's on the extreme lower end and logically warrants no attention.

Up the higher end are people who struggle to feed themselves on a daily basis

Basic maths simply does not support your post.

Statements would have been issued if that were the case.

They do have supporters sadly.
Normally, it'll be those who have little to no knowledge or interest in British history, culture, traditions, royal family history etc. Also those from black or mixed race backgrounds who see Meghan as 'one of us' and who focus more on that than whether she's telling the truth or not, even when presented with evidence she's not (like the 'we got married in the garden' claim). There are also those who see racism everywhere and tleft wing / liberals who think the royal family represent conservatorism / republicanism.
Its less about H&M themselves and more what people seem to think they represent.

OMG. Are you insane? 🙈 Hard hats on everybody. Here's one for you. 🪖 Watch out. Incoming...

Agree. There’s something very off about how many people are on here saying they support them as does everyone they know. Really? I think the headline disproportionately attracted defenders of the couple.

I don’t read tabloids but I can tell by their actions that they are idiots. They wanted to commercially monetise being royal with the “Sussex Royal” brand. They go on about devoting themselves to public service through Archewell but refuse to follow the example of the Queen and do real public service - day after day visits to non-glamorous corners of the UK visiting charities and hospitals and community centres for no direct pay. Harry is spoiled and petulant (based on reports from someone I know who worked with him) and doesn’t take responsibility for his own actions (based on the blame game in his book re: the Nazi costume). His chief complaint is that the unearned privileges of being born grandson of the Queen were not shared equally between he and Willy. He didn’t move to a quiet corner of Canada out of the spotlight for a “normal life”. He moved to a 16 bathroom home on Oprah’s street. It’s worrying to me if so many people are lapping up their tales of victimhood and actually feeling sorry for them.

The Irony is you don't know them either apart from what you have read in newspapers .

@x2boys

we do know them. They have written books made documentaries and released podcasts ‘so we get to know the real them’ - their own words, unfortunately those words aren’t clever or insightful, they’re usually blaming others and often contradictory embellished or plain lies

'Its less about H&M themselves and more what people seem to think they represent.'

I agree. So much projection regarding race due to own personal experiences, so much venting spleens over privilege and outdated monarchies, so much jumping on bandwagons.

I believe the Markles even feature Brexit in their reality show, trying to label the whole of the UK as racists. Zero introspection, self awareness and zero kindness of course.

His latest stunt is very very misguided. The exerpts are full of utter stupidity. He's killed 25 taliban, is circumcised and an older lady who liked horses slapped his 'ass'. Why on earth does he think these comments should ever have been included?!

Bitterness and resentment really are eating him up. I look forward to seeing Willy and Catherine rising about it and totally ignoring him.

In know a lot about of British history and the monarch and some of it isn't great. What's wrong with people of colour and lefties? We wouldn't have an NHS if it wasn't for lefties or working rights etc.

Fair enough. I do not know them but the information I refer to is from BBC not “tabloids” and from what they have said on film and published.

I think it's possibly just you & the people you know OP and certain Mumsnet types. Everyone I know (and that is hardly any royalists) support them.

We can all see exactly what people mean when they say "I just don't like MM, can't quite put my finger on why" or "she's insincere" or "i don't trust her"
I also suspect waity katy & baldy pegger camp have some pr people on here shit stirring

I've literally just watched a snippet of an interview with Harry on BBC News and he says they want "privacy".

His actions don't consolidate with the words coming out of his mouth. If I truly wanted privacy I wouldn't be announcing the mounting and plethora of other shite they're instigating. I would sail off into the American sunset and enjoy life as a non-royal with my family.

But that doesn't come free does it? As soon as his cash flow was stumped all the accusations start flowing.

I don't believe his intentions for accountability are true (his words). It's a vendetta for cutting his wallet off but why the fuck should the British public fund his lifestyle of sitting around doing fuck all in a different country? The other royals at least at working royals.

If they buggered off and kept their trap shut, I would be happy for him for going his own way but the shit smearing campaign has diminished his integrity (in my own opinion of course).