If you watched all of Netflix H&M

[antelopevalley]

I have finally watched all episodes. It was much better than I was expecting and bore no resemblance to what was talked about for hours and hours by some posters on here.
I am interested in discussing the programme with people who have watched it all. What struck me was:

1. Harry clearly says Charles leaked the content of Harrys private letter to Charles, to the press.
2. William when younger had agreed with Harry that neither of them would behave as Charles had with his press office. But William went back on that and behaved the same way.
3. The Palace leaked the location of where Harry and Meghan were staying in Canada.
4. The small number of social media accounts run by mainly white middle-aged women who push hate for both of them but especially Meghan.
5. The myth that Meghan is controlling Harry is recognised by him as misogyny.

I think they were clearly right to leave.

Prince Louis doesn't receive funding. It's up to William and Catherine to sort his shoes and pepper pig treats out themselves. Same with Archie. His parents are multi-millionaires. What funding does he need?

I think they like to paint themselves as poor bereft and shunned. They are nothing of the sort.

They left the firm, there was a notice period and then the perks were withdrawn. It seems rather simple

it’s like the Brexit referendum, May wanted to leave the EU but retain the perks of EU membership. That didn’t happen either

it’s just not how the real world works.
No matter what Meghan and Harry say in their ‘documentary’

That $1.5m (£1.2m) is a donation from Harry's book not from a polo match. He just announced it at the polo match.

Wow I'd barely posted that and mnhw taking a look at it ? Can they see us typing?

It said William has just inherited the Prince of Wales money and I'm sure can afford shorts for Louis and gummies.

What does security cost?

Can someone at mnhw tell me what's going on!

@ZeViteVitchofCwismas i think that Piers might be on to you

There is absolutely no detail about the relationships with the Markles - it's all about the RF.

Keep your slurs to yourself.

They were new mums at that time, and EJ explained he just wanted to give a possibly baby blues/ night feeding new mum a break.

OMFG - I am roaring laughing and crying - is that actually true that someone defends a trip on a private jet when we have a climate emergency because someone is night feeding !!!

@antelopevalley are you speaking in tongues (again)?

This a lie

I work in TV and film production. I have made a few docs. Under the Ofcom Broadcasting Code, a right of reply or opportunity to respond must be made to those who are the subject of significant criticism or allegations of wrongdoing.

Usually every effort is made to obtain a reply. The production company, producer and contact details, title or working title of film/series, and broadcaster are all clearly outlined. If no response is received a second and then a third attempt is made and each are recorded along with the response of lack thereof.

I am surprised that the production company did not follow due diligence in making every effort to obtain a response. For me, the fairness obligation was not met as the initial approach did not follow the usual criteria in an opportunity to respond, which is to give make it relatively simple to elicit a response by making it clear the purpose of the documentary, and clear means of responding.

i would be very interested to see this intial response.

Amendment- I meant that if the production company published their initial approach, then the arguments around whether the Palace were informed and given sufficient time to respond and clear means to do so, could be put to bed.

Of course Netflix aren’t governed by Ofcom, unfortunately.

Is it? How do you know that? I mean I’ve only repeated what I have read in several places and of course I don’t know if it is definitely true, but you seem very certain that isn’t. How so?

Is that (Ofcom) still the case if it's not a UK production?

There is absolutely no detail about the relationships with the Markles - it's all about the RF.
I can't remember what episode but Meghan did explain this. She mentioned the age difference between them and then went on to say how she did not have much contact with them

I’ve said it before, I felt for them at the time, and completely understand why they left.

But they need to stop the sniping and whinging now, and actually find their freedom.

They complain about media intrusion but they are actively feeding it. They can’t seem to grasp that when they put ‘their side’ out, it’s going to face criticism and encourage people to look into what they’re saying, and increase the scrutiny in a way that just wouldn’t happen if they had said nothing at all. You just cannot control the narrative the way they want to

Him complaining about money when he has millions int he bank is just tasteless given the current climate. I don’t care how much security costs, you can get a smaller house etc.
It’s just giving ‘poor little rich boy’ now.

I thought the documentary pretty well covered both their lives, including things that they had done as adults and are hoping to continue.

Obviously there was more about the royals than the Markles but that is hardly surprising because the royal family is huge by comparison. The bits of historical footage were very useful forcontext.

There aren't many Markles; Doria took part in the documentary, there was some footage of Thomas but we know he has gone public with his views. Meghan's sister too. I don't know what else could have been shown. There was footage from when Meghan was a child, with her dad - and she mostly spoke well of him.

Yep but it was almost glanced on - no details. Because no-one is interested in the Markles. They pulled up all the stuff about Meghan's niece because it shows Meghan in a good light, but very little about any of the rest of the family. Thomas went public with his views, including slagging off the RF. It would have been interesting to have an in depth look at what Meghan thought of that, and her upbringing where she lived with her dad for an extended period.

Meghan's family aren't as 'huge' on the worldwide stage, but they're still her family - they helped shape the person she's become in exactly the same way Harry's family shaped him. She has a half brother who grows medicinal cannabis, a half sister who abandoned a child. There are stories there.

www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/12/inside-the-meghan-markle-family-breakdown-thomas-samantha-markle

This is a pretty thorough look through her family and appears well researched and credible - written in 2018 - so maybe closer to reality? It all seems quite bitter-sweet overall. Both parents indulged, supported and encouraged her cooperatively even though their own relationship didn’t last but this was also in the context of troublesome teens in the house, long working hours, family breakdown, different homes, bankruptcies etc. I expect she felt loved by them in an unpredictable / chaotic / maybe lonely family set up.

I suspect she is very invested as presenting the RF as dysfunctional , and encourages Harry to do the same , to minimise how dysfunctional her own family is.

@Walnutwhipsarenothesame I agree. I think she and Harry don't seem to realise the irony that their netflix documentary goes on about how they were bullied / criticised relentlessly by various sources and manipulation of truths (in their eyes), whilst they are doing exactly the same thing to the Royal Family and her father.