To think the palace should issue a statement condemning Clarkson's comments?

[Reindeersnooker]

I'm all for their dignified silence on everything else. I don't trust Harry or Megan. But Jeremy Clarkson's comments are horrific and were made in Britain against a woman who has become a member of their family.

NOT issuing a statement sends out such a hurtful message and indicates that anything can be said about her, for all they care. Even the MPs have managed to put something on paper.

It's clear that Harry will be beyond hurt if they do nothing and this time he'd have a point, IMO. Each comment like this published in the press erodes the boundaries for online trolls. If I was Meghan, I wouldn't feel I could return to the UK as it's clear the normal rules don't apply to her. What will her children think of Britain when they grow up and become aware of these articles? Won't they be likely to wonder how the palace responded? While it makes no sense to try and placate Harry generally, letting this play out without one word of censure to the press seems needlessly provocative.

It wouldn't be difficult to issue a statement saying something to the effect of "We stand against bullying and hate speech..." Two lines to indicate they see it and it's not ok.

Or not?

The freedom to say whatever the hell you like should not extend to the misogynistic bile JC spews. I can't believe that an editor - even the editor of the Sun - would let that article be published. His words condone and sanitise violence towards women and should be abhorrent to anyone who reads them. Those men who can't see any harm in what he says (he's a bit of a lad after all, knows lots about cars etc) will think it's okay to talk about women in those terms. And if it's okay to talk about them in those terms, then presumably it's okay to take the next step and subject them to actual humiliating and violent behaviour.

It's not their job to disclaim the piece of writing.

If people like Camilla are socializing with Clarkson, though, that needs to stop.

Suggesting a mixed race mother of 3 be paraded naked and have shit thrown at her for daring to use her voice? Yep that's some misogyny there which affects all women

Actually, people of all races deserve not to be assaulted, so can we stop the silly identity-tick-box crap already?

I agree with you OP. Jeremy Clarksons article was reprehensible. I don't agree with posters saying Meghan has to accept it as she spoke to the media herself. Whatever Harry and Meghan have said is not comparable to an article saying that JC hates a woman 20 years his junior so much that he wishes to see her being paraded through the street naked having shit thrown at her.

The rest of the article painted Harry as being controlled and coerced by Meghan , therefore feeding into the 'under the thumb' narrative that in effect means the man in the relationship is blameless for the perceived wrongdoing by the couple, and it's the woman who takes the blame. He singled Meghan out for his vitriol, the article dripped with misogyny. The RF absolutely should issue a statement for that reason alone.

I'd love to know what makes men like JC and Piers hate Meghan so much. What they have on common is their age and arrogance.

Yes of course and why was Camilla hosting piers Morgan?

She wasn't, she attended a function she was at but she wasn't the host. That said it would have been the decent thing to bow out when realising both him and piers were there.

I find it hard to believe the Queen goes out to lunch without knowing who is there. Her security most definitely would have known.

It doesn't matter who the article was about. Nobody should be given a voice in a national newspaper to make those comments about anyone. The fact that the article is about Meghan who apparently deserves such misogynistic comments because she somehow 'brought it on herself' is irrelevant.

I'd love to know what makes men like JC and Piers hate Meghan so much

She's a successful woman of colour who has married into an outdated institution which inclines towards racism and dares to criticise it. Plus she is beautiful and at least one of them resents the fact that she would never sleep with him in a million years. All this threatens the deeply ingrained beliefs of the likes of PM and JC that they are top dogs.

That's my guess.

Family refuses to condemn Jeremy Clarkson over 'hateful' Meghan Markle column Royal Family refuses to condemn Jeremy Clarkson over 'hateful' Meghan Markle column

”Yahoo News UK understands that the palace is, however, angry at some of the media coverage of a lunch attended by both Camilla and Clarkson last week.“

I thought this was a damning article. For a firm that cares so much about their image, I don’t understand why they haven’t said anything to clarify where they stand. I read that even Jeremy Clarkson’s daughter has taken a stand against the awfulness of his article - and he has issued a non-apology.

@Reindeersnooker I agree that doing nothing is the worst thing the palace could do here. But I think they may have left this statement a bit late now.

The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

Jeremy Cllarkson is an oaf who went too far.

I don’t think the palace can set a precedent of commenting on everyone ele’s comments on the monarchy. It would be never ending.

I see that ITV's managing director, Kevin Lygo, has said that Clarkson won't be sacked. He said that Clarkson is "the consummate broadcaster," although he did say that he didn't approve of what he wrote.

But it’s more than that.

Camilla was with Clarkson around the time the article was being published. Camilla’s charity campaign work on preventing violence against women is undermined by Clarkson’s words. These are poor optics. You’d think it was in the palace’s interest to issue a statement.

Clarkson’s words are some of the worst written about Meghan in a national newspaper by someone who wines and dines in royal circles. If the palace permit this then they are responsible for giving the media permission to write anything about this one member of the royal family who is their only person of colour too. Bad optics.

Where to draw the line with free speech?

I think something which is clearly absurd, and based on an existing fictional story, is not something we should legislate against.

Having said that, Clarkson is obviously an attention seeking misogynistic idiot.

He was astonishingly misogynistic in what he said ... but it was off the back of something equally as outrageous that MM and PH have done ... I have no love for any of them they should all grow up and stop using the press for their own gains

As soon as she saw piers Morgan she should have been out.
Clarkson was a then unknown.

But pier's Morgan?

Hopefully, Harry and Meghan are preparing to sue Jeremy Clarkson and the Sun newspaper, which may explain why Harry has not issued a statement in support of his wife nor condemning Jeremy Clarkson.

I am on the fence as to whether the Royal Family should make a statement.

This is broadly where I am. JC can say/write what he likes but the freedom of speech includes consequences for what you say. I think most of the responsibility lies with the platform that allowed him to distribute his views to a mass audience.

Given the outcry it’s caused I’m not convinced legislation is required when societal pressure is pretty much bang on in maintaining boundaries in this case.

If.... Jeremy Clarkson can say what he likes,ok.

That doesn't preclude however the palace slamming him down..

As a father of course he should it's his son's wife.

Equally as outrageous?????

You'll have to remind me when Harry or Meghan used sexually violent imagery. Please share this "equally as outrageous" statement/behaviour.

Just when I think I've heard all the excuses for misogyny, along comes another.

Some people have the emotional intelligence of a banana.

If the palace permit this then they are responsible for giving the media permission

The palace don’t ‘permit’ anything in reality. Their limited control of the press is a balance of mutual agreement and benefits to both parties outside of legal breeches which are between the accusing party and the media outlet. Outside of that is pure opinion which is open to debate and likely to inflame any debate further which then leaks into areas they have no business influencing.

They absolutely wield a lot of influence but that comes with the responsibility of knowing when to use it. This is, at its foundation, is between JC and MM. Anything else is shouting from the sidelines which isn’t something the RF indulge in and have made this clear over decades.

I would hope that support has been offered privately but that’s not for us to demand knowledge of and would be in the context of already very strained family relations which I would imagine makes things more complicated.

I don’t want to get into to tit for tat, but there’s also being no official comment on PH using footage of Diana’s interview despite PW laying out very clear reasons for not using it. No commenting formally doesn’t mean the RF condone it and it never has.

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet

Good lord you were working hard yesterday defending the indefensible!
Your claim that Andrew sneaked the BBC in to Buckingham Palace for his interview is ludicrous

The room in Buckingham Palace was used to attempt to add gravitas to Andrew . Instead it revealed how grubby the royals are and im so glad he used their palace as a background . Anti PR

Yet the most vile sexist racist article - one with world wide attention and revulsion- absolute silence

And there is Camilla working with domestic violence charities and still not a word . Shameful .
We all know the palace spends a lot of its time feeding stories or muffling stories or manipulating their image, so to say that they are 'above it all' is nonsense
They are deep in this one and that's why they are stuck

They will probably eventually dribble out something and it will be too little too late and they are already seen for what they are .

People keep referring to Game of Thrones.

Well I've never seen it and nor has many of my friends. So the reference doesn't make sense to us.

So the fact its based on an existing fictional story means absolutely diddly squat sweet fuck all

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Oh and the entire incident has completely vindicated what H and M said in the Netflix programme .
It's even worse than they said .
And it's all out there .

😂😂Antelope is like when your toddler invents an imaginary friend and creates scarily elaborate plots centered around them and will not let go of said imaginary friend despite gentle coaxing.