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It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working

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tatalan · 31/12/2022 09:14

The Princess of Wales barely outworked Queen Elizabeth who died in early September after cancelling a series of engagements.

Charles and Anne look to be carrying the monarchy at present. The Earl and Countess of Wessex are grafting hard as well.

What do William and Kate spend their days doing? Surely as young energetic members of the RF, they should be pulling their weight.

It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working
It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working
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Susanthehappytrottingelf · 01/01/2023 09:48

There's always an excuse with them:

Kate is still adjusting
They have young children
They moved house

They are just lazy! It doesn't take two of them to raise their kids with the help they have

AreOttersJustWetCats · 01/01/2023 10:00

pilates · 01/01/2023 09:12

The Queen only died in September and you’re saying Kate is lazy and not doing enough 🤨 Surely official engagements are organised many months in advance. I bet if she was doing loads of engagements she would be criticised for neglecting her children. Whatever Kate and William do will never be enough for some of you as you clearly dislike them and enjoy picking holes. Sad and pathetic.

Prince Philip retired from royal duties 3.5 years before his death, and the Queen was gradually stepping back from her duties in the lead up to her death too (no criticism, this was obviously due to her health). I would expect younger royals to have been filling those gaps.

AreOttersJustWetCats · 01/01/2023 10:02

I also agree with PP that being a parent isn't "work" when you have the level of help that they have. All the mundane drudgery of life is outsourced so they only do the fun bits. That's fine, but let's stop pretending that Kate and Wiliam are similarly busy to the average working parents.

AnnunciataZ · 01/01/2023 10:17

Just looking at that chart in the OP and the Duke of Gloucester only did 7 events less than William and he's far further down the line of succession and is nearly 80! I've always felt a bit sorry for him as he's a trained architect who had a job in a London partnership that he had to give up when his brother died and he became the heir.

CathyorClaire · 01/01/2023 11:17

It’s all about impact and the visits they go take months of prep work to ensure maximum impact for the charities.

Months of prep work? No wonder so few charities see 'their' royal darken their door from one year to another.

Do you have a link for it taking months of preparation and the details of who does the preparing?

If it's 'all about impact' they may need to rethink their strategy as it's long been shown that royal patronages have little to no effect on charitable income.

Roussette · 01/01/2023 11:47

If it's 'all about impact' they may need to rethink their strategy as it's long been shown that royal patronages have little to no effect on charitable income

Exactly. And I could link my favourite report to show this. Yes, to a feelgood factor. No to increased donations.

AnnunciataZ · 01/01/2023 11:49

I actually can't think of anything they've done that matches the impact of the Prince's Trust, DoE Awards or even Invictus. If they're all about impact then surely there'd be some evidence of it by now?

Roussette · 01/01/2023 11:56

Those 3 iniatives stand as a beacon of what can be done. Is William's passion 'Earthshot'?

AuroraCake · 01/01/2023 12:24

CathyorClaire · 01/01/2023 11:17

It’s all about impact and the visits they go take months of prep work to ensure maximum impact for the charities.

Months of prep work? No wonder so few charities see 'their' royal darken their door from one year to another.

Do you have a link for it taking months of preparation and the details of who does the preparing?

If it's 'all about impact' they may need to rethink their strategy as it's long been shown that royal patronages have little to no effect on charitable income.

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a41854339/prince-william-kate-middleton-scarborough-royal-visit/

It is a new way of doing things apparently but won’t be all visits. I guess the foundation is working with the charities for months before hand. They day was worth a few 100 thousand to them.

when they do, they go for the whole day. Not that I am in any way denigrating the work of Anne but she walks into a room and put again and that is an engagement.

But yes they do need to turn up more and press the flesh.

Lampzade · 01/01/2023 12:35

Susanthehappytrottingelf · 01/01/2023 09:48

There's always an excuse with them:

Kate is still adjusting
They have young children
They moved house

They are just lazy! It doesn't take two of them to raise their kids with the help they have

There have always been issues with Kate’s lack of work ethic so I don’t know why some posters are trying to rewrite history.
She left university and didn’t do much after that. The papers who have bestowed sainthood on her are the same papers who constantly called her ‘work shy’ and ‘lazy’.
The truth is that members of the RF have to do more to justify their existence.
I expect both Kate and William to increase their official engagements this year.
The children are in school/ nursery and they has access to a nanny, housekeeper etc.

Susanthehappytrottingelf · 01/01/2023 13:53

Lampzade · 01/01/2023 12:35

There have always been issues with Kate’s lack of work ethic so I don’t know why some posters are trying to rewrite history.
She left university and didn’t do much after that. The papers who have bestowed sainthood on her are the same papers who constantly called her ‘work shy’ and ‘lazy’.
The truth is that members of the RF have to do more to justify their existence.
I expect both Kate and William to increase their official engagements this year.
The children are in school/ nursery and they has access to a nanny, housekeeper etc.

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Why would they step it up this year? They gave legions of adoring fans to explain why their life is so hard that they can't possibly

VladmirsPoutine · 01/01/2023 14:02

Good for Kate tbh, all she wanted was to be Queen which she will be; shaking hands with commoners and smiling at babies is rather tedious and if I could get out of it I would too tbh.

Walnutwhipsarenothesame · 01/01/2023 14:05

How do you know all she wanted was to be Queen? Unless you know her how could you possibly be sure of that? My guess is she loves William and wanted to be with him. The rest of it was a necessary nuisance.

VladmirsPoutine · 01/01/2023 14:09

Her pursuit of William / uni, waiting for proposal. It's not a criticism - William had to have a wife so she got in with the winning team.

Goldpaw · 01/01/2023 14:55

Just over a year ago Kate visited the Lake District for the day.

It was apparently to "showcase the benefits of spending time in nature".

She mountain biked and abseiled, opened an adventure training centre, then had a trip on a restored boat whilst talking to victims of the holocaust.

Apparently she was "absolutely delightful".

But it's hardly work, is it?

Lake District visit

handbagsandholidays · 01/01/2023 14:58

tatalan · 31/12/2022 09:31

Even the numbers are suspect, I remember a member of the royal rota claiming they counted 4 calls that took place in the span of a couple of hours as four separate engagements. I wonder how often that happens.

All the time I suspect. It's ridiculous.

pilates · 01/01/2023 17:09

tatalan · Yesterday 09:31
“Even the numbers are suspect, I remember a member of the royal rota claiming they counted 4 calls that took place in the span of a couple of hours as four separate engagements. I wonder how often that happens.”

How and where do you obtain all this information? It’s a tad obsessive or is it a hobby of yours?

Blossomtoes · 01/01/2023 17:50

AnnunciataZ · 01/01/2023 10:17

Just looking at that chart in the OP and the Duke of Gloucester only did 7 events less than William and he's far further down the line of succession and is nearly 80! I've always felt a bit sorry for him as he's a trained architect who had a job in a London partnership that he had to give up when his brother died and he became the heir.

He’s achieved far more as a working royal than he ever could have done as a partner in an architectural practice. A quick read of his Wiki page is a real eye opener.

CathyorClaire · 01/01/2023 20:02

I guess the foundation is working with the charities for months before hand. They day was worth a few 100 thousand to them.

Well, there's nothing in the link to confirm that and the sources of the funds are as ever vague.

It does seem to confirm however that the much vaunted 'charitable work' royalists love to trot out on their behalf often seems to take place on their own pet projects a number of which duplicate work already being done.

Makes you wonder if their charitable roles are manufactured to give them the appearance of having something to do.

AuroraCake · 01/01/2023 20:35

CathyorClaire · 01/01/2023 20:02

I guess the foundation is working with the charities for months before hand. They day was worth a few 100 thousand to them.

Well, there's nothing in the link to confirm that and the sources of the funds are as ever vague.

It does seem to confirm however that the much vaunted 'charitable work' royalists love to trot out on their behalf often seems to take place on their own pet projects a number of which duplicate work already being done.

Makes you wonder if their charitable roles are manufactured to give them the appearance of having something to do.

Yes there is. It says some precise fogure over 300,000 pou ds. How it was raised and how it will be distributed.

Unless I read that somewhere else. I am sure it can be looked up easily.

C1umsyGiraffe · 01/01/2023 20:39

Those stats also aren't accurate, google it.

BradfordGirl · 01/01/2023 21:00

pilates · 01/01/2023 17:09

tatalan · Yesterday 09:31
“Even the numbers are suspect, I remember a member of the royal rota claiming they counted 4 calls that took place in the span of a couple of hours as four separate engagements. I wonder how often that happens.”

How and where do you obtain all this information? It’s a tad obsessive or is it a hobby of yours?

A Royal Tour often counts the Royal Family member coming off the plane and being welcomed by a VIP as one engagement. It is why I think they like tours, it is really easy for them to get a lot of engagements in a short space of time.

CathyorClaire · 01/01/2023 21:44

Yes there is. It says some precise fogure over 300,000 pou ds. How it was raised and how it will be distributed.

To clarify. Nothing to confirm months worth of preparatory work.

AuroraCake · 01/01/2023 23:07

CathyorClaire · 01/01/2023 21:44

Yes there is. It says some precise fogure over 300,000 pou ds. How it was raised and how it will be distributed.

To clarify. Nothing to confirm months worth of preparatory work.

Thst is what I remember reading at the time. I have little interest in it but people were saying about their work and aid heard this trip to Scarborough was the first in a new formula. That is the first article that came up this time when I googled it. Probably originally in one of previous many of the papers.

if people have other numbers I’d love to hear them.

it is obvious their will be less turning up to open youth centres from now on but yes W and K need to be seen more.

Goldpaw · 01/01/2023 23:20

It's the working together for months beforehand that you've just imagined @AuroraCake - the article doesn't say anything about what the Royal Foundations role was.

It does say the local organisation decided how the money was to be spent, and that it was local people and organisations who donated the money.

Perhaps the RF acted as consultants as to how best to get money out of people - that would be believable! 😂