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King Charles to pay for Duke of York’s private security

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tatalan · 20/12/2022 01:35

Monarch expected to foot £3m bill for guards.

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2022.12.19-193449/www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/12/19/king-charles-pay-duke-yorks-private-security-refusing-do-prince/#selection-1193.1-1193.56" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">King Charles to pay for Duke of York’s private security

Fascinating. What do we think?

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Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:17

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:15

you probably should watch it tbh if you are going to discuss the issue, you may learn something...

I can’t watch it. I told you, I can’t afford a TV license so cannot watch anything on TV or anything on BBC catch up/iplayer ever. Sorry, but that’s my reality.

minou123 · 20/12/2022 12:18

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:17

I can’t watch it. I told you, I can’t afford a TV license so cannot watch anything on TV or anything on BBC catch up/iplayer ever. Sorry, but that’s my reality.

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YouTube. That's free

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:18

minou123 · 20/12/2022 12:05

Hmm. You could have just googled it.
All I had to put in was"BBC Epstein and Masked Ball"

www.bbc.com/news/uk-49411215.amp

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Thank you. Appears Ms Maxwell was involved too?

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:19

minou123 · 20/12/2022 12:18

YouTube. That's free

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It’s on YouTube? Going to check.

minou123 · 20/12/2022 12:21

Here is a link to the interview on YouTube @Onnabugeisha

Oh yes. She has recently been convicted too. She's currently in prison.

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:21

I can’t watch it. I told you, I can’t afford a TV license so cannot watch anything on TV or anything on BBC catch up/iplayer ever. Sorry, but that’s my reality.

Well watch it on Youtube or don't watch it but as I said you should be aware of the full situation if you are discussing it....

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:22

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:19

It’s on YouTube? Going to check.

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Wow. So it is. Thank you for that. I have saved to watch. Need that free info :)

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:24

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:21

I can’t watch it. I told you, I can’t afford a TV license so cannot watch anything on TV or anything on BBC catch up/iplayer ever. Sorry, but that’s my reality.

Well watch it on Youtube or don't watch it but as I said you should be aware of the full situation if you are discussing it....

Sorry, but are you saying no one can discuss anything on MN unless they already know everything about it? No one can ask questions or ask for info?

Or have I misunderstood your post?

FurAndFeathers · 20/12/2022 12:24

Ukri · 20/12/2022 09:40

A person is not guilty of a crime by association.

Im not debating this with you since your logic is so all over the place I am having difficulty understanding what you are even saying.

You said he is a convicted sex offender. I said I'm talking about Andrew. You said you are too. I'm struggling to follow.

You do realise that Sarah Ferguson was also friends with JE? And he attended Princess Beatrice's birthday party socialising with most of the Royals and numerous other high profile Brits. And how about Bill Clinton? What about Ralph Fiennes? Stephen Hawking - he went to Epstein parties?

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Whataboutery at its finest!
is Prince Charles paying their protection @Ukri ? No thought not. So they’re irrelevant to this discussion.

I find it fascinating when folk like you bend over backwards to support the friendship of a privileged rich male with a convicted child sex offender, and defend his choices.

I mean, of all the ‘good causes’ out there you’re choosing to spend your time defending a man who consistently prioritised his friendship with a convicted child rapist over his public duty.
its an unusual way to prioritise your time!

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:25

Sorry, but are you saying no one can discuss anything on MN unless they already know everything about it? No one can ask questions or ask for info?

No you have misunderstood & are being disingenuous as you know exactly what I mean.

AreOttersJustWetCats · 20/12/2022 12:26

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:16

I’m not? I’m asking for evidence there was such a friendship during the years any reasonable person should have known about Epstein. What’s wrong with that?

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That's really not how you're coming across.

Prince Andrew himself has admitted to staying in Epstein's mansion for three days in 2010. If you are close enough to someone that they give your ex wife (who you still live with) thousands of pounds and let you stay in their home, that's not just a vague acquaintance. It is clear that there was an ongoing friendship/ association between the two men.

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:27

Yes, I saw he did a sever ties thing in 2010 after Epstein was released. The photo looks pretty serious. No happy faces. He was out in the US anyway as trade envoy so went to NYC…not sure if asked to or ? But one photo in 2010 years doesn’t = a friendship past 2001 imho. Not for celebrities that are literally tracked everywhere they go.

Its very odd to post the above without watching the actual interview...

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:27

and claim you are just asking questions 😆

BethJ62 · 20/12/2022 12:28

Still struggling to think that anyone over the age of 16 thinks 62 is elderly .

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:30

minou123 · 20/12/2022 12:21

Here is a link to the interview on YouTube @Onnabugeisha

Oh yes. She has recently been convicted too. She's currently in prison.

Thank you again for being so helpful.
Yes I know Maxwell was trafficking and in prison. It’s just so hard to know who knew what and when really. I had a coworker that was arrested for running a child abuse ring. He was distributing child abuse images and videos and I had no fucking clue. I’d taken my DCs to work family picnics and such that he had been at and when the police came to take his work computer away and I found out, I was sick with worry wondering if he’d been looking at my DCs and thinking whatever sick things a pedophile thinks. We were never close work mates but I interacted with him at least once a day. I keep thinking about how good these people can be at fooling others. He got no bail and ended up in prison too.

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:30

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:27

Yes, I saw he did a sever ties thing in 2010 after Epstein was released. The photo looks pretty serious. No happy faces. He was out in the US anyway as trade envoy so went to NYC…not sure if asked to or ? But one photo in 2010 years doesn’t = a friendship past 2001 imho. Not for celebrities that are literally tracked everywhere they go.

Its very odd to post the above without watching the actual interview...

What’s odd? It’s what I have seen to date?

AreOttersJustWetCats · 20/12/2022 12:32

Even just Wikipedia would have told you this stuff though. The wide-eyed "I'm just asking" shtick isn't too convincing tbh

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:32

AreOttersJustWetCats · 20/12/2022 12:26

That's really not how you're coming across.

Prince Andrew himself has admitted to staying in Epstein's mansion for three days in 2010. If you are close enough to someone that they give your ex wife (who you still live with) thousands of pounds and let you stay in their home, that's not just a vague acquaintance. It is clear that there was an ongoing friendship/ association between the two men.

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I didn’t know about any of that though? I think you’re starting to be a bully quite honestly. What’s your problem? You think everyone already knows everything about Prince Andrew and Epstein? It’s not clear to me yet, that’s why I’m going to watch the interview and I’ve taken on board what the helpful posters have posted for me.

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:36

AreOttersJustWetCats · 20/12/2022 12:32

Even just Wikipedia would have told you this stuff though. The wide-eyed "I'm just asking" shtick isn't too convincing tbh

What Wikipedia has was already posted and it dissent show the links.
I’ve been going off the timelines that were in the news that I saw.
Theres no need to get rude and accuse me of being fake. I’m saying what I did know. 🤷‍♀️

KhaleesiOfChaos · 20/12/2022 12:37

AutumnCrow · 20/12/2022 02:34

Can't they just teach him karate or something and give him a panic room?

GrinGrinGrin

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:37

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:25

Sorry, but are you saying no one can discuss anything on MN unless they already know everything about it? No one can ask questions or ask for info?

No you have misunderstood & are being disingenuous as you know exactly what I mean.

No, I really don’t know what you mean then if not that. I honestly don’t.

Onnabugeisha · 20/12/2022 12:43

Thank you again @minou123
Really thankful for your posts.

CheshireSuburbs · 20/12/2022 12:45

Maybe it's more of a 'minder' than security ie to make sure that the RF know who PA is involved with....sort of like a permanent prison guard

sinkyt · 20/12/2022 12:49

What’s odd? It’s what I have seen to date?

the faux innocence is odd.

kingtamponthefurred · 20/12/2022 12:55

Does anyone really care if somebody takes a pot shot at him? There isn't exactly a national shortage of grouchy, pouchy, sleazy sexagenarians.