If you watched all of Netflix H&M

[antelopevalley]

I have finally watched all episodes. It was much better than I was expecting and bore no resemblance to what was talked about for hours and hours by some posters on here.
I am interested in discussing the programme with people who have watched it all. What struck me was:

1. Harry clearly says Charles leaked the content of Harrys private letter to Charles, to the press.
2. William when younger had agreed with Harry that neither of them would behave as Charles had with his press office. But William went back on that and behaved the same way.
3. The Palace leaked the location of where Harry and Meghan were staying in Canada.
4. The small number of social media accounts run by mainly white middle-aged women who push hate for both of them but especially Meghan.
5. The myth that Meghan is controlling Harry is recognised by him as misogyny.

I think they were clearly right to leave.

they could very clearly have made it very clear our kids are off limits.

It's funny to me that the the house was afforded more privacy than the children.

You would raise a lot more if you did not spend all that money flying horses around the world or Harry for that matter by PJ. What an utter nonsense.

It does not cost 1.2M to ferry horses around. Especially when your friends can arrange a free flight for that.

Well that is the amount Sentebale received. Not counting the local charities.

of course who knows - but I do suspect it was a factor that Meghan markle all of a sudden realised how absolutely boring and painful opening hospital wings was going to be.

How can you say this when MM explained about the birth and step? Really, I would like to know. Please do answer me.

For Gods sake she had a night nanny. She lives in luxury with no expense spared.
She wasn’t a single mother living on benefits in a high rise flat.
No new mother needs to take a private jet to a luxury destination .

'It's theirs to milk.' Not when it involves slagging off other people - tabloids, fair game, but to make a living by continually having a pop at your family? I notice they don't seem to talk about their relationship with the Markles, even after the pre-wedding shit show. Could it possibly be because they recognise the viewers aren't remotely interested in the Markles - all they're interested in is the poop on the royals.

@ZeViteVitchofCwismas you are delightfully naive

in 1997 he inherited I think about 10km ll ion usd from
his mothers estate. Plus other inheritances.

wisely invested you can grow that whilst still spending a shipload without a Netflix doco.

😅 more food for the taxman.
You would be surprised how much it costs to maintain an haras. Let alone flying and ferrying the horses and the staff around.
You seem to know your PR Sentebale charity numbers though so I am sure you must know!

@notanotheroneagain ehat you think she therefore developed a phobia for hospital wings?

okay. Fine. I think she discovered how boring it would be to open garden centres. Or new lifeboat stations. Or unveil a plaque for the new community slippery dip at the arse end of nowhere.

as said - I am very anti royalty. But I also have a lot of respect for the way the queen shaped the role it played in celebrating every day unglamorous events.

I watched it all with an open mind. Unfortunately they chose to make it extremely one sided - I mean who on earth goes on about their children and other years and then does not mention her first marriage! You could hardly make up how biased it was. She has had two love stories - one with the first husband and now one with the second so I am not sure why wiping one out as if it never happened is going t make people think the programme is unbiased.

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"Harry clearly says Charles leaked the content of Harrys private letter to Charles, to the press." Yes he says that. That of course may well be untrue.

"William when younger had agreed with Harry that neither of them would behave as Charles had with his press office. But William went back on that and behaved the same way." Harry said that but we have no proof they agreed that nor that William did what was said.

"The Palace leaked the location of where Harry and Meghan were staying in Canada." That may haev been alleged but that does not make it true. There are a lot of things said there and on Oprah which have been proven to be untrue so unfortunately that diminishes the credibility of the how. Eg I understand from press reports that at the time alleged William did not text Harry and yet the programme implies he did and he was live filmed when he did.

"The small number of social media accounts run by mainly white middle-aged women who push hate for both of them but especially Meghan." I don't think any of the people who are not too keen on the lack of truth emanating from the couple are small numbers. Vast numbers of people in the UK and abroad are not so keen on the couple now given what they have done. There may well be some social media accounts as described just as there may be proH&M such accounts however.,

"The myth that Meghan is controlling Harry is recognised by him as misogyny." He is free to make his own very unwise choices. I am happy to blame him as much as Meghan for what he does although if you look at the way he interacts with her when they are filmed and how she fell out with most of her family and he seems now to have done the same that does seem to come from how she handles relatives not from how he does.

@Wanderingoff I'm not naïve at all.
I invest!

If you invest you also know you don't use your capital?

Sentable polo raised 1.1m but cost 500k so raised 600k for charity in 2021 (these numbers are taken from the Sentable charities own financials)

The polo nets between 600-750k (pre pandemic) but the costs of the event were 800k pre pandemic. I’ve no idea how a polo event could cost that much ?

I do remember antelope being all over the wales charity for less. Perhaps she could start a new thread on this ?

Barry from Slough 🤣🤣🤣

Please don't encourage it!

Xenia....her older siblings are mad and grabbing onto her coat tales.
Her dad seems narcissistic.

Is she allowed to say...no more?

What bonds could Harry have with his family?

How much time did he actually spend with his dad? Has Charles sacrificed or put Harry first, ever?

What does Camilla do aside from attending parties with Megan's no 1 hate preacher there?

Who are these amazing relatives?

Harry seems to have done 100 time's more than William.

Invictus games and African charities.

welo of course - becaue now millions of people will have an increased interest in seeing what they look like as they grow up.

And they, of course, will get them as and when the couple want. It won't be forced.

Their supporters had been craving the babies pics for a while now and I'm sure they are happy. To me this was a balanced mix of respect for the supporters who have been positively curious about the kids.

it’s so odd - the Netflix was all about how awful it was for Harry being papped as a child.

That's the whole point. They had no choice.

H&M now get to pick and choose what they share - which is no recent face pics and events that took place ages ago (as and when they want)

As for you praising the Cambriges, maybe they are happy for people to see their DC now, as how they look currently. But are they actually happy for the Fail to make money off their DC via a calendar?

What a sensible person would have done is draw a line under the boring job they quit (but quietly benefit from some of the expected perks) and built bridges with their father after Fate landed them back much closer to him geographically. People would have thought a lot more highly of her for that. The wingeing is just immature and bitter and excessive in proportion to her five minutes of service.

Kate received a lot of flack but the main thing which endeared her to the media was her strong family bonds and humble demeanour.

@bakalava ..how on earth could they build bridges with him,he chose to sell them out. ..

Whatever they say to him won't be enough and he will spill the press.

Canadians will not pull security without the RF say so.

H&M received communication from the RF telling them they are pulling security and money and they had 3 weeks to pack up and go.

While I have no idea how quick and what signatures are needed for Harry to receive his investments etc. - I believe Charles has to sign them off as he was a minor when Diana died. Charles was not taking his calls anyway.

RF connections does not guarantee Netflix and Spotify hits. You must have content they deem worthy.

Wasn't some royal refused by them at some point anyway.

And I'm quite sure there are atleast a couple of other royals with podcasts, I don't think they even make the top 10 tbf.

@notanotheroneagain the royal family would have absolutely no influence or power over the allocation of public funds for royal security in Canada. At all. Such expenditure is accountable to the Canadian parliamentary process.

the issue of private security funding is a separate one and who knows what happened there. I recall Harry said that he didn’t tell his family they had left Canada. I suspect that there was a catastrophic and monumental break down in communications. I’m sure with fault on both sides.

possibly they couLd have returned to Britain and security. Who knows.

what I do think is that the line that the royal family “pulled security” and callously left them at risk is highly highly unlikely to be an accurate and realistic statement in what happened.

I also think that what they are doing across various projects is dripfeeding and who trusts a dripfeeder? If you really feel that an injustice has been served you would want to get it off your chest in one go, not allocate the juicy bits among various lucrative deals (unless you are happy to stand accused of playing the US media, the British media and the viewing public for personal gain).

For Gods sake she had a night nanny. She lives in luxury with no expense spared.
She wasn’t a single mother living on benefits in a high rise flat.

Which means what ? She cannot be hormonal or wake up for feeding etc? Or suffer from baby blues ?

@notanotheroneagain well indeed - and the worthy content was entirely about themselves as royals.

meg and Barry from slough bitching about their posh SIL and declaring their never before seen live for each other wouldn’t pull many viewers would it?

they make their extreme wealth from their association with an unelected - and by their accounts massively racist - aristocratic family. This is inconsistent with pontificating about democracy and liberal values.

this is not to say that they could not do good things. But I think even you would struggle to say that the Netflix doc created any good for anyone besides Harry and Meghan.

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