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Harry’s latest interview - I want my father back

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Rinoachicken · 02/01/2023 12:22

news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-says-he-wants-his-father-and-brother-back-as-trailer-for-tv-interview-is-released-12778357

Think that ship might have sailed…and sunk!

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 02/01/2023 19:42

I have a strong feeling the British public may well have had no idea that Compton has a 25% Black and an 71% Latino population, and were a lot more aware of the constant repetition in the article of the fact that it has high crime rate. They won't have noticed that it wasn't where Meghan Markle grew up, either.

It's an article written by an American, probably for an LA audience. People in LA would "get" the implied racial slur; people in Basingstoke probably wouldn't.

I also have a feeling that in the UK "high crime rate" and "high percentage black population" are not seen as necessarily being the same thing. (Even the police in America appear to think that being black makes it a lot more likely an individual will be a criminal. There are a lot of seriously misread and misquoted statistics in official police documents designed to give them that impression. But that is hardly the responsibility or the fault of the Royal Family, any more than what the gutter press elect to print is, so it's not particularly relevant here, sorry.)

AcrossthePond55 · 02/01/2023 19:44

I think Meghan saw herself as a combo of Diana and Princess Grace of Monaco, America's 'original' actress-princess. I think as such, she saw herself 'eclipsing' all other royal women (ie, Kate) in popularity and publicity. She didn't reckon with Grace's dignity and style and Kate's position as wife of the heir presumptive (prior to the late Queen's demise) as factors in their popularity AND their places in the hierarchy and the PR machine.

I think she expected a Hollywood style publicity machine working on her behalf as well as thinking she was going to have 'clout' as Harry's wife and as a 'celebrity' in her own right. I also think she bought into all the publicity around the engagement that trumpeted her as bringing 'fresh air' and 'American point of view' to the monarchy. I think she was very surprised to find she had no clout and that her ability to effect change was 'nil' and that she wasn't going to be allowed to capitalize, a la American Capitalism, on her position, either. Instead of adapting to the new life she chose or exiting with grace, she grabbed Harry and flounced.

I think Harry is a weak, spoilt man who thought he found a woman who would fight his battles for him. How much he may have deceived Meghan as far as the reality of life in the RF vs what she thought it would be, who knows. But I do believe he wasn't honest with her, for his own benefit.

At this point both of them are angry things didn't turn out the way they wanted or expected them to and they're bent on justifying themselves to themselves even if it means tearing down their own families.

It will be interesting to see what they're going to have to say about the Hollywood/Celebrity circles once those people get tired of them or have decided they've gotten their 'money's worth' out of them. Will we have "Harry & Meghan Part Deux; How Hollywood Screwed Us Over"?

Serenster · 02/01/2023 19:45

onlylarkin · 02/01/2023 19:31

Please explain to me how he was supposed to make a living doing charity work?

He can't go out and flip burgers now can he. Not even before Meghan. He is to famous for that.

You know that CHIMPO job he waltzed into, despite having no experience or any qualifications? There was a portfolio career as a Senior Adviser and/or Non-Executive for all sorts of corporations and entities out there for the taking. Very well remunerated, but not the kind of money they have their eyes on, of course.

Fluffymule · 02/01/2023 19:45

Don't Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice have jobs? I know David Linley has been in business for years too. Peter Phillips did something in sports PR and is now a business manager for Zara's equestrian career, I think.

I read that Japan's recently departed Princess Mako had a civilian job in Japan previously and now has a role in a Museum in New York.

Princess Madeline of Sweden works in Miami for the World Childhood Foundation.

Harry could get a job and live a relatively private life, there is more than enough precedent and examples to show it is possible. I suspect the problem is that it wouldn't pay enough to support the type of lifestyle he wants to maintain.

onlylarkin · 02/01/2023 19:46

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 19:38

It's simple, you create a charity and become the CEO. You then draw in funding streams from government contracts, private sector contracts and fundraising, to deliver your work.

You pay yourself a nice wage, the staff receive theirs, and year on year, recommissioning of contracts come in, or new tenders become available you apply for them. Same as revenue streams from the lottery fund and other foundations. As well as your fundraising, you'll also have major benefactors that contribute.

H and M with their global platform, reach and substantial money already available to be placed as equity could make a really nice sum for them as CEO of a charity.

This is why they network with the Nelson Mandela Foundation, The Kennedy Foundation. They become mutual benefactors to eachother circling big money at the top of the ladder.

How strange that they didn't think of that.

Oh wait....

Archewell Foundation

It takes money to create a charity. It also takes money to live. So while they are building a new life of charitable work , they need an income. The documentary, the book, everything up to now are steps to do exactly what you think they should do.

Harry said that he tried to do this privately/differently, but information was leaked. So here we are.

I said this months ago but it is still true. When a person watches every interview, reading the book, heck even reading the DM articles and posting on MN, they are participating in the very thing they want to fade into the background.

Cornettoninja · 02/01/2023 19:46

I wonder how people say "he should be happy" or "he should have gotten a job".

For Christ's sake. That is what he is doing! How is that going for him?

same as any other rich but slightly dim kid does and use favour to get a respectable job title in a role where they ultimately can’t do much damage. It wouldn’t net him millions pa or a Hollywood circle but he could be living a pretty luxurious life started off with his own personal wealth and maintained. MM could have traded on the royal connection to actually further her existing career.

If trump and musk managed it I’m pretty sure that pair could have.

Jacopo · 02/01/2023 19:46

I think the comments on social media about Meghan’s race were disgusting, and so were the posts by Jeremy Clarkson, Danny Baker and the like. BUT I object to Harry and Meghan’s claims that the UK is a racist society overall. Yes, we MUST learn from our colonialist past. But do a Google search on “Least racist countries” - the UK is ranked 16 (top 15 are mainly European nations) and the USA is ranked 69 (behind China, Uzbekistan etc.).
A Google search on “most racist countries” also shows the UK to be a tolerant country compared to most.
We have a long way to go, and there’s no room for complacency, but we are by no means the terrible place that some people (including Harry) are alleging.

Rhondaa · 02/01/2023 19:46

Serenster · 02/01/2023 19:45

You know that CHIMPO job he waltzed into, despite having no experience or any qualifications? There was a portfolio career as a Senior Adviser and/or Non-Executive for all sorts of corporations and entities out there for the taking. Very well remunerated, but not the kind of money they have their eyes on, of course.

Exactly.
Not Netflix though. Kerrrching.

bakalava · 02/01/2023 19:48

same as any other rich but slightly dim kid does and use favour to get a respectable job title in a role where they ultimately can’t do much damage.

Yes, he could have trained as a surveyor! 😁

Rockybooboo · 02/01/2023 19:49

Okisenough · 02/01/2023 14:03

I read an article about how the RF have to stay relevant or else people will realise they are not worth the luxury they live in especially during a recession. So I personally think that this is part of that agenda, Harry and Meghan are the evil victims biting the hands that feed them and all the press/royal fans come out to support them and protect them against two people. I think we are being hoodwinked, how can a well-oiled, funded and staffed institution like the Royal family ever be the victims! I think the Royal Family could have easily protected H &M, think about how efficiently they kept the William affair largely out of the papers or certainly not on the front pages. The fact they didn't protect them makes me think Harry tells more truth than lies. But I am no fan of any of them and the only reason I don't want to get rid of them is because I fear we might one day end up with a president like Trump!

I agree

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 02/01/2023 19:50

Jackiewoo · 02/01/2023 19:36

But he couldn't get a job. He was a senior royal and any attempt to be independent would likely have had bad results yet somehow Wills managed to have a regular job in the air ambulance, and lived in a little house on Anglesey as a newlywed with minimum fuss.

(wonders how Prince Edward – the Earl of Wessex, not the Duke of Kent – managed for all those years in obscurity)

upinaballoon · 02/01/2023 19:50

Jackiewoo · 02/01/2023 19:36

But he couldn't get a job. He was a senior royal and any attempt to be independent would likely have had bad results yet somehow Wills managed to have a regular job in the air ambulance, and lived in a little house on Anglesey as a newlywed with minimum fuss.

...and Kate went shopping at the supermarket. I can't remember whether they lived in Wales before or after they lived in Nottingham Cottage, but I read that they called the latter NottCott, which sounds as if they might have had a bit of affection for the little house.

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 19:52

onlylarkin · 02/01/2023 19:46

How strange that they didn't think of that.

Oh wait....

Archewell Foundation

It takes money to create a charity. It also takes money to live. So while they are building a new life of charitable work , they need an income. The documentary, the book, everything up to now are steps to do exactly what you think they should do.

Harry said that he tried to do this privately/differently, but information was leaked. So here we are.

I said this months ago but it is still true. When a person watches every interview, reading the book, heck even reading the DM articles and posting on MN, they are participating in the very thing they want to fade into the background.

Hey, I'm not having a pop, was just stating how they make money from charity work.

I'm indifferent to them on a personal level.

I just shamelessly enjoy the drama that unfolds when they start talking, shots are fired and handbags at dawn begin.

I don't get out much 🤣

Ch3wylemon · 02/01/2023 19:53

It's all so tacky. Reminds me of Katie Price/Kerry Katina years ago making a career out of re-hashing insults. He's already had the Oprah interview, the book and now 2 new interviews due this month.

BornBlonde I think that's it.

Greatly · 02/01/2023 19:54

I think Meghan saw herself as a combo of Diana and Princess Grace of Monaco, America's 'original' actress-princess. I think as such, she saw herself 'eclipsing' all other royal women (ie, Kate) in popularity and publicity. She didn't reckon with Grace's dignity and style and Kate's position as wife of the heir presumptive (prior to the late Queen's demise) as factors in their popularity AND their places in the hierarchy and the PR machine.I think she expected a Hollywood style publicity machine working on her behalf as well as thinking she was going to have 'clout' as Harry's wife and as a 'celebrity' in her own right. I also think she bought into all the publicity around the engagement that trumpeted her as bringing 'fresh air' and 'American point of view' to the monarchy. I think she was very surprised to find she had no clout and that her ability to effect change was 'nil' and that she wasn't going to be allowed to capitalize, a la American Capitalism, on her position, either. Instead of adapting to the new life she chose or exiting with grace, she grabbed Harry and flounced.

I mean, surely this is all blindingly obvious

bakalava · 02/01/2023 19:56

So has the Liliwell Foundation been registered yet?

Roussette · 02/01/2023 19:57

What's that?

Coxspurplepippin · 02/01/2023 19:59

bakalava · 02/01/2023 19:56

So has the Liliwell Foundation been registered yet?

Grin
Roussette · 02/01/2023 20:01

Ahhh got it. It's one of those stupid play on words to take the piss out of them. Got it
Bit slow there obviously.

Serenster · 02/01/2023 20:02

I do find it darkly amusing that Harry, who clearly feels so bitterly that as the second-born he was the second-best child, doesn’t seem to have considered any potential future issues with having their entire charity and media empire named and branded for their oldest child only…

Justmuddlingalong · 02/01/2023 20:04

Or the irony of naming his second born after the head of such a horrendous institution as the one he's currently blaming for all his ills.

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 20:04

Serenster · 02/01/2023 20:02

I do find it darkly amusing that Harry, who clearly feels so bitterly that as the second-born he was the second-best child, doesn’t seem to have considered any potential future issues with having their entire charity and media empire named and branded for their oldest child only…

Indeed, it's as if poor namesake Lili is the dreaded "spare" 😳

I am sure they will come up with something for her though, well I hope so! Be a bit mean otherwise wouldn't it 🤣

adriftabroad · 02/01/2023 20:04

OrpingtonWings · 02/01/2023 17:57

😂😂

Brilliant! Hope KP see this 😂

Rockybooboo · 02/01/2023 20:07

bakalava · 02/01/2023 17:53

He's selling out his family for money it's really repulsive.

That was the reason why she married him, in a nutshell

Did you have a crush on Prince Harry because you really seem fixated on his wife?

bakalava · 02/01/2023 20:09

Rockybooboo · 02/01/2023 20:07

Did you have a crush on Prince Harry because you really seem fixated on his wife?

No. Do you?

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