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If you watched all of Netflix H&M

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antelopevalley · 24/12/2022 19:54

I have finally watched all episodes. It was much better than I was expecting and bore no resemblance to what was talked about for hours and hours by some posters on here.
I am interested in discussing the programme with people who have watched it all. What struck me was:

  1. Harry clearly says Charles leaked the content of Harrys private letter to Charles, to the press.
  2. William when younger had agreed with Harry that neither of them would behave as Charles had with his press office. But William went back on that and behaved the same way.
  3. The Palace leaked the location of where Harry and Meghan were staying in Canada.
  4. The small number of social media accounts run by mainly white middle-aged women who push hate for both of them but especially Meghan.
  5. The myth that Meghan is controlling Harry is recognised by him as misogyny.

I think they were clearly right to leave.

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notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 19:39

Coxspurplepippin · 27/12/2022 19:11

'It's theirs to milk.' Not when it involves slagging off other people - tabloids, fair game, but to make a living by continually having a pop at your family? I notice they don't seem to talk about their relationship with the Markles, even after the pre-wedding shit show. Could it possibly be because they recognise the viewers aren't remotely interested in the Markles - all they're interested in is the poop on the royals.

Stop spreading misinformation.

There are several segments about the Markles. An explanation about how she didn't really know the others, but was close to her dad and her niece.

You either didn't watch or just plain lying.

MarshaMelrose · 27/12/2022 19:44

I often think Prince Seeiso of Lesotho is overlooked when talking about Sentabale. He was the brains and the guiding hand behind the charity. And is still involved with it in a way Harry isn't and can't be.

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 19:45

Wanderingoff · 27/12/2022 19:15

@notanotheroneagain ehat you think she therefore developed a phobia for hospital wings?

okay. Fine. I think she discovered how boring it would be to open garden centres. Or new lifeboat stations. Or unveil a plaque for the new community slippery dip at the arse end of nowhere.

as said - I am very anti royalty. But I also have a lot of respect for the way the queen shaped the role it played in celebrating every day unglamorous events.

What are you talking about in that first line? I have absolutely no idea, as I have never heard this, a phobia?

Ok, fine.
It looks like you are just making up things to justify your dislike.
MM went to a lot of things - which seem boring to anyone, but she did them with enthusiasm. I guess even charities for unemployed women (capsule)(bakery) and council estate (grenel) look glamorous with her. Guess that's where the confusion is.

You sound rather royalist tbf.

Or are you one of those who turned 'royalist' just so they can slag off MM. Plenty of those.

PatchworkElmer · 27/12/2022 19:52

MM made the very good point in the documentary (paraphrasing) that he wouldn’t have fallen in love with her if he wasn’t already on a different path to the one laid out for him. I think she’s right- he’s probably been looking to escape on some level for a very long time.

I thought they both came across well and wish them happiness. Whilst I wish it would all go quiet I can see that they feel they have to put their side across when the ‘other side’ have such an effective PR machine/ have been smearing them…. It’s pretty clear they’ve been thrown under the bus by the royal PR machine on more than 1 occasion.

GreenLunchBox · 27/12/2022 19:53

Is anyone else a little bit frightened at how unhinged their haters are? The level of obsession, and making up little stories in their head about Harry and Meghan's motivations. It really is stalker territory. They are stalkers with unrequited love (like Piers Morgan). Sad

PatchworkElmer · 27/12/2022 19:54

GreenLunchBox · 27/12/2022 19:53

Is anyone else a little bit frightened at how unhinged their haters are? The level of obsession, and making up little stories in their head about Harry and Meghan's motivations. It really is stalker territory. They are stalkers with unrequited love (like Piers Morgan). Sad

Yes. I would be paralysed with fear if I were MM. Regardless of who is right and wrong, she’s the mother of 2 young children and the bile people spew really is terrifying.

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 19:57

Ohnonevermind · 27/12/2022 19:20

Sentable polo raised 1.1m but cost 500k so raised 600k for charity in 2021 (these numbers are taken from the Sentable charities own financials)

The polo nets between 600-750k (pre pandemic) but the costs of the event were 800k pre pandemic. I’ve no idea how a polo event could cost that much ?

I do remember antelope being all over the wales charity for less. Perhaps she could start a new thread on this ?

Don't know what you are on about.

Sentebale received more than the usual amount. They said the polo usually raises 800K, but there is more now.

If you watched all of Netflix H&M
notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:00

I can see that they feel they have to put their side across when the ‘other side’ have such an effective PR machine/ have been smearing them…. It’s pretty clear they’ve been thrown under the bus by the royal PR machine on more than 1 occasion.

Exactly !
On lots of occasions from what I see.

When the BM stops smearing them, the will not talk about the matter, but will about their charities and other important things.

Ohnonevermind · 27/12/2022 20:06

@notanotheroneagain

that’s a ‘future event’ donation , it’s a note to the accounts, not included in them as it has not been received yet according to the accounts at that date.

it’s also a donation not ‘income from events’ so shouldn’t be included in the event income numbers

Ohnonevermind · 27/12/2022 20:08

I only used one year pre-pandemic and one post to look at the profit range - they must have used a number of years pre pandemic to calculate the number of 800k

Coronateachingagain · 27/12/2022 20:09

Ohnonevermind · 27/12/2022 20:06

@notanotheroneagain

that’s a ‘future event’ donation , it’s a note to the accounts, not included in them as it has not been received yet according to the accounts at that date.

it’s also a donation not ‘income from events’ so shouldn’t be included in the event income numbers

😅
Thanks for providing a more accurate reading of the accounts.
Plus I don't know why you would have to run an expensive posh polo event to make a donation, unless there is something in it for yourself.

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:10

Wanderingoff · 27/12/2022 19:33

@notanotheroneagain the royal family would have absolutely no influence or power over the allocation of public funds for royal security in Canada. At all. Such expenditure is accountable to the Canadian parliamentary process.

the issue of private security funding is a separate one and who knows what happened there. I recall Harry said that he didn’t tell his family they had left Canada. I suspect that there was a catastrophic and monumental break down in communications. I’m sure with fault on both sides.

possibly they couLd have returned to Britain and security. Who knows.

what I do think is that the line that the royal family “pulled security” and callously left them at risk is highly highly unlikely to be an accurate and realistic statement in what happened.

@notanotheroneagain the royal family would have absolutely no influence or power over the allocation of public funds for royal security in Canada. At all. Such expenditure is accountable to the Canadian parliamentary process.

Incorrect.
Yes, they pay (not too sure on specifics of full or part amount), but for an RF and certain high profile Diplomatic positions, they consult RAVEC. H cannot just rock up at the police station and demand security just on his own.

possibly they couLd have returned to Britain and security. Who knows.

Well that was kind of the whole point, to force them to come back home . Broke with their tale between their legs.

the issue of private security funding is a separate one and who knows what happened there. I recall Harry said that he didn’t tell his family they had left Canada.

you did not watch the documentary did you?

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:15

Ohnonevermind · 27/12/2022 20:06

@notanotheroneagain

that’s a ‘future event’ donation , it’s a note to the accounts, not included in them as it has not been received yet according to the accounts at that date.

it’s also a donation not ‘income from events’ so shouldn’t be included in the event income numbers

Erm yes, because at the time of reporting it was not included in that year's statement as they never received it on time. So will show in next years statement. They said so.

How can it be their 'income from events' when it's a donation from Harry/Archewell and donates to other charities too. Sentebale did not organise it, nor do I think they were there? Were they ? Don't recall seeing them. But it was not their event.

The amount Sentebale will receive from the polo is not even fixed, nor guarateed. What is this about?

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:16

*I say police station. I mean something like MI5, Scotland Yard, obvs.

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:23

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 27/12/2022 19:22

Xenia....her older siblings are mad and grabbing onto her coat tales.
Her dad seems narcissistic.

Is she allowed to say...no more?

What bonds could Harry have with his family?

How much time did he actually spend with his dad? Has Charles sacrificed or put Harry first, ever?

What does Camilla do aside from attending parties with Megan's no 1 hate preacher there?

Who are these amazing relatives?

💯%

Charles just seems to sacrifice Harry.

What does Camila do?

Well, she makes sure her own grown up dc get a trust fund from Charles - while they were lovers I believe.

What she does not do?
Advice Charles to make sure his grandchild Archie is atleast taken care of financially (even if he disagrees with Harry).

Ohnonevermind · 27/12/2022 20:24

@notanotheroneagain

you are trying to pull future year ‘commitments’ into current year numbers, spinning or as the finance world says ‘massaging’ - there is not ‘more there now’ as you said.

Let’s talk abut the donation when it’s in the financial accounts and the bank

rather than a note of a promise ?

Newpuppymummy · 27/12/2022 20:26

What struck me is

they are very privileged but like to moan and blame everyone else

they could have accessed therapy for Megan if she was struggling but they didn’t

Ohnonevermind · 27/12/2022 20:27

@notanotheroneagain

where is your source about ‘trust funds’ - based on your financial analysis of the sentable accounts I’d need a verifiable source rather than your ‘belief’

MarshaMelrose · 27/12/2022 20:27

What she does not do?
Advice Charles to make sure his grandchild Archie is atleast taken care of financially (even if he disagrees with Harry)

How do you know what's in the King's will? 🤔

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:31

Newpuppymummy · 27/12/2022 20:26

What struck me is

they are very privileged but like to moan and blame everyone else

they could have accessed therapy for Megan if she was struggling but they didn’t

They did.

MM said it ,that Harry arranged for a lady.

They were telling us what took place within the palace. That they were not given the help when they asked ( I guess because they had to go to the place for everything ). I believe she said at that time she had wanted to go somewhere (mh helping residential of sorts).

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:32

MarshaMelrose · 27/12/2022 20:27

What she does not do?
Advice Charles to make sure his grandchild Archie is atleast taken care of financially (even if he disagrees with Harry)

How do you know what's in the King's will? 🤔

I'm not talking about the will, I'm talking about the time they left and he was going to withdraw funding.
He should have taken his calls and see if Archie will be ok financially.

Wanderingoff · 27/12/2022 20:35

@notanotheroneagain are you able to acknowledge that the Netflix programme presented one side of what was clearly a complicated situation and that it is possible that there are other interpretations?

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:36

Ohnonevermind · 27/12/2022 20:27

@notanotheroneagain

where is your source about ‘trust funds’ - based on your financial analysis of the sentable accounts I’d need a verifiable source rather than your ‘belief’

This some kind of joke or trick?
You been here long enough to know it's been linked lots of times and comes out on top of google.

If you watched all of Netflix H&M
If you watched all of Netflix H&M
notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:37

Wanderingoff · 27/12/2022 20:35

@notanotheroneagain are you able to acknowledge that the Netflix programme presented one side of what was clearly a complicated situation and that it is possible that there are other interpretations?

We have had more than enough of the 'other side' .

Walnutwhipsarenothesame · 27/12/2022 20:38

notanotheroneagain · 27/12/2022 20:23

💯%

Charles just seems to sacrifice Harry.

What does Camila do?

Well, she makes sure her own grown up dc get a trust fund from Charles - while they were lovers I believe.

What she does not do?
Advice Charles to make sure his grandchild Archie is atleast taken care of financially (even if he disagrees with Harry).

You know nothing of their personal arrangements. Harry has plenty of money to take care of his own son.

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