Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Harry and Meghan - Fairytale or not?!

151 replies

Teaandtoast2022 · 23/12/2022 18:51

After watching the Netflix series - I’m just in awe at how perfect their relationship is. How in awe he is of his wife, and how strong they are as a couple.

Does love like that really exist?!

OP posts:
GreenLunchBox · 24/12/2022 09:02

God there's a lot of jealous, bitter people on this thread

Morestrangethings · 24/12/2022 09:28

babysgotthespends · 24/12/2022 08:57

"But, for me, what they want to say is still horribly hurtful and deliberately damaging against the Royal Family, their family."*
*
The RF did nothing when the tabloids printed those awful stories - especially the Kate and Meghan comparisons, saying she's "Straight outta Compton" such witty and clever journalism that! The "diva" comments, making senior royals cry, angry black woman trope 🥱etc
There are some nasty comments directed at M on this thread but she has had nothing but racist bile thrown at her so if defending herself damages the RF then so be it. Although a Prince hanging out with a paedo so publicly is surely more damaging to the RF 🤷🏿‍♀️

It’s amazing to me that so many posters who want to criticise Meghan never mention/admit that she’s experienced racism.

BethJ62 · 24/12/2022 09:36

Morestrangethings · 24/12/2022 09:28

It’s amazing to me that so many posters who want to criticise Meghan never mention/admit that she’s experienced racism.

i thought the straight out of Compton comment was by an American journalist?

Morestrangethings · 24/12/2022 09:40

I don’t know who it was by but it was printed in a British paper, not that it matters who or where - Meghan has experienced both explicit and implicit racism.

marcopront · 24/12/2022 09:55

@Morestrangethings

It’s amazing to me that so many posters who want to criticise Meghan never mention/admit that she’s experienced racism.

marcopront · 24/12/2022 09:56

@Morestrangethings
*
It’s amazing to me that so many posters who want to criticise Meghan never mention/admit that she’s experienced racism*

It's possible to experience racism and also not be a nice person

Morestrangethings · 24/12/2022 10:10

marcopront · 24/12/2022 09:56

@Morestrangethings
*
It’s amazing to me that so many posters who want to criticise Meghan never mention/admit that she’s experienced racism*

It's possible to experience racism and also not be a nice person

Of course. I agree. That doesn’t change my point.

marcopront · 24/12/2022 10:17

@Morestrangethings

Of course. I agree. That doesn’t change my point.

So every time we comment on her we have to acknowledge she suffered from racism?

Morestrangethings · 24/12/2022 10:31

No. You don’t have to do anything. The idea is to say what’s right and true.

bakalava · 24/12/2022 10:46

Fairytale of New York 😂😂😂

Maximinimalist · 24/12/2022 10:54

marcopront · 24/12/2022 09:56

@Morestrangethings
*
It’s amazing to me that so many posters who want to criticise Meghan never mention/admit that she’s experienced racism*

It's possible to experience racism and also not be a nice person

How do you know she is not a nice person? Is Charles, Andrew, Camilla, Kate any “nicer”? Tell us how nice these people who you glorify are.

Diverseopinions · 24/12/2022 12:16

babysgotthespends · 24/12/2022 08:57

"But, for me, what they want to say is still horribly hurtful and deliberately damaging against the Royal Family, their family."*
*
The RF did nothing when the tabloids printed those awful stories - especially the Kate and Meghan comparisons, saying she's "Straight outta Compton" such witty and clever journalism that! The "diva" comments, making senior royals cry, angry black woman trope 🥱etc
There are some nasty comments directed at M on this thread but she has had nothing but racist bile thrown at her so if defending herself damages the RF then so be it. Although a Prince hanging out with a paedo so publicly is surely more damaging to the RF 🤷🏿‍♀️

I'm sorry if this is grossly naive, and I'm assuming it's ok to record the word 'Compton,' as other posters have, but what did that expression mean? Is Compton a place, or does it mean straight out of a Richmal Compton book?

Diverseopinions · 24/12/2022 12:24

One poster on a royal thread insightfully stated that repeating and puffing out content about two women falling out over dresses is the last thing that women need.

I never understood why Meghan repeated that anecdote in Oprah's interview, to a TV personality who has advanced the cause of women in the workplace so much, and who had a seriously hard upbringing and hurdles to navigate. What must Oprah really have thought of all that:

'It wasn't me who was mean, it was her who made ME cry'.

Diverseopinions · 24/12/2022 12:40

babysgotthespends · 24/12/2022 08:57

"But, for me, what they want to say is still horribly hurtful and deliberately damaging against the Royal Family, their family."*
*
The RF did nothing when the tabloids printed those awful stories - especially the Kate and Meghan comparisons, saying she's "Straight outta Compton" such witty and clever journalism that! The "diva" comments, making senior royals cry, angry black woman trope 🥱etc
There are some nasty comments directed at M on this thread but she has had nothing but racist bile thrown at her so if defending herself damages the RF then so be it. Although a Prince hanging out with a paedo so publicly is surely more damaging to the RF 🤷🏿‍♀️

So, I googled and Compton is a rough area with crime. So anybody who lives in Compton not only has a hard time living amidst anti-social behaviour, but they get denigrated by the suggestion that it's an insult to be one of them, living amongst them.

It's best not to get insulted by social references because you end up making the people who do live in unfashionable places feel bad. Somebody has to live in Compton. You just make those in the neighborhood feel slighted.

Comments about areas can be snobby on Mumsnet and I get annoyed when posters asking what are nice areas to live in SE London get told: 'Oh. That place is too near Woolwich
Avoid it!' 'Oh no! You can't be near Woolwich.' And all the snobbish references to nice cafes that are basically elitist comments.

It's really insulting to people who live there. It does have a fair bit of crime, but all places do, these days. Especially in London. I live a few miles away and go to Woolwich daily.

So is it totally different for the press to say that Kate's forebears were coal miners who came home from the pit covered in soot and dirt and washed in a tin bath in the kitchen and saying that Meghan lived near a deprived area?

If you are talking about an area with a diverse population it stops being a social slur and becomes extreme racism? Is that right?

bakalava · 24/12/2022 13:34

It is no different to places like Hackney where you get big council estates facing multi million pound houses. LA has far greater extremes of wealth and poverty than London. There is nothing embarrassing about it. You regularly get people describing every area of London as being a shithole. Who cares?
Doria's previous house was about a mile away but in Meghan's new self-invention, it should count as a positive thing, not an embarrassing fact.

derxa · 24/12/2022 13:38

Roussette · 24/12/2022 07:32

They seem happy and at ease with each other to me. Of course on here there are the usual suspects just willing the marriage to fail, there has been speculation about what will happen when it does (not 'if') what will happen to the children, what Harry will do, how the royal family should be with him, how often he will see the kids, and so on. It would be some posters' wildest dream for this to happen, their happiest day ever to see a marriage fail.

H&M need to prove them wrong, I think they are happy and good luck to them.

I hope they love each other and stay together because they have children now. Otherwise they are a bit elderly to be acting out Love's Young Dream.

MarshaMelrose · 24/12/2022 14:01

It’s amazing to me that so many posters who want to criticise Meghan never mention/admit that she’s experienced racism.

She's experienced racism.

I don't dislike her per se. She seems polite. I dont like some things she's done and apparently intends to carry on doing. I believe they're in love but I don't think they're good for each other. She's too controlling - I don't mean abusive, but she lacks self-esteem and is getting it through him. So she needs to have physical contact all the time and be in control of conversations. You can see he gets fed up with her l there are tons of videos. You could see the contempt in his face over the mocking curtsey (even if she meant it to mock herself). It doesn't mean they'll split up, for the children I hope they don't, but the bits of resentment you see in his face, which are manageable at the moment, risk growing into something serious unless they can learn to compromise their behaviours.

Oh and happy people don't need to try and take other people down all the time. People who are unhappy, scared and have poor self-esteem do that.

Molly70 · 24/12/2022 14:14

Straight outta Compton is a 2015 movie based on the rise of a black rap group from southern Los Angeles. It is based on a true story. I thought they used the phrase to compare Meghan’s rise although I don’t think she was brought up in the same circumstances.

LolaSmiles · 24/12/2022 14:16

It’s amazing to me that so many posters who want to criticise Meghan never mention/admit that she’s experienced racism.
I've criticised the pair of them and passed comment like I would any other celebrity who invites the world into their lives.

I also think she's experienced racism, that parts of the British press were awful, and honestly if she was really as clueless about royal life as she claims then I think she was worryingly let down by Harry if he didn't spell it out to her.

There's a lot of people who are capable of having an opinion that is neither fawning over them, nor wishing them I'll.

Comedycook · 24/12/2022 15:05

Molly70 · 24/12/2022 14:14

Straight outta Compton is a 2015 movie based on the rise of a black rap group from southern Los Angeles. It is based on a true story. I thought they used the phrase to compare Meghan’s rise although I don’t think she was brought up in the same circumstances.

Oh purlease...

It's an absolutely vile article and it doesn't take a genius to work out what it's about...

Roussette · 24/12/2022 15:10

How can someone think it's Richmal Crompton not Compton(the Just William stores from the 1950s which were innocent and of their time)

Seriously Diverse fine if you were tongue in cheek but if not Shock

Hugasauras · 24/12/2022 15:14

Sorry I know there's a lot of good serious stuff on this thread but I am seriously PMSL at 'straight outta Compton' being from a Richmal C(r)ompton book 😂😂😂

Roussette · 24/12/2022 15:32

Yes! Me too! I'm old I used to love the books!

Blip · 24/12/2022 17:22

I wouldn't call this a love that anyone should aspire to tbh, I think it's pretty dysfunctional.

OhmygodDont · 24/12/2022 17:29

Those who shouted louder about their love and amazing relationships tend to be those who are not in such a relationship. Just have a look on Facebook among normal people. The ones posting about how amazing their partners are tend to be the ones in failing relationships, been cheated on or the relationship ends not long after. Those just plodding along behind closed doors tend to last longer. Yes there is always the odd one out but it’s not the norm.

Even this month I had a couple celebrating their belated honeymoon to separate 3 weeks later but they where oh so so so in love and amazing and in love you know.