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To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

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Reindeersnooker · 20/12/2022 16:01

I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

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Virginiaplain · 21/12/2022 10:05

Novella4 · 21/12/2022 10:02

For gods sake !

They can make a statement .
They haven't

They are showing the world that H and M were right

Is that you Meghan?

rumship · 21/12/2022 10:07

Funny all the Fans of H&M demanding the RF make a statment, why should they. Have the Grifters finnaly lost their voice?

Where is H&M`s Stament? strangley silent when it suits them. Why should the RF speak up first, Meghan and Hasbeen cant seem to stop speaking on camera why not now.

They hate the RF and the firm soo much it must be obvious they dont want them to speak on their behalf.

rumship · 21/12/2022 10:08

@Virginiaplain I was starting to wonder, seems to live on here defending and spinning tales on behalf of Megsy.

lollipoprainbow · 21/12/2022 10:10

Yes of course they should but they won't because Jeremy is Camilla's friend.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:12

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 07:51

Yes of course and why was Camilla hosting piers Morgan?

Oh god here we go again 😂

nomoneyno · 21/12/2022 10:12

No.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:12

I'd love to know what makes men like JC and Piers hate Meghan so much.

I strongly suspect their penises are put out of joint because women like Meghan will NEVER fuck them or so much as glance in their direction

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/12/2022 10:13

IMO I can’t believe it’s dragged out this long with more commentators getting involved and at some point people will move on

I wouldn't worry, Marsha; when attention finally moves on Clarkson will no doubt produce another stunt for his fellow oafs to chortle over, but in the meantime he'll be thoroughly enjoying the ruckus he's created

It is, after all, his entire MO

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:14

Camilla was with Clarkson around the time the article was being published. Camilla’s charity campaign work on preventing violence against women is undermined by Clarkson’s words

How?

His words are nothing to do with her or her work. He hadn’t published the column then and she didn’t host the lunch. If anyone think so it’s because just looking to shift blame onto another woman. Good old misogyny ey.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 10:14

I just think the optics look very very poor for Camilla right now.
There is no way Diana would have agreed to go with pier's Morgan there!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:15

Clarkson’s words are some of the worst written about Meghan in a national newspaper by someone who wines and dines in royal circles. If the palace permit this then they are responsible for giving the media permission to write anything about this one member of the royal family who is their only person of colour too.

What do you think the Royals ‘allowed’ exactly? And what does the media need the RF’s permission for?

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 10:16

Pier's Morgan has been gunning for Megan for years now and even lost a job over it.
If Camilla or her "team" doesn't understand how speaking about women like this degenerates them, leading to violence she needs to step down immediately as a parton to this charity.

Novella4 · 21/12/2022 10:18

@MarshaBradyo
Public opinion is not split

There has been a years worth of complaints in a few days

The royals haven't made a statement because it's all a bit too close to home . The royals depend on the media to keep the show on the road and to keep the skeletons in the cupboard

They will probably be forced to make some mealy mouthed statement sooner or later

But the damage had been done
Camilla PR is in tatters

bakalava · 21/12/2022 10:19

It is plausible that Camilla would let her friends do her dirty work. She is a mischief maker and not a girl's girl. Anybody who creeps around with another's husband for years in such a way cannot be a good human being.

Btw, her son (Tom) is the person who is a friend of Clarkson for those who do not know.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:19

Cornettoninja · 21/12/2022 09:21

If the palace permit this then they are responsible for giving the media permission

The palace don’t ‘permit’ anything in reality. Their limited control of the press is a balance of mutual agreement and benefits to both parties outside of legal breeches which are between the accusing party and the media outlet. Outside of that is pure opinion which is open to debate and likely to inflame any debate further which then leaks into areas they have no business influencing.

They absolutely wield a lot of influence but that comes with the responsibility of knowing when to use it. This is, at its foundation, is between JC and MM. Anything else is shouting from the sidelines which isn’t something the RF indulge in and have made this clear over decades.

I would hope that support has been offered privately but that’s not for us to demand knowledge of and would be in the context of already very strained family relations which I would imagine makes things more complicated.

I don’t want to get into to tit for tat, but there’s also being no official comment on PH using footage of Diana’s interview despite PW laying out very clear reasons for not using it. No commenting formally doesn’t mean the RF condone it and it never has.

Yes exactlyZ

Nor to mention after Diana’s death a gentleman’s agreement was formed between the press and the palace that UK press wouldnt pap Royals children. That’s based on a mutual agreement in person and good will of the press - they would jeopardise that (and almost did a few years ago when Catherine started taking her own pictures rather than doing press ops) if they started doing a tit for tat policy of speaking out every time someone writes something they don’t like.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 21/12/2022 10:19

There is no way Diana would have agreed to go with pier's Morgan there!

Does that fabulous psychic ability of yours that can confidently predict what a woman dead for 25 years would have done stretch to the numbers for the next Euromillions? If it does PM me and I promise to see you right

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:20

Novella4 · 21/12/2022 09:25

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet

Good lord you were working hard yesterday defending the indefensible!
Your claim that Andrew sneaked the BBC in to Buckingham Palace for his interview is ludicrous

The room in Buckingham Palace was used to attempt to add gravitas to Andrew . Instead it revealed how grubby the royals are and im so glad he used their palace as a background . Anti PR

Yet the most vile sexist racist article - one with world wide attention and revulsion- absolute silence

And there is Camilla working with domestic violence charities and still not a word . Shameful .
We all know the palace spends a lot of its time feeding stories or muffling stories or manipulating their image, so to say that they are 'above it all' is nonsense
They are deep in this one and that's why they are stuck

They will probably eventually dribble out something and it will be too little too late and they are already seen for what they are .

I didn’t say Andrew sneaked in anywhere? I said he didn’t need his mother’s permission to do an interview and could easily have orchestrated it himself (which he largely did)

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:21

LovelyRachel · 21/12/2022 09:25

People keep referring to Game of Thrones.

Well I've never seen it and nor has many of my friends. So the reference doesn't make sense to us.

So the fact its based on an existing fictional story means absolutely diddly squat sweet fuck all

😁

Clarkson is relying on the analogy to get away with his vile words. So if people object - or if he is sued - he can say “Oh silly you you’ve misunderstand I’m just talking like she’s in a popular TV show, I don’t actually want violence against her hahahahaha”

Novella4 · 21/12/2022 10:21

Largely ??

He had permission to use Buckingham place and you know it

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:22

Inspecto · 21/12/2022 09:40

Silence is consent.

As it stands, the palace have proven the point that Harry and Meghan were making about how she was not being protected like other royals. This shows Meghan will never be protected by the palace. Even people who doubted Harry and Meghan before can see there is some truth to what they were complaining about.

I see no reason why the palace cannot clarify their position that they do not condone Clarkson’s words. Even Clarkson understands there has been a backlash.

In what way will releasing a statement protect anyone?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:23

Novella4 · 21/12/2022 09:40

Jesus

Off the top of my head , the royals put out statements about Kate's Botox but when this vile thing is written about the kings daughter in law - silence

That’s because a plastic surgeon doctored photos of him performing a procedure on ‘Catherine’, claiming he gave her Botox. It wasn’t in response to press stories or a column.

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 21/12/2022 10:25

How utterly obtuse.

They can release a statement to say they are deeply disappointed in a piece written by JC on mm.
They can say it was an error of judgement that Camilla attended the bash with pm also in attendance and as a patron of domestic violence charity she condems public degeneration of women in such terms especially of her step daughter in law.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:25

BethJ62 · 21/12/2022 09:42

Sue on what grounds ?

Meghan and Garry want to control their own narrative so are perfectly capable of issuing a statement about JC’s comments . No matter what the palace said they wouldn’t be happy .
Or maybe for once in their lives they are keeping a dignified silence.

Garry 🤣

Yes exactly they’re 40yo people they don’t need daddy to defend them, it’s not school.

Im guessing they’re lining up to sue JC and the rag. They are quite litigious by nature, and I hope they do just to see the people at The Scum squirm and simper.

As an aside I hate referring to Clarkson by his initials, they’re the same as that bloke whose birthday it is on Sunday

SallyLockheart · 21/12/2022 10:26

20k complaints out of a population of 67m - say 50m adults.

no poster on here has any idea of what the overall general public think. The number of complaints merely reflect a twitter type level of frothing backlash and I do wonder how many of those complaints actually read the whole column - there was wholesale encouragement here for other posters to write and complain, replicate that on twitter and off you go.

I was much more offended by Jordan Gray on Channel four with a self written song saying he/her was better than any woman and flashing his genitals and playing the piano with his penis and the regulator deemed that was ok and Channel 4 was praised for being innovative. That was misogyny at its finest

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 21/12/2022 10:26

Novella4 · 21/12/2022 09:46

Shocking !
That's much worse than what Clarkson did !

Who said it was? It’s a completely different situation. They confirmed the pictures were not of Catherine. I’m sure RF should have got that crystal ball out again that they own, looked it it he future and aww this happen and so not do that

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