Harry’s latest interview - I want my father back

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news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-says-he-wants-his-father-and-brother-back-as-trailer-for-tv-interview-is-released-12778357

Think that ship might have sailed…and sunk!

There's also the fact that, whatever the perceived rights and wrongs of the situation, the royal family is vastly more powerful than them.

They've created a battle in which there can only be one winner. And it won't be the aspiring reality TV show stars of Montecito.

I expect there were - they were supposedly paying Sunshine Sachs PR a considerable sum for years but have recently dispensed of their counsel and have decided to manage that directly themselves…….what could go wrong….

Also the NF editorial team had quite a laugh with the images rapidly spinning up over their dialogue - more of a mockumentary

I watch the Behaviour Panel on YouTube. They're quite fair but call out what they see. Two of the panel said they'd actually been to the base where Harry served. They said that clearly he was a big target for the Taliban so he'd be kept safe if possible, but even if he had people looking after him, the base was often bombed so anyone working there was in danger of being killed. Therefore he had earned the same respect as all the soldiers who served there.

He's courting the media to promote a book about how the media ruined his life.

He doesn't hate the press. He hates press that isn't flattering to him and his wife. He's pro-propaganda and anti-free speech (in the beginning I used to think he and his wife weren't after privacy, they were after secrecy). And he is singularly lacking in a sense of humor about it. That alone would have got him off the hook with many Brits. But alas that requires a small amount of intelligence, self-awareness and perspective. Very much being hoisted by his own petard.

I can't remember what or who I was watching, but the commentator/historian said, if this had happened in the reigns of Tudours et al, Harry would have swiftly found himself in the tower 😳

But yes this is like modern Horrible Histories, I mean the late Queen's uncle was shunned and exiled basically, at least these two have been allowed some form of bridge and are still acknowledged somewhat even with The Kings first speech they were a footnote.

True.
Also the RFs 'win' won't be: and we proved we were right. It'll be: and we're just still going doing what we do because we're the RF and that's the gig.

H&Ms win would have been living in the states hobnobbing on the basis of their familial links to the RF.
But their stupid strategy has really blown that.

I wonder what they actually think they're going to win now?

If either of them has therapists they must be shit.

If Harry's new-found concern for equality, meritocracy, and social justice was genuine, why doesn't he request to be removed from the line of succession and call for the abolition of the monarchy? The complaints about the hierarchy within the royal family wouldn't seem so hypocritical if he'd also complain about the wider hierarchy, with the rf (regardless of their own internal beefs) from which he has benefited and continues to benefit. Bit rich to promote the 'linked not ranked' concept when you're constantly banging on about how your main gripe is being ranked no.2 rather than no.1 out of 67 million.

He doesn't hate the press. He hates press that isn't flattering to him and his wife

Exactly! And all the grief stems from M’s fury that in the early days about 1% of press wasn’t complimentary about her, with no appreciation that NO ONE in the public eye gets 100% an easy press ride, then add social media which is uncontrollable into the mix …One comment she didn’t like and Britain was racist and the RF let her down by not executing the offenders. I remember someone posher than me telling me all both W and H do all day is read btl comments in the Mail and bitch about them

I also think the endless ‘our great love story’ is beginning to grate. It’s such an odd thing to be promoting. They have the chance to use their money and connections to do something really useful, but instead they just whinge and throw rocks at their family. They can’t rehash everything forever, eventually they will need a new target for their bile. I wonder if they will turn on ‘Hollywood’ when they realise they aren’t part of the gang…

Yes. Charles and William hold all the cards. And they have time on their side. As you say, they don't need to be 'right'. They just need to sit this out, and that is what they will do. Keep calm and carry on.

I think it's Harry who is like Diana not Meghan.

Diana was not academic but had a natural way of interacting and connecting with people.
Like Harry.

Diana was emotionally fragile and easily manipulated by people.
Like Harry.

Diana had naïve romantic notions of love which she tried to fulfill in unrealistic relationships.
Harry thinks he's fulfilling this now but it's in such a naive clichéd way which doesn't feel real or sustainable.

Diana became paranoid and believed the firm were out to get her.
Like Harry.

Diana believed telling her truth would garner sympathy and was manipulated by journos into believing this.
Like Harry.

Diana was a tragic figure.
Which Harry may sadly become.

I don't think this is because of MM I think some tragedy/ drama may have played out whoever he was with, because of him.

It's because of MM it's taking this particular path/ story.

Omg that was so awful.

So while they are building a new life of charitable work , they need an income. The documentary, the book, everything up to now are steps to do exactly what you think they should do.

I think it's understandable that he needed to make money so he sold his connection to the RF because that's all he has. But did he need to drag his family to such a point that he no longer has a relationship with them? Could he not have done something more positive with his title?

If they cannot be king and queen then they are doing their best to try and bring down the show so that K&W never reign either

I'll happily admit that I used to think this narrative a bit overblown, along with the "jealousy" thing. But then, out of Harry's own mouth, came the ridiculous comment about his wife being better at the job than those born it, and now I'm not sure any more

And thanks, Marsha, for that bit about the Behaviour Panel; it sounds interesting and I'll try to catch it

Yes I can see it too!

Aye malaga you could be right there.

Agree with this.

Prince harry actually trained and qualified as an apache pilot. Nobody gets to do that just because they are the Queens grandson. It's very intensive and not everyone passed the course.
There was a media blackout imposed while he was serving in Afghan. If the British media are ordered to do this, they always comply. Unfortunately the Australian press revealed this, making it impossible for him continue, not only would his life be in mortal danger, but the lives of his comrades. They had no choice but to get him out immediately

The army wouldn't have let Harry work as a helicopter pilot if he wasn't competent. They wouldn't have put other soldiers at risk just because he was a prince.

Charles, Andrew, William and Harry have all successfully trained in the armed forces to become helicopter pilots, off the top of my head.

Was he deployed as pilot or co-pilot, Coxspurplepippin? I've seen both reported and don't pretend to know either way

This was actually discussed on another thread quite recently, and IIRC the official statement which someone linked said he was now "a fully operational pilot" and that he'd "successfully completed the course"
Interestingly however the words "qualified" and "passed" were not used.
I'm the first to admit this isn't my world so perhaps I wouldn't understand, but I did wonder if there was any significance to this

This is the BBC report.

Prince Harry qualifies as Apache helicopter commander www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23200552

And Edward and Philip too. Must be a big family tradition. I suppose it helps with the royal travelling.

He was trained as a pilot and did brief active service in Afghanistan until the Aussies blew the whistle. The point was he could never progress as an army officer beyond a low level

Puzzledandpissedoff don't know tbh.

Sarah Ferguson also qualified as a helicopter pilot.