Harry’s latest interview - I want my father back

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news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-says-he-wants-his-father-and-brother-back-as-trailer-for-tv-interview-is-released-12778357

Think that ship might have sailed…and sunk!

A tangent, I know, but I've never understood this AI/bot thing ... are there supposed to be ready made comments which folk push a button for or something?

I'm no wiser after googling it, so if anyone has the patience to explain it to an old gimmer who's hopeless with tech it would be really appreciated

I feel sorry for him. His family are an institution and being raised in that should have given him some understanding of it.

He is clearly suffering from significant mental health issues and never dealt with his mothers death. He seems to be in every way his mothers son and like Diana he seems doomed to unhappiness . Unless of course he can address his issues

I should add that he seems to be suffering from mental health issues and has said this in the past. I do hope that he can get through this, he doesn’t look happy to me

The happy-go-lucky, cheeky chap now seems to be melancholic and serious.

I think that that was just his persona when "on show".

if his miserable face and petulent behaviour is that of someone thriving, I’d hate to see what he looks like when he is struggling

Tell me about it
Even allowing for the media using images which suit their narrative there's still the live stuff/behaviour, and I wouldn't wish that sort of obvious internal chaos on anyone

I wonder if Meghan wants her daddy back too now.

An excellent summary.

Of course not, he can't bring anything to the table that they can capitalise on.

@Treetrim I agree. The difficulty I have with that though is that many children lose a parent, even both parents, are shunted into the system and have their lives ripped out from under them. And so much worse. So Harry is nothing special in that regard, while he has also had the most privileged upbringing and access to the best possible counselling. His mum is dead but he isn't a kid walking behind a coffin any more (although that idea is repeatedly used by his supporters to tug at the heartstrings) he's nearly 40 and has to stop blaming everyone else for the hand that life has dealt him.

Perfectly put @Serenster.

I agree with this. And not only an institution, but one where it appears there are competing factions and no transparency or accountability.

Why is it ok for them to talk to the press, write books and give interviews talking about family business and think the family should be ok with it. But not ok for Thomas Markle to talk to the press. He isnt goint to be forgiven but they think they should be. It doesn't make sense

'I think the Royal Family have done entirely the right thing here in not rising to any of the bait'

Totally agree.

Surely someone can get through to him? Perhaps Thomas could reach out and give him strategies on how to cope when ghosted.

“So when we’re being told for the last six years, ‘We can’t put a statement out to protect you,’ but you do it for other members of the family, it becomes– there becomes a point when silence is betrayal,”
In this quote from PH from the interview trailer - is he pointing the finger at HMQ as she was head of that institution for all of those 6 years and she and her team would have signed off on any action or inaction relating to public communication out of Buckingham Palace.

But sometimes you can’t have what you want. you have to accept what you have.

My own family history is ‘complex’ , my mother used to ridicule me for wanting the ‘ski yoghurt family’ ( readers of a certain age will get the reference) . I grieved as a teenager for the simple uncomplicated( or so it appeared) family life of my peers , but this is the family I have , I can’t change that , I myself ended up having counselling so that I could just accept it for what it was and not what I wanted it to be . No amount of weeping and wailing and lashing out will result in Harry having a ‘normal’ family because that’s not the family he has .

Sometimes you have to look for the good, his family clearly love him, W&K are making huge efforts to change the outcome for their dc ( Harry had already been full boarding for two years by Georges age), he has ditched many friends who have stood by him and probably would again. But the trust has gone, I think it will be very hard if not impossible to re build that .

Here’s a small sample of the many, many times the Palace Comms teams put out statements to protect Meghan is her less than 18 months as a working royal.

These obviously don’t include the joint statement made by Harry and William eight days after their relationship was made public telling the press to back off (together with Harry’s team’s huge efforts to get Meghan unprecedented protection as a royal girlfriend in just a couple of months).

And of course don’t forget the really big one - keeping the fact she was bullying her staff almost entirely out of the press while entirely failing to protect the staff members.

(For those who always seem to want to bring up “But the Palace denied Kate had Botox”, you will note that one of the images there is exactly the same action taken on behalf of Meghan.

A website claimed that Meghan was endorsing its diet pills, in the same way that a clinic had claimed that Kate was a fan of its Baby Botox. In both cases the Palace announced that the campaigns were obviously not true and an improper use of the Duchesses’ images for advertising purposes.)

Why can't kate (and Meghan) have Botox? Why does the media think it's the devils work? She should have Botox and fillers if needed. It's routine nowadays. Provided it's fairly natural who cares.

They can of course have Botox if they want to (Kate quite obviously does!). The problem in both cases wasn’t with the treatments, it was the face that a commercial business was pretending they had been endorsed by a Royal family member, when they hadn’t been.

(This is a problem for many celebrities, not just royal family members. Scammers quite often use a picture of Martin Lewis to make people more likely to trust them, for example).

Why can't kate (and Meghan) have Botox?

Nobody's saying they can't, but I think the point was that all those posters insisting "They never stuck up for Meghan" were mistaken

I didn't know about the "diet pills" one which Serenster linked, but there's no denying the parallels between the two claims and denials, though I've no doubt the "Yes buts ..." will be along soon

What happened with the initiative from the 72 MPs who wrote an open letter to stop racist attacks on MM from some parts of the British Media. Surely this must have had some traction? Can this not be made unlawful?

Harry and his wife are not worthy of our time to be honest.

Have you not noticed that Empire days are done?

you can still get Empire Biscuits, though.

yum yum yum yum yum

I'm not sure a bunch of MPs jumping on a bandwagon has traction on anything, Glindara, but racist attacks already are (quite rightly) unlawful

Unfortunately there's still too much of it about so understandably victims tend to choose only the very worst examples to take action over, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still wrong

'Harry and Meghan does not care about the UK market'.

Which one of them doesn't care about the UK market?

Why do they keep doing TV and writing books which will be seen or on sale in the UK if they don't care?