It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working

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The Princess of Wales barely outworked Queen Elizabeth who died in early September after cancelling a series of engagements.

Charles and Anne look to be carrying the monarchy at present. The Earl and Countess of Wessex are grafting hard as well.

What do William and Kate spend their days doing? Surely as young energetic members of the RF, they should be pulling their weight.

Not for a long time now.

Exactly.

And I'm taken aback with posters who still insist they are working hard. It is proven they do less or the same as a 78 year old and 86 year old, whilst probably having far far more staff, and that is bad. And I don 't know how anyone can justify it by such nonsense as... they probably travel further, they go on overseas trips blah blah. Everything is done for them. They just have to turn up. I am disappointed that the two people who could make such a vast difference by innovative thinking and hard work just aren't doing it.

How much longer will the 'we're bringing the children up' last? They're at school! And they have a month at Christmas with them, two months summer Balmoral and a foreign holiday, a month at Easter. The last engagement for William was 15th December, before that 6th December

So many people seem happy with a nice dress and a picture of the children. William should be working his arse off. Or Kate should. Or a mixture of both of them.

I have little interest in the royals one way or another

Exactly the way they like it.

Try leaving them alone and getting on with your own life?

All the time they're receiving untold amounts of public funding to be the public face of Britain there's a legitimate public interest in their behaviour.

@Roussette yet many of the same people would be playing a very different tune if it was Harry or Meghan who were accused of laziness. They're not funded by the taxpayer so I don't really care what they do but when it comes to them suddenly everyone's an expert on charitable foundations or tax arrangements in Delaware! How about using some of those forensic investigator skills to look at what it is the royals we do pay for get up to?

Oh god yes. @AnnunciataZ

I wish posters would look at what our own taxpayer funded RF are doing as opposed to two people doing their own thing and funding themselves thousands of miles away.
Let's dissect the Duchies more, the Sovereign Grant, the opacity of royal finances, the lack of taxes, the Paradise papers and millions stashed in overseas accounts and offshore tax investments by the Queen and now the King no doubt. Where's the interest in this? People are apathetic.

(yes... I've heard it all before, H&M are dissing the RF, they're washing dirty linen in public, they're making money off the RF by saying they were mistreated yada yada. Maybe, just maybe, the RF do need a light shone on them. Just a thought)

So do it! Everything public should be open for scrutiny.

Hahaha. These posts about how much 'work' the RF have done and do has me in stitches. Can you not see that they are a bunch of entitled parasites who do sweet FA? But no, you'll all go on cooing and ahing like a load of twits. Honestly I thought we were meant to be an intelligent species......

@CriticalAlert I agree with you - the Royal public relations staff do a good job on some people. Other people like to use their critical faculties and can see the reality of their indulged, lazy lifestyles and their minimal so called 'work'. I don't think the Royals will get such an easy ride once the current elderly generation are no longer around.

@Roussette I've just finished the chapter about royal wills in Baker's book and have to pick my jaw up from the floor. How did Princess Margaret and the Queen Mum amass fortunes of £20m and £70m respectively? And with all that wealth the royals pay their staff a pittance? It's actually disgusting.

Poor love. It must take days to recover after having to rub shoulders with us plebs.

But the number of ‘active engagements’ per person doesn’t really tell you anything.

An engagement could be a 10 minute phone or zoom call. Or it could be an all day meet and greet, make small talk with countless random people, constantly be aware of photographers/journalists type thing.

FWIW I couldn’t think of anything worse than having to spend hours talking to strangers, and being constantly on guard re the media, and under constant scrutiny.

@AnnunciataZ I know! It is truly gobsmacking. The Queen Mother left huge debts (she never paid anyone anything apparently) along with a massive fortune. She left a lot in Trusts and the rest to the Queen to avoid IHT. The Queen (who had a fortune of £657million. Another report says £3billion. Who knows) will have left it all to Charles, (unless tax free Trusts to other members of the RF were set up) again to avoid IHT because sovereign to sovereign avoids that tax.

And this...
In 2019, it was reported vast tracts of the UK seabed owned by The Crown Estate were being auctioned off to create the world’s biggest wind power development. This meant the Queen and Co. were set to reap a huge windfall, and by 2030, were poised to make up to $150 million each year from this project alone, The Guardian reported.
Reports also suggest the Queen also holds an investment portfolio worth up to about $952 million. In addition, she is said to have had one of the world’s greatest stamp collections, valued at $190 million.

The wealth sloshing around in the RF is incredible.

What is often forgotten is that C & W will have no retirement like for us regular folk. The older they get, more they will have to do. So whilst their DC are young, they are allowed to take it bit easier. I don't begrudge them having that.

Calling people parasites is really nasty and dehumanising. I don't understand how no-one ever calls this out.

Well it might be nasty but in this case it's true I'm afraid. Have you read the other posts and seen how much the RF is worth? Where do you think they got that wealth from??? The backs of the poor that's where. If they opened up their extensive properties for the homeless I would change my view of them. But they won't because they couldn't care less. They're not worried about paying their fuel bills. They and people who support them make me sick TBH.

This is how I see it tbh.
Might as well take time off now, because there’s no retiring age

Because this is a republican echo chamber.

I wonder of William's test drive of an Aston Martin will count as an engagement?

Oh give over. They will hardly be slogging their guts out on the checkouts at Asda now, will they?

I suspect given the fact the Queen was ageing and looking unwell they probably focuses on putting Charles at the front of most engagements ready to become King. You don't want to start your reign in the shadow of your son/ daughter in law. It was a year of making Charles a favourite and Edward in the hope everyone would forget Andrew ever existed!

I doubt very much that Kate will do more engagements as she gets older anyway. William will be forced to do a bit more, but I doubt it will be that many.

One doesn't need to be supportive of monarchy to recognise it's nasty and dehumanising to refer people as parasites.

It's also lazy and cliched to shout the royal family should house homeless in their many properties. Where do you draw a line? Anyone with any wealth should house homeless? Or just the RF as your hatred is focused on the? Housing homeless in properties of historical value isn't really a solution.

Because this is a republican echo chamber.

You must be joking!

I see more monarchists than republicans on Mumsnet.

Anyone could work at Asda checkout but not everyone could discuss current affairs with PM or meet head of states from other countries. I also don't know any 94 year olds who still work at a supermarket checkout.