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Was the great royal burgundy parade a cheeky swipe at Meghan?

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tatalan · 21/12/2022 12:37

Daily Mail thinks it has evidence. Let's discuss.

Was the great royal burgundy parade a cheeky swipe at Meghan?
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tatalan · 21/12/2022 18:52

meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 18:50

We don't know - they've said they won't release that information which is why we need a free press. They've reported the accusations and released a number of names. The Sunday Times reporter who broke the story discusses this on the BBC documentary the Princes and the Press. He says the people he interviewed were still visibly distressed when talking about it several years later and seemed to be traumatised by their experience.

A massive shame on the Palace then, they need to be investigated!

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Wanderingoff · 21/12/2022 18:53

I also heard that Charles was a real arsehole to his first wife?

tatalan · 21/12/2022 18:53

Wanderingoff · 21/12/2022 18:50

I wouldn’t be surprised if she was absolutely awful to work for.

but do you think Charles is a super nurturing boss? I imagine he’s a total bullying prick.

Andrew also a complete bastard as a I understand it

the point is the different standards applied to her

Even the reporter who broke the story confessed that it was in response to the upcoming Oprah interview. It's why some treat it as an oppo dump. Coupled with the fact that BP buried the report.

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tatalan · 21/12/2022 18:56

meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 18:50

We don't know - they've said they won't release that information which is why we need a free press. They've reported the accusations and released a number of names. The Sunday Times reporter who broke the story discusses this on the BBC documentary the Princes and the Press. He says the people he interviewed were still visibly distressed when talking about it several years later and seemed to be traumatised by their experience.

Frankly I think the distressed people should either sue her or go the Police. All this talking behind closed doors isn't helping them...don't you agree?

Although they will need to explain the past four years they've spent abusing her in papers and royal books, calling her duchess difficult, degree wife, damaged goods, narcissistic sociopath, psychopath, unhinged etc

I suspect it won't be pretty.

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meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 18:58

I don't think there have been different standards applied to her. I can quite believe that there are other bullies and abusers in the RF too but times are changing and people are speaking out about this kind of thing more these days. Which is also why Andrew has now been "retired" despite getting away with much of his behaviour at the time. From the BBC doc I mentioned (TPATP) several journalists commented that there wasn't usually much noise coming out of the palace - the odd incident here and there but within days of Meghan joining the firm, they were getting stories coming out left right and centre. They received the same stories from multiple sources at times, eg Tiaragate (which there were apparently several version of interestingly). Clearly not everything that's reported can be taken as gospel but there have just been so many reports of bullying behaviour, it's hard to disregard them all. And they do imo, tally with her behaviour in public.

tatalan · 21/12/2022 19:00

meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 18:58

I don't think there have been different standards applied to her. I can quite believe that there are other bullies and abusers in the RF too but times are changing and people are speaking out about this kind of thing more these days. Which is also why Andrew has now been "retired" despite getting away with much of his behaviour at the time. From the BBC doc I mentioned (TPATP) several journalists commented that there wasn't usually much noise coming out of the palace - the odd incident here and there but within days of Meghan joining the firm, they were getting stories coming out left right and centre. They received the same stories from multiple sources at times, eg Tiaragate (which there were apparently several version of interestingly). Clearly not everything that's reported can be taken as gospel but there have just been so many reports of bullying behaviour, it's hard to disregard them all. And they do imo, tally with her behaviour in public.

I think it's time those who accuse her of bullying reveal their identities, don't you think?

Sit down for an interview and expose her 😥

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meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 19:02

meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 18:58

I don't think there have been different standards applied to her. I can quite believe that there are other bullies and abusers in the RF too but times are changing and people are speaking out about this kind of thing more these days. Which is also why Andrew has now been "retired" despite getting away with much of his behaviour at the time. From the BBC doc I mentioned (TPATP) several journalists commented that there wasn't usually much noise coming out of the palace - the odd incident here and there but within days of Meghan joining the firm, they were getting stories coming out left right and centre. They received the same stories from multiple sources at times, eg Tiaragate (which there were apparently several version of interestingly). Clearly not everything that's reported can be taken as gospel but there have just been so many reports of bullying behaviour, it's hard to disregard them all. And they do imo, tally with her behaviour in public.

I think they're bound by their confidentiality agreements from what I understand and will also be worried about their future employment prospects. But it sounds like many of them want to speak out. I think the journo admitted to the timing as the staff were upset about allegations being levelled at them when she was actually the perpetrator and they were the victims. This is classic abuse if it is indeed what happened. DARVO.

meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 19:03

People have been named in the press though which is interesting. And they haven't come forward to deny it which I think is telling. But yes, it would be good to hear from them directly.

tatalan · 21/12/2022 19:06

meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 19:03

People have been named in the press though which is interesting. And they haven't come forward to deny it which I think is telling. But yes, it would be good to hear from them directly.

Until they do, i don't believe a word of it.

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tatalan · 21/12/2022 19:06

Now where was I?

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Adeckofcards · 21/12/2022 19:12

I thought they looked beyond ridiculous. A group of women in the same colour at the same event. It took from the event itself to which nobody seemed remotely interested in anyway. A double whammy slap in the face as it ridiculed Kate’s ‘event’.

tatalan · 21/12/2022 19:15

Adeckofcards · 21/12/2022 19:12

I thought they looked beyond ridiculous. A group of women in the same colour at the same event. It took from the event itself to which nobody seemed remotely interested in anyway. A double whammy slap in the face as it ridiculed Kate’s ‘event’.

Maybe there's an audience they're playing to, the royal watchers.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 21/12/2022 19:16

meinteresamucho · 21/12/2022 18:19

I don't condone anything that incites violence (that JC article shouldn't have been written) but at the same time some of these things are legitimate comments. There are quite a lot of people on Youtube who run channels that focus on the subject of narcissistic abuse and Meghan features quite heavily in their analysis - they recognise the signs of narcissistic abuse in her behaviour and genuinely believe that she is holding Harry hostage through emotional abuse and manipulation. Some who run these channels have suffered this abuse themselves (eg baggage claim) while others are narcissists themselves (or claim to be - ege HG Tudor). My interest in Meghan comes through my interest in narcissistic abuse, having also experienced it and I too recognise some of the signs. You might argue that we can't see what goes on behind closed doors but the fact is that they are living much of their lives on camera and Meghan has behaved in ways that some would define as abuse while it's being recorded. Although abuse towards others outside the relationship is more apparent (eg blatantly lying to cause hurt and damage to her in-laws). And all the bullying allegations towards staff etc.

@meinteresamucho, serious mental health disorders can't be diagnosed over the internet. The people on these YouTube channels are using MM's name as Clickbait.

They are part of the industryXmas Angry that has grown around hating MM. See also the British Press. It's sick as fuck.

tatalan · 21/12/2022 19:18

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/12/2022 19:16

@meinteresamucho, serious mental health disorders can't be diagnosed over the internet. The people on these YouTube channels are using MM's name as Clickbait.

They are part of the industryXmas Angry that has grown around hating MM. See also the British Press. It's sick as fuck.

Sick but lucrative. I say this with all due respect, the type of people gullible enough to buy into YouTube pseudo science are the type that consume tabloids like sheep.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 21/12/2022 19:19

I don't think what the RF wore has anything to do with MM at all. People are reading too much into it, as they are prone to do.Xmas Grin

Wanderingoff · 21/12/2022 19:19

The thing is - they’re ALL awful.

meghan, harry, William, Charles. But the press is weirdly and rabidly one sided.

Adeckofcards · 21/12/2022 19:20

tatalan · 21/12/2022 19:15

Maybe there's an audience they're playing to, the royal watchers.

The only people who would think this was funny/clever and relish the ‘up yours’ factor, are Daily Mail/Piers Morgan supporters. Do the RF give a flying fig about these people? If they do, they are putting themselves in the same category. If so, they can never criticise media intrusiveness again even when it comes to their children, as they are now the same ilk.

Coxspurplepippin · 21/12/2022 19:30

I think it's got to the stage where anything either 'side' does is examined under a microscope and found wanting by somebody. Kate's been criticized for the perfectly normal way she held a baby, people the tabloids have had a go at Meghan for eating avocados. Meghan holds her baby bump too much, Kate wears a burgundy coat. Meghan has a smirk, Kate has a bitchy resting face.

It's all bollocks, stoked by the press and we're led by the nose.

There's a good series on R4 at the moment called Living with the News - it's worth a listen.

F4chrissakes · 21/12/2022 19:38

Isn't magenta/burgundy the latest must have colour? Whether it is or not, all the coats fitted beautifully, and they all looked very smart. I suspect there is always wardrobe planning going on with the Wales family parents and kids matching, and why not? As an up yours to Meghan, do they care that much to do that?

DonnaDonna0 · 21/12/2022 20:03

I don’t get it really, lots of evidence of Megan wearing bright colours since the engagement. Why we are fixated on something irrelevant and factually not true I have no idea.

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 21/12/2022 20:14

There is only two,options here.

1 this was not coordinated and was a total coincidence they all fronted up in the same uniform, you can wear whatever you wish, there have been many instances of the royals turning up in the same colours, as witnessed by previous posters.

Meghan was thus talking made up shite

2 this was coordinated to disprove meghans words. As they all wore the same colour as has occurred before.

Meghan was thus talking made up Shite

either way it’s just been proven Meghan was talking made up shite. No way round it, again,

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 21/12/2022 20:17

F4chrissakes · 21/12/2022 19:38

Isn't magenta/burgundy the latest must have colour? Whether it is or not, all the coats fitted beautifully, and they all looked very smart. I suspect there is always wardrobe planning going on with the Wales family parents and kids matching, and why not? As an up yours to Meghan, do they care that much to do that?

Honestly, I thought pippas was a little big for her, but no big deal foe them all to get a coat. Christ they have staff to do that.

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/12/2022 20:31

@Wisteriaroundthedoor:
They coordinated because it looked good. They didn't think of MM at all.

MistletoeandBaileys · 21/12/2022 20:31

I liked Kates coat 😜

I also thought Zara looked beautiful too.
Kate and Charlotte usually have coordinated outfits at events so that’s not a big deal.

I would have thought their outfits are planned weeks in advance and maybe Camilla/Kate don’t care about the old protocol of no matching colours with senior royals.

And the fact that it was a Carol service dedicated to the Queen probably meant they wanted to be festive but not overly in your face festive.

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/12/2022 20:31

^ Third Option