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Was the great royal burgundy parade a cheeky swipe at Meghan?

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tatalan · 21/12/2022 12:37

Daily Mail thinks it has evidence. Let's discuss.

Was the great royal burgundy parade a cheeky swipe at Meghan?
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tatalan · 22/12/2022 10:49

meinteresamucho · 22/12/2022 10:45

Of course I'm not and have never claimed to offer a diagnosis of any sort to anyone!

Fine then!

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ancientgran · 22/12/2022 10:49

The majority of royal women didn't wear burgundy, it was Kate and Zara, Kate's sister isn't royal and Charlotte is a child in an outfit like her mum. Camilla didn't wear it, Sophie didn't wear it, Beatrice and Eugenie didn't wear it and lots of other more minor members of the family didn't wear it. Some clever photographer managed to find the 2 royal women, one non royal women and a child wearing it but it means nothing.

Coxspurplepippin · 22/12/2022 10:54

'She terrified Meghan and made her cry, then LIED to the press, shameful behaviour.'

Now you're just making things up.

pelargoniums, it wasn't your links I was referring to - the opening post of the thread links to a DM article.

I didn't have an opinion one way or another about Meghan and Harry for ages - they want out of the RF, don't want to be tabloid fodder, totally understandable, but then the little digs at Kate started, very subtle then becoming less so. Kate and Harry always seemed to have a good relationship, he knows what Kate had to put up with before she and William married. I don't like the snide digs wrapped up in faux concern.

I don't think Kate deserves any of it, it's unnecessary, and it changed my opinion of Harry and Meghan somewhat.

pelargoniums · 22/12/2022 10:57

ancientgran · 22/12/2022 10:49

The majority of royal women didn't wear burgundy, it was Kate and Zara, Kate's sister isn't royal and Charlotte is a child in an outfit like her mum. Camilla didn't wear it, Sophie didn't wear it, Beatrice and Eugenie didn't wear it and lots of other more minor members of the family didn't wear it. Some clever photographer managed to find the 2 royal women, one non royal women and a child wearing it but it means nothing.

Nice maths! Charlotte counts, she’s part of the royal family; Pippa counts, she’s Kate’s sister and they’re close – if there’s a petty cabal out to send a message to Meghan, she’s in it. Four women and girls. (To be clear, if it is a riposte to Meghan I don’t really think it was thought about more deeply than “We were mostly going to do burgundy anyway, so as not to be too festive after the funeral, but also wouldn’t it be a scream? Pips, do you have a coat?”)

Plus! Camilla’s brooch, which photographs burgundy. Then Wills’s tie, Mike Tindall’s tie, whatever Pippa’s husband is called’s tie. And Charles’s Y-fronts, according to sources.

tatalan · 22/12/2022 10:58

Coxspurplepippin · 22/12/2022 10:54

'She terrified Meghan and made her cry, then LIED to the press, shameful behaviour.'

Now you're just making things up.

pelargoniums, it wasn't your links I was referring to - the opening post of the thread links to a DM article.

I didn't have an opinion one way or another about Meghan and Harry for ages - they want out of the RF, don't want to be tabloid fodder, totally understandable, but then the little digs at Kate started, very subtle then becoming less so. Kate and Harry always seemed to have a good relationship, he knows what Kate had to put up with before she and William married. I don't like the snide digs wrapped up in faux concern.

I don't think Kate deserves any of it, it's unnecessary, and it changed my opinion of Harry and Meghan somewhat.

So when Kate lied to the press about Meghan making her cry when she was pregnant and without her mom/friends in a foreign country, what was that about? it was an especially cruel and evil thing to do, I know Meghan will never forgive her for it.

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pelargoniums · 22/12/2022 10:58

@Coxspurplepippin Ah, OK – gotcha. Sorry! In terms of the opening post, it’s not only the Mail who’s theorised on the burgundy brigade – the Guardian and others were at it too, so not just a rogue random Mail spite article.

ancientgran · 22/12/2022 11:02

pelargoniums · 22/12/2022 10:57

Nice maths! Charlotte counts, she’s part of the royal family; Pippa counts, she’s Kate’s sister and they’re close – if there’s a petty cabal out to send a message to Meghan, she’s in it. Four women and girls. (To be clear, if it is a riposte to Meghan I don’t really think it was thought about more deeply than “We were mostly going to do burgundy anyway, so as not to be too festive after the funeral, but also wouldn’t it be a scream? Pips, do you have a coat?”)

Plus! Camilla’s brooch, which photographs burgundy. Then Wills’s tie, Mike Tindall’s tie, whatever Pippa’s husband is called’s tie. And Charles’s Y-fronts, according to sources.

The majority of royal women did not wear burgundy. That's a fact, Camilla, Sophie, the Duchess of Gloucester, Beatrice, Eugenie plus others. Pippa isn't royal, you don't become royal because your sister married a royal but if she counts how about Kate's mother who didn't wear burgundy. So do your maths, the majority did not wear burgundy.

Coxspurplepippin · 22/12/2022 11:05

tatalan · 22/12/2022 10:58

So when Kate lied to the press about Meghan making her cry when she was pregnant and without her mom/friends in a foreign country, what was that about? it was an especially cruel and evil thing to do, I know Meghan will never forgive her for it.

I hadn't realised you were such bosom buddies.

I don't recall an interview Kate gave to the press - can you find me a link. I imagine (I have to do that because I don't know either woman, unlike yourself), that there was a petty disagreement between recently post partum Kate and filled with bridal nerves Meghan, which Meghan chose to turn into some major drama.

I don't know why Meghan didn't have any friends or her mother with her - surely she could have asked anyone she wanted - why do you think she didn't do that? Or why, if you're such a close friend, weren't you there?

SallyLockheart · 22/12/2022 11:06

@tatalan so you Meghan personally do you?

SallyLockheart · 22/12/2022 11:06

know Meghan personally? sounds like from your comment

ZingCarryOn · 22/12/2022 11:08

OMG this thread! Scarily over involved posters super fans

I don't recognise Mumsnet with the recent RF threads, especially the Meghan fans. There is an unhealthy obsession on both sides, rather distasteful and low brow.
Feel free to keep obsessing about the RF, the rest of get on with real life.

pelargoniums · 22/12/2022 11:08

ancientgran · 22/12/2022 11:02

The majority of royal women did not wear burgundy. That's a fact, Camilla, Sophie, the Duchess of Gloucester, Beatrice, Eugenie plus others. Pippa isn't royal, you don't become royal because your sister married a royal but if she counts how about Kate's mother who didn't wear burgundy. So do your maths, the majority did not wear burgundy.

No one has said the majority of royal women wore burgundy. The entire thread is about “is this handful of people wearing burgundy at Kate’s do a riposte to Meghan?” I think yes, you think no, tomato, tomahto, potato, potatoh, Camilla’s brooch is burgundy too.

Rainbowqueeen · 22/12/2022 11:11

Nope.

They chose colours that are christmassy but show respect for the late Queen. So not bright reds or greens.

I follow a fashion blog that focuses on Kate but has noted the Royal women co ordinating at other functions - I remember one where the blogger noted they all had shades of blue.

It must be really stressful for them at the moment being so closely scrutinised to see how they are reacting to H and M. When really they are all probably desperately sad that it has come to this

vera99 · 22/12/2022 11:12

Which way did the racist brooch Duchess swing I have forgotten her name.

MarshaMelrose · 22/12/2022 11:18

I love that colour. It's very in at the moment and it's warm and festive. Kate will have chosen her coat a while ago because she's pre-recorded bits. If her sister and cousin in law wear the same colour, it's hardly a conspiracy.

Having said that, if they chose to wear it to support a family member they care for, good for them. If people approve of Beyonce sending support to Meghan, why would they disapprove of the RF doing likewise.

The vast, vast, vast majority of British people won't have the faintest idea what the fuss is about. Kate's pretty popular in the UK at the moment so they'll probably only be looking at what she's wearing. And she did look fab in it.

tatalan · 22/12/2022 11:35

I think i've seen far more people who agree that it was deliberate, now whether it's regarded as an immature, childish, petulant reaction or a well warranted response is up to individuals 😐

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tatalan · 22/12/2022 11:36

vera99 · 22/12/2022 11:12

Which way did the racist brooch Duchess swing I have forgotten her name.

She wasn't in attendance.

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cyclamenqueen · 22/12/2022 11:39

vera99 · 22/12/2022 11:12

Which way did the racist brooch Duchess swing I have forgotten her name.

She’s not a Duchess, she’s Princess Michael of Kent . Prince Michael is the younger brother ( still late seventies) of the Duke of Kent and first cousin to the late Queen, he gave up his place I. The line of succession to marry her as she is Catholic and I think a divorcee.

Marie Christine ( Princess Michael) is unpopular anyway in the royal family because she is very rude about them and insists that she is more aristocratic than any of them because she is a German countess, but also spent a lot of time banging on about how poor they are and how badly treated as they were only given a small apartment at Kensington palace in contrast to the Gloucesters .

Nevertheless the Queen was very fond of their children one of whom is married to Sophie Winkleman and the other got married at Windsor the same year as Harry and Meghan and had, in my option, one of the most beautiful royal wedding dresses .

cyclamenqueen · 22/12/2022 11:41

Why is the colour burgundy a swipe at Meghan , I am completely baffled by this story . I like the colour it’s very smart . Obviously I am missing something

lollipoprainbow · 22/12/2022 11:44

I see Sophie Winkleman has piped up now calling the senior royals hard working and brave (??!!) another one having a dig.

tatalan · 22/12/2022 11:44

cyclamenqueen · 22/12/2022 11:39

She’s not a Duchess, she’s Princess Michael of Kent . Prince Michael is the younger brother ( still late seventies) of the Duke of Kent and first cousin to the late Queen, he gave up his place I. The line of succession to marry her as she is Catholic and I think a divorcee.

Marie Christine ( Princess Michael) is unpopular anyway in the royal family because she is very rude about them and insists that she is more aristocratic than any of them because she is a German countess, but also spent a lot of time banging on about how poor they are and how badly treated as they were only given a small apartment at Kensington palace in contrast to the Gloucesters .

Nevertheless the Queen was very fond of their children one of whom is married to Sophie Winkleman and the other got married at Windsor the same year as Harry and Meghan and had, in my option, one of the most beautiful royal wedding dresses .

You seem to know a lot about her. Do you know why she got to keep her HRH in commercial business dealings but H&M couldn't? She also does royal engagements here and there.

Was the great royal burgundy parade a cheeky swipe at Meghan?
Was the great royal burgundy parade a cheeky swipe at Meghan?
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tatalan · 22/12/2022 11:45

lollipoprainbow · 22/12/2022 11:44

I see Sophie Winkleman has piped up now calling the senior royals hard working and brave (??!!) another one having a dig.

How is that a dig? did she mention names or are you just extrapolating?

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Seasonofthewitch83 · 22/12/2022 11:53

Such a rank thread. Kate isnt going to bone you, stop boot licking complete fucking strangers,

cyclamenqueen · 22/12/2022 12:00

tatalan · 22/12/2022 11:44

You seem to know a lot about her. Do you know why she got to keep her HRH in commercial business dealings but H&M couldn't? She also does royal engagements here and there.

To be honest I’m not sure, I don’t think she personally did engagements , her husband did. Also Prince Michael had his HRH as a grandson of George V not the Queen . She made money from writing historical biographies ( quite good ones I think) but not from ‘being royal’ or expressing opinions ( Harry and Meghan do still have HRH they just agreed not to use it, )but there were quite a few arguments with her and I think the Queen did put her foot down a couple of times. They were always moaning about not having money so the Queen was probably pleased she was earning.

The Kent’s had a tough time , the Duke of Kent died in the war leaving 3 children under six in fact Prince Michael may not have been born, he was also penniless and dependent on the King. I suspect the Queen had a soft spot them . The Duke of Kent and a Princess Alexandra his sister were two of the Queens closest confidantes .

lollipoprainbow · 22/12/2022 12:03

@tatalan be gone with your big fancy words. I'm wondering now if you are actually the author of this nasty article in the mail.