It's shocking how much harder the older Royals are working

[tatalan]

The Princess of Wales barely outworked Queen Elizabeth who died in early September after cancelling a series of engagements.

Charles and Anne look to be carrying the monarchy at present. The Earl and Countess of Wessex are grafting hard as well.

What do William and Kate spend their days doing? Surely as young energetic members of the RF, they should be pulling their weight.

‘Their visit to Scarborough, in Yorkshire, on Thursday saw their Royal Foundation charity pilot a Community Impact Day, showing how their profile can help organisations in deprived areas raise much-needed funding.
William and Kate, both 40, revealed during the “extremely significant” visit that £345,000 had been raised through a collaboration between the Royal Foundation and the local Two Ridings Community Foundation.’

I am not sure how long people think it would take for the organisations to fund this amount of money and set things up. They will have been working behind the scenes on it for quite a while. At the time I remember reading it said it all all visits could be like this because of the time involved in preparing for it by their teams.

Sorry but local people and organisations donated the money, credit to the community not the Royal Foundation. Those folks did the hard work, for Wills and Kate to take credit, shameful.

The Queen, old as she was, was en route to overtaking a 40 year old in terms of royal engagements. She died in September and would clearly have beaten Kate's numbers.

Why was a 96 year old outworking a 40 year old?!

I am sure the organisations did a lot of work. No indication from that what William or Kate personally did

@tatalan my gran worked until she was 95 and only stopped when the pain got too bad. She had kept from us the pain and the cancer was only diagnosed towards the end. There was no way any of the family could have stopped her from working. She lived and breathed her work and was stubborn. None of us know what goes on behind closed doors do we? Not sure what you are trying to achieve @tatalan other than stirring up hatred?

I don't think it's "stirring up hatred" to ask questions about how much work the future monarchs are doing.

This isn’t the first thread @tatalan has started, another one being Kate has spent £176,000 on her outfits.

Probably not a lot. But that is the way all these things work. It is their staff that prep all their events, tours, speeches. So obviously it is relation to their workload. Does anyone think any of them are there putting work in behind the scenes?

Will was very late to the game for an heir to the throne - by comparison both his father and younger brother had much more substantial projects and public work underway by their early 30s.

William worked full time as an air ambulance pilot for many years though.

How exactly is this stirring up hatred? William and Kate's work record is plainly woeful. That's just facts.

They were never full time in Malta - they were there for a few months at a time for less than two years. By 1951 with a 3 yr old and 1 yr old the Queen was pretty much the full time stand in and during the Malta period they were covering the overseas engagements and some back home.

The Queen was often quoted as looking back on this period in Malta as the most "normal" married life but it was very brief in reality.

Even the CAA were not having being used as an excuse for William slacking.

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In defence of the future king, Kensington Palace sources have said the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) has rules on rest periods, therefore William is not allowed to do any type of work on his off days.

However, the CAA has come back saying that those claims are untrue and that pilots are free to do what they wish on their rest days, including holding another paying job, as long as they aren’t flying an aircraft.

In 2015, The Duke of Cambridge made 87 public appearances in the U.K and 35 overseas which many are comparing to the 94-year-old Duke of Edinburgh who made 128 more than his grandson.

On average, William works 80 hours a month as a pilot for East Anglian Air Ambulance on a four days on, four days off rota, where pilots work about 8.5 hours per shift. A full-time pilot works around 120-130 hours per month, which would put the prince in at two-thirds of their time.

A royal source said that William has a restricted number of royal engagements that he can carry out because “there are mandatory rest days enforced by the CAA, when you’re not meant to go off and do other work because it’s not rest”.

A spokesman for the CAA said that the palace staff are “confused”, saying: “It’s true that you can only work a certain number of hours in any given period, but to suggest that pilots can’t do anything else on some rest days is totally unenforceable.

“When they are having rest days their time is their own, and they can do what they want, including carrying out royal duties.

“We check pilots’ shift patterns and the Duke is fully complying with CAA rules within the rota he is working, so his days off are his own.”

He added that CAA rules state that pilots cannot fly more than 800 hours in a 12-month period.

How exactly is this stirring up hatred? William and Kate's work record is plainly woeful. That's just facts.

All you have to go on really is one chart. Unless you know them personally and see them on a regular basis then you don't really know them or how hard they work. The media like to make us feel like we are "well informed" because we read what they choose to publish about people. But in reality all we know is the small piece of the puzzle that the media choose to present to us at any one time.

Although with full time tax payer funded transportation at your beck and call a quick trip to Uganda isn't difficult to organise!

*In 2015, The Duke of Cambridge made 87 public appearances in the U.K and 35 overseas which many are comparing to the 94-year-old Duke of Edinburgh who made 128 more than his grandson.

On average, William works 80 hours a month as a pilot for East Anglian Air Ambulance on a four days on, four days off rota, where pilots work about 8.5 hours per shift. A full-time pilot works around 120-130 hours per month, which would put the prince in at two-thirds of their time.*

So William did 80 hours a month in a highly stressful and demanding job and still did 122 public engagements?
That sounds like a busy enough life to me 🤷🏽‍♀️
I have little interest in the royals one way or another but both the levels of spite and adoration levelled at them baffle me.
Try leaving them alone and getting on with your own life?

Oh come on, the palaces have full time and very expensive PR machines feeding the press all the time. The press are far more cautious in writing about "the firm" than regular celebs or even lower status royals as they fear losing that feed of "lovely family snaps by Kate" etc.

The younger generation of royals in general seems to lack the work and service ethic of the older generations that you see not just in Queen/Philip, Anne etc but in the Kents, Gloucesters and others. That seems to be the last generation with general sense of noblesse obliges. Its mighty patchy below the Queen's generation.

I don't particularly care about that for the offspring of the non working second cousins - have no illusions about tax avoidance schemes for wealthy aristocrats but I'm not directly funding them.

However the core working royals should be precisely that - working. Similarly if Andrew wants his girls to have the pomp and privilege and titles associated with senior royal status they need to do something for it.

I've often wondered if the rift in the family had as much to do with Harry's service ethic (which was clear and visible) combined with Meghan bringing the usual Hollywood work ethic - the Cambridges were never going to fare well in that comparison.

The Serf-ness of this entire post 😂

The RF are blessed with such sycophants 😀

It's astounding what an easy ride people given the Waleses. Kate shows up in a nice frock, the kids are wheeled out for a photo, job done!

William did less than two years in that job and some of his colleagues would raise their eyebrows at the "full time".

A comparison of the number of missions per pilot across those two years might be interesting as he was regularly unavailable due to royal duties (such as spending Christmas as Sandringham). I don't see any issue with him being part time royal and part time helicopter crew - its the claim that he is both which is stretching the point.

I don't doubt that William did good work in his time with the air ambulance. But it's a bit pointless arguing about that as he left in 2017 to be a full-time working royal. Why hasn't he done more engagements in the last 5 years then?

I least thought he was part time but info here says he actually worked 2/3 of full time.

Why does it matter? As for B and E. They aren’t funded and don’t work for the royals. They do charity work but it’s off their own volition.

William did less than two years in that job and some of his colleagues would raise their eyebrows at the "full time". I've watched an interview with one of his ex colleagues who thought he was tremendous.

Well they were hardly going to say she was rubbish, were they?

*he

Andrew has consistently pushed for high profile roles for his daughters and their substantial security costs and travel costs and expenses were being met by the tax payer until relatively recently (I think they no longer qualify but ICBW).