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Harry and Meghan - Fairytale or not?!

151 replies

Teaandtoast2022 · 23/12/2022 18:51

After watching the Netflix series - I’m just in awe at how perfect their relationship is. How in awe he is of his wife, and how strong they are as a couple.

Does love like that really exist?!

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ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 23/12/2022 22:50

Yes but they are only trying " too hard " because they have been pushed.

Pearl664 · 23/12/2022 23:09

I think Harry really loves her. I just hope that she loves him just as much.

SoyMarina · 23/12/2022 23:31

They probably love each other now but at the beginning Meghan loved the idea of marrying a prince and Harry loved the fact that someone as beautiful as her wanted to marry him.
Now they are bonded as ‘them against the world’.
Time will tell…..

susan12345678 · 24/12/2022 01:54

Giles Coren at Soho house Amsterdam with H&M

graziadaily.co.uk/celebrity/news/meghan-markle-prince-harry-shock-reveal-of-celebrity-amsterdam-barge-party/

StarbucksSmarterSister · 24/12/2022 01:55

Doria was in JAIL??? Wtf for?

Nothing. It's a nasty rumour started ages ago by a Twitter troll. If she had been, there is no way that somebody wouldn't have sold the story or that the tabloids wouldn't have printed it.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 24/12/2022 02:21

Giles Coren didn't start it and didn't tweet about it until 6 months after the Soho House event ( see tweet below) . Other people tweeted before him and there was a story in The Sun (by Dan Wootton of all people) hinting at an estrangement between K and Rose, which seems to have given rise to the rumours originally.

I have no idea if it's true but if it was I'm pretty sure those who really knew would not tweet about it.

WandaWonder · 24/12/2022 02:24

Fairytale of New York more like

StarbucksSmarterSister · 24/12/2022 02:30

Forgot the screenshot.

Harry and Meghan - Fairytale or not?!
Byfleet · 24/12/2022 02:49

The reason it seems unlikely to me that W had an affair with Rose Hanbury is that K’s sister Pippa named her most recent child Rose.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 24/12/2022 03:01

I can't imagine many women would give their child the same name as their BiL's mistress, no. It would be downright bizarre.

Mummyoflittledragon · 24/12/2022 03:46

No, not a fairy tale. Did you notice how they have had cameras following them round for a few years now? Who does that?

miri1985 · 24/12/2022 04:48

I think whats more interesting than whether or not we think they're living a fairytale is how much they want us to think that they are.

We have a word in Irish (plámás) that doesn't translate perfectly but its essentially empty flattery or ingratiating flattery. In my experience Americans are especially guilty of plámás, completely unintentionally its just a cultural thing and sounds wrong to the non American ear like everyone has to be awesome/a rockstar/ amazing etc. I think Harrys picked it up too and I think thats somewhat why it looks like they're trying very hard to sell their happiness to a non American audience

marcopront · 24/12/2022 05:43

Iam4eels · 23/12/2022 20:08

They met six or seven years ago? So they're hardly in the spring flush of their relationship, they're long term and still committed. I wish them well.

Six or seven years is long term?

What do you call couples who have made it to 15 years?

TheFairyCaravan · 24/12/2022 06:53

There’s some right bitches on here. I’ve never understood why so many people are determined to see someone else’s relationship fail. It’s really pathetic.

Harry and Meghan look very happy, in love and totally content to me. I hope they go the long term and can’t see why they won’t.

Morestrangethings · 24/12/2022 07:01

susan12345678 · 24/12/2022 01:54

The tweet was in 2019 according to Kidspot.

The grazia article you linked to was a year before in 2018.

It’s all just made up gossip, only now people have added to the gossip with more made up gossip.

Maximinimalist · 24/12/2022 07:12

TheFairyCaravan · 24/12/2022 06:53

There’s some right bitches on here. I’ve never understood why so many people are determined to see someone else’s relationship fail. It’s really pathetic.

Harry and Meghan look very happy, in love and totally content to me. I hope they go the long term and can’t see why they won’t.

These women that wish to see the relationship fail are very likely to be jealous. They are simply inviting bad karma to themselves.

If the women in the media who are criticising this couple are the indication of those who wish this couple ill, then it’s easy to understand why. Jealous has not done their faces or relationships any good.

Roussette · 24/12/2022 07:32

They seem happy and at ease with each other to me. Of course on here there are the usual suspects just willing the marriage to fail, there has been speculation about what will happen when it does (not 'if') what will happen to the children, what Harry will do, how the royal family should be with him, how often he will see the kids, and so on. It would be some posters' wildest dream for this to happen, their happiest day ever to see a marriage fail.

H&M need to prove them wrong, I think they are happy and good luck to them.

2bazookas · 24/12/2022 07:37

I’m just in awe at how perfect their relationship is. How in awe he is of his wife, and how strong they are as a couple.

You were watching a story being acted to order in front of a professional film crew, a production team; producer, director, sound engineer.
The performance was scripted; there were directions, rehearses, retakes, the whole thing (sound, vision) was then edited in a studio.

MistletoeandBaileys · 24/12/2022 07:44

I don’t think they are going to be in it for the long haul. And I think Harry is going to end up in a sorry state.

The whole thing has never sat right with me. I’ve always felt that Harry has tried to monetise his mothers death. He’s really trying to align himself with her and paint the picture of William as King Charles. I think it’s needlessly cruel on his part to his brother and father.

Whatever went on behind closed doors we will never know. But I reckon that Harry will live to regret ever opening his mouth. How could he ever mend the rift now? And he was going on about his own trauma with the press and rumours and untruths and the impact it had on him as a child. But not once did he think of the impact his words and insinuations would have on his niece and nephews. The endless speculation they would face in school. Particularly George who is old enough to hear about it and read about it.

Morestrangethings · 24/12/2022 07:48

And like clockwork 👆

Mezmer · 24/12/2022 08:13

TheFairyCaravan · 24/12/2022 06:53

There’s some right bitches on here. I’ve never understood why so many people are determined to see someone else’s relationship fail. It’s really pathetic.

Harry and Meghan look very happy, in love and totally content to me. I hope they go the long term and can’t see why they won’t.

Yet you are the only one using sexist and derogatory language.

BethJ62 · 24/12/2022 08:13

Fairy tale ? Hmm , given how dark some fairy tales are ( Hansel and Gretel for example) , I am not sure I would want my relationship compared to one !!

Diverseopinions · 24/12/2022 08:14

LadyKenya · 23/12/2022 19:44

I am not in awe of anyone I see on tv. I do not know any of them personally. What I see of them, I do believe that there is love in evidence. Anyway this thread is no doubt going to go the same way as all the others, full of posters ready to spout their bile. Good Evening.

I think the positive comments show that whatever life and world politics throw at us, we all believe in romantic love. I would love anthropologists to explain why this is. Is their some part of the brain that has a desire for soft billowy white fabrics; hearts; flowers and sweet music?

Meghan has been married already, yet still believes in the romantic dream. There didn't seem to be much wrong with her first husband, but she ended it, or they did, and so she knows that love and flowers can fade, but she still believes: like the rest of us who are essentially wedded to the idea of 'the triumph of hope over experience '.

Meghan and Harry remind of those 1950s films and even Agatha Christie and other novels, in which the couple are adults and people in their own right. Usually at this stage in a relationship, the couple's roles might have polarised a little, with the wife often being responsible for the bulk of the childcare. ( It shouldn't happen in an equal society, but it tends to.) The children would seem to be a lot more a part of the couple's lives and their raisin d'etre.

With Meghan and Harry they are like a fictionalised couple whose children don't bother them, and they have all these grand dreams of saving the world, doing service, being a thought leader, whereas most of the couples I know are finding the emotional issues of their children more complex and taxing than they ever could have imagined. They think the teenage years and twenty something years will make it less taxing, but it gets more complex). Serving their offspring's needs seems to exhaust most people's maginative efforts. Witness the typical posts on Mumsnet . Even sex between the couple often takes a hit, after the kids come along.

You'd think Meghan and Harry would have set the record straight about how wonderful and misunderstood they are and just have gone back into family life - but 'No', it's on with the mission. This is like a novel or a film, to me.

I guess, theoretically, a lot of money can enable you to live out love's middle aged dream. They don't really work, work, as most people know it. They perform really. They encapsulate causes within the chrysalis of their love story and wait for the butterfly of cellulose fiction to emerge in wealthy splendour.

I think Meghan has an incredible talent for abstract thinking, because after a few mis-starts, choosing a clunky, inflexible context ( traditional royal life) and seeming to steer and push Harry around at meetings and functions, and banging on about feminism, she really has selected an apt and functional vehicle for her purpose: the love story frame does actually enable her to offer her gripes and ideas with a soft focus which is quite palatable. They come across as equals too.

You could never say that their Netflix moan binge wasn't palatable. I had to force myself to scrutinise behind the facade to critique the ideas. It was bland and watchable and they would come across as likeable and unbitter to viewers who didn't know their history or who were predisposed to like them.

Definitely the styling Meghan had gone in for has come a long way from the Oprah interview, during which I thought that Meghan was ill-judgingly styling herself as a 'geisha' wife, type of connotation: the Japanese kimono style dress and flat makeup and silent flat expression was sort of a meek look, and doing what she has done before of pushing Harry to lead. She came across as someone who felt that they had had their voice and agency taken away by royal life at the palace - which fitted her narrative. Some commentators didn't buy it, though, and found it ridiculous.

This take that she has done is better orchestrated. Re-inventing themselves as the young, free, hip Californian couple who were laughing about being silly and whoops, there is one of those 'Medieval Chain restaurants...ooh, no it isn't, it's a palace, and we've got to bow and curtsey...ha!ha! ha!... Give over, Dude!'

It's better framing and styling, this time. There's a cohesion there.

But, for me, what they want to say is still horribly hurtful and deliberately damaging against the Royal Family, their family.

Diverseopinions · 24/12/2022 08:49

It's good to be a feminist, but I was surprised to read that Meghan had referenced her commitment to feminism in her 'wedding evening do' speech. We never know what is true, obviously, but that was reported in the press. Weddings are usually a time when people kind of say: " Ok, ok, we know being given away is old-fashioned and sexist, but we'll happily go along with all that for a bit of tradition and in the name or Romance'. It's like Meghan was signalling who she was and very modern.

I think the Netflix docuseries did present a new take on them, from the couple themselves. There was a sense of a young, carefree, spontaneous couple who like to laugh about. It was more like the romantic love you get at the start of a relationship.

People become somehow defined by the children, in the way they look and in their chemistry and interaction together. It's like ' Oh, yeah, we still have the romance and we fancy each other', but it's in the background, as they have evolved. The docuserie was more like Bogart and Bergman, always young, always figures of romance. So this was like a fairy tale or a film version of love.

babysgotthespends · 24/12/2022 08:57

"But, for me, what they want to say is still horribly hurtful and deliberately damaging against the Royal Family, their family."*
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The RF did nothing when the tabloids printed those awful stories - especially the Kate and Meghan comparisons, saying she's "Straight outta Compton" such witty and clever journalism that! The "diva" comments, making senior royals cry, angry black woman trope 🥱etc
There are some nasty comments directed at M on this thread but she has had nothing but racist bile thrown at her so if defending herself damages the RF then so be it. Although a Prince hanging out with a paedo so publicly is surely more damaging to the RF 🤷🏿‍♀️

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