If you watched all of Netflix H&M

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I have finally watched all episodes. It was much better than I was expecting and bore no resemblance to what was talked about for hours and hours by some posters on here.
I am interested in discussing the programme with people who have watched it all. What struck me was:

1. Harry clearly says Charles leaked the content of Harrys private letter to Charles, to the press.
2. William when younger had agreed with Harry that neither of them would behave as Charles had with his press office. But William went back on that and behaved the same way.
3. The Palace leaked the location of where Harry and Meghan were staying in Canada.
4. The small number of social media accounts run by mainly white middle-aged women who push hate for both of them but especially Meghan.
5. The myth that Meghan is controlling Harry is recognised by him as misogyny.

I think they were clearly right to leave.

Did you watch the series? They are doing perfectly fine, even better now.

The only time they were unprepared and left to set adrift was when they were with the RF. And I have to say MM pulled off her duties very well.

But their wealth predominantly comes from the connection with the uk aristocracy - either directly through Harry’s money or by association.

it is the hypocrisy of banging on about demon racy and equality whilst clearly living and grasping for a very materialistically privileged life.

it’s annoying.

BUT it is also not even remotely evil or morally bankrupt.

the British press and other members of the royal and political uk elite have done far worse things. So there is quite obviously a double standard.

but at the end of the day the reality is thst they could have chosen a relatively private life for them
and their children. Instead they have invaded the privacy of their children in a much more personal way than the Cambridge’s.

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But their wealth predominantly comes from the connection with the uk aristocracy - either directly through Harry’s money or by association.

Spotify/Netflix/Archewell have nothing to with the RF. Sorry, but the RF is powerful in the UK, but they don't dominate the whole world.

@notanotheroneagain you can’t honestly think that Netflix would have done a documentary on the actress Meghan markle or Oprah would have done an interview with them if Harry was her British boyfriend Barry who was a plumber from Slough??

they only have the very high profile that they do because of the royal family connection. It is ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

and Harry has in himself done nothing whatsoever of note outside of the royal connection?

@Wanderingoff and ?

That's Harry's birth right, nothing can remove that.

I think his position at his grandma's funeral showed that as he stormed down the mall center place behind her coffin.

He will always be "royals" even if there was a way to ban him from everything and strip every title under the sun... he would still be royal, brother to the future king,once 3rs from the throne...son of the king etc.

Surely it's a small pay off for being born into that snake pit...paraded about since say one....

• mean to bold your text in the above quote.

Also
but at the end of the day the reality is thst they could have chosen a relatively private life for them
and their children. Instead they have invaded the privacy of their children in a much more personal way than the Cambridge’s.

I think they deliberately did not show much of the children's faces, and stayed away from latest pics because A&L are at that growing stage where their looks would have changed from when they were babies and tots.

Archie has changed so much over the years, I bet if you saw him today with someone else, you would not recognise him.

Nobody asked to see them so there is no point in showing the odd hand, ear or blurred photo. They are like every other kid out in LA. They would not be recognised even if she did show more of their faces. A bit like Charlotte or Louis out of context.

@ZeViteVitchofCwismas the point is thst there is at the very least no acknowledgement or self awareness of this as they pontificate on global equality and democracy etc

its like their sermonisingnin climate change whilst laughing about how many air miles they clocked up as a couple

the point is that they want to make money (a LOT of money) from having a brand which sets out all these values that are clearly in complete contradiction to so many elements of their life.

again - their far from evil - but they are hypocrites with very little apparent self awareness

I am very anti the monarchy as a concept - however I recognise the massive emotional value it has for people across all sectors of society in the UK. Both of them - whilst professing to be wonderful caring charitable people - have shat all over this emotional importance of the royal family.

of course who knows - but I do suspect it was a factor that Meghan markle all of a sudden realised how absolutely boring and painful opening hospital wings was going to be.

i also think harry used her as his vehicle to blow up his relationship with his family. I’m sure his family were also awful for sure. But they have maintained their privacy.

They've both lied, over and over. Never trust a proven liar.

it’s not that they’ve showed their faces. It’s that they have chosen to share their private emotional family experiences in their childhood with the whole world - which unsurprisingly make the whole world feel personally invested in their childrens lives. Awful thing to do to your young children.

make the whole world feel personally invested in their childrens lives.

They tried to do this but luckily or unluckily (depending on your pov) it never generated that interest.

Invested in children whom they don't know what they look like now?

@Wanderingoff

Who has maintained their privacy?

Surely not Harry's parents? ..

Not Andrew etc...

Yes I wholeheartedly agree on the preaching air miles.... dreadful..all celebs that do it and I include William in that.

I actually think they don’t show the children faces because they want Charles in particular to feel upset that he can’t see what his own grandchildren look like. I think it’s a deliberate ploy. Along with the birthday shots , because Charles is never at the parties. Horrible:

Unfortunately it Seems Charles doesn't want to support them as he does Camilla's DC or Andrew etc so they have to make money to pay for security.

You would raise a lot more if you did not spend all that money flying horses around the world or Harry for that matter by PJ. What an utter nonsense. All in the name of a charity that gets a fraction of what they spend to justify themselves.
You can go and play polo all you want, but please don't come around telling me that people do it for charity 😅

@notanotheroneagain welo of course - becaue now millions of people will have an increased interest in seeing what they look like as they grow up.

it’s so odd - the Netflix was all about how awful it was for Harry being papped as a child. And they’ve taken their children to another country. And then actively taken steps to include tbeir children in the narrative of their “brand”.

they could very clearly have made it very clear out kids are off limits. Of course that would have only done so much. But they have done the complete opposite.

i think the Cambridge’s have actually managed their childrens privacy so far quite well. Just as a comparison. (To be clear I’m not fans of theirs either - but I think they have shown greater care to manage the reality of their childrens future lives and the narrative around it)

The only reason they've been able to persuade Spotify and Netflix to work with them is because of their connection to the royal family, and because of them slagging off the royal family - all the salacious gossip, all the unverified claims. I'm not sure they're making enough out of Archewell to maintain their current lifestyle, and again, the charity would be unknown if it wasn't for their royal connections. They're milking it for all it's worth.

Yes I wholeheartedly agree on the preaching air miles.... dreadful..all celebs that do it and I include William in that.

But also, we discussed this so many times on here, when H made his environmental speech it was to millionaire who had flown in via private jet. He was promoting Travelyst, which allows people to fly private but promotes that you make sure you offset.

Reports are that the private jets they take are offset as per his organisation stance. Elton John tried to explain this, and talked about security reasons too. The BM shut him down, so they could vilify H&M. Not only did the RF allow that, and not explain, they then pulled a failed budget airline stunt to kick them more while they are down. They were new mums at that time, and EJ explained he just wanted to give a possibly baby blues/ night feeding new mum a break.

Can't believe people still go back to this.

It's theirs to milk.

William and Kate have managed nothing around theirs DC lives it's all been as expected!

Harry and Megan have done it their way.

You forgot the backpacks of food given to the homeless while ferrying around the journalist from The Cut. How charitable. Oh and the docu bought from the Mandela Foundation who then gave Harry a spot to speak at the UN. How charitable.
It's all a business, need to pay for the lifestyle baby. It is all a bit in your face too, but for the gullible enough to buy it, it may be good enough.

@ZeViteVitchofCwismas i think Charles is awful. But I also think that the reality about what happened with security would be very different from what was implied in the documentary. (To note it was
the Canadian government who pulled the security discussed in the documentary, they didn’t actually say anything about Charles refusing to fund it personally. Finally Harry has an absolute fuckton of money that could pay for his own security.

Wandering, I don't think he has enough to sustain the millions needed for the constant security.

He would need Captital of x to generate income of x....

He needs constant income as well.

If he just ate into the millions without replenishing it he would get nothing in the end.