The King rejects cut-price coronation in favour of ‘glorious’ pomp and pageantry

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Monarch wants to use ceremony to showcase ‘UK plc’ internationally, despite being deeply conscious of the cost of living crisis

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/12/21/king-rejects-cut-price-coronation-favour-glorious-pomp-pageantry/

How do you feel about this?

But William is cold
He cannot and does not connect with people . He isn't interested and it shows

Well yes to be honest he does come across that way. Maybe if William was in charge he'd be better. Charles is a warmer character but is getting on a bit and can he make the reforms.

Agree, Charles is a hard worker by their definition of work, and has real passion for those things that interest him like architecture, gardening, spirituality. I don't think Kate or Willian have that depth of character or maybe I'm missing something ? Harry though does, Invictus being a perfect example of starting and continuing something that has real value. When I went to ChatGPT it gave me this answer

Prince William, the Duke of Cambridge, has several passions and interests. Some of his main passions include:

1. Mental Health: Prince William is a strong advocate for mental health awareness and has launched several initiatives aimed at promoting positive mental health and breaking down the stigma surrounding mental illness.
2. Conservation: He is also passionate about conservation and is involved in several environmental organizations that work to protect endangered species and their habitats.
3. Sports: Prince William is a sports enthusiast and is particularly fond of soccer and rugby. He is the President of the Football Association and a keen supporter of Aston Villa Football Club.
4. Aviation: He also has a passion for aviation and served as a helicopter pilot for the Royal Air Force Search and Rescue Force.
5. Family: Prince William is a devoted family man and a loving father to his three children.

William is definitely worse than Charles.

He also lacks the 'mother's touch' he would have been taught by Diana. While HMQE was all about the crown, at least she had that soft empathy edge a lot of mothers tend to have.

W is a thorough company man. Raised on the tit of the cold grey suits.

I worry a bit about George too, because KM is just as cold and does as told, also lacking in backbone as she is married in and not confident like Diana who had her old aristo background behind her.

I think William has completed accepted Camilla as part of his family, she'll never replace his mum, but as someone who makes his Dad happy and who'd support his own family.

Camilla and her kids must have earned a lot of trust over the last 20 years. I don't think any of them have ever publicly uttered a bad word about any of the RF.

Harry was absolutely right when he said its a rope around Charles and Williams neck. No other royals get the same glare as children of the direct line. Anne's children get a little coverage but seem to be able to do as they please.
Even without the tragedy and pure drama in their lives trim birth they would invite interest.
However if they had normal steady parents no death /divorce/ wicked step mother in waiting I don't think the public would have been that interested in Harry.

One does wonder what on earth is william doing. Maybe he always looked clenched because he is trapped and he knows he is throwing his own dc under the bus.

@Sugarfree23 I thought camilla dc had been - - paid off-- had trusts set up by Charles

I agree

@notanotheroneagain

Agree William is cold but I imagine amazing with his children.
Charles I agree does seem warm but with his own dc??

I admire queen but she wasn't warm

Yes, trust funds set up and way before he married Camilla

I didn't know about trust funds. But they've maintained a dignified silence. Are you thinking its part of the deal say anything, good bad or indifferent and the fund goes?

No I don't think that at all. Why would they speak out and draw attention to themselves, they have received a very large fund if I were them I would just keep quiet and get on with my life

Agreed. They have been set up financially, get zero press attention, and can just enjoy their life with lots of money and no work unless they want to. They might moan about their parents to friends or partners, but they have zero reason to speak to the press.

The annual income is around 70k per year I do believe. I’m sure I read it sonewhere before, it’s hardly a huge amount. It was the roughly same as the amount Meghan earned annually from The Tig

Less than a weeks salary for a body guard detail

There is nothing in the public domain about how large the trsust for Camilla's children are, although they were said to be substantial. Tom Parker Bowles is known to enjoy Poker losing up to £500 a hand. They are obviously not short of money.

Their mother is close friends with the most influential journos. She gives them valuable leaks and keeps them happy. If they dear attack her children even William will agree that sons and daughters should be on their mother's side as you just can't get that type of love elsewhere.

The value of Charles's provision for them is not publicly available. Camilla will ensure her friends see to it not being published or discredited if it ever comes to light. The public must be glad their money is being spent in this way. I hope the boys and girls of today, women and men of tmrw are learning.
However, if you're already having an affair, just bide your time. If it's good enough for the Queen it's good enough for you😄

WHAAAAAT?????

Oh yes.
From 2012

"Prince Charles has moved quickly to bring Camilla's children under his wing.

The Evening Standard has learned he has established substantial trust funds for Tom and Laura Parker Bowles to ensure their financial independence."

As far back as 2005 actually.

Meaning it's cumulated a lot of growth and returns over the years.

Tom works for the Fail. He also features on the telly as he is a 'chef'/ food critic who also writes books. He is Charles godson too.

His sister is an art curator.

See Camilla played this very well. Find a pretty young naive breeder. Let her children take the flack and attention. Have yours taken care of financially, also with connections by association. Keep them away from the court bickering and courtiers (so nothing gets leaked about them and they are firmly in the background). Then one day you are queen.

So, yes ofcourse they are keeping a 'dignified silence'. Who wouldn't with that sweet deal.

It will be great.
The Coronation has to be engaging, meaningful, respect history, be sincere and entertaining so involving all the usual theatrics, music and wordings is comon sense.

He used to have financial interests in a pub restaurant on the outskirts of Peckham many moons ago that I went to. It was quite good, and I had a very posh 'gel' intern who mixed in their crowds and there was gossip about drugs. She was quite a head turner !

Looked very simple and definitely scaled back, which I think was a mistake. We need a little glamour just now. 250 million is small change to the government btw, and most of it is notional - that is, will be spent anyway because clerics, troops etc will be paid whatever they are doing on 6th May.

Really? I thought quite the opposite.

Shorter service, yes. No one in this day and age will sit through 4 hours or whatever. Shorter procession because they could not guarantee crowds lining it all the way. Apart from that, just the same.

I thought it was a hugely ostentatious display that goes against anything Charles has hinted at.

Who cares about £250M... chicken feed yeah

I agree.

And yes, chicken feed.................that could feed a lot of hungry school kids with the current situation. 😅

Definitely scaled back if you view the coronation in 1953. Not especially ostentatious and we are crowning a king and queen, a thing that no other monarchy in Europe does - a tremendous advertisement for the UK as a tourist destination but also as a safe place to do business - no disruptions (yes, I know about the rape alarm rumour and arrests - malicious if it was intended to spook the horses, people could have died) and an obviously stable society. The NHS costs 144 billion per annum so 250 million is not going to upset the budget much, and most is notional. Anyway, it cost about 100 million, including costs that would have been paid anyway. Charles said he would have a scaled down coronation (his mother's took four hours or so) and he did. He is, apparently, a sticker for protocol and tradition so it was simply going to be shorter. What else do you want - just a swearing in (we did that in September) like other European monarchies, which get 45 seconds on a news bulletin? We made millions out of the coronation and it will have boosted the hospitality industry. If people cannot watch something for four hours it is a terrible indictment of modern concentration!