King Charles to pay for Duke of York’s private security

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Monarch expected to foot £3m bill for guards.

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2022.12.19-193449/www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/12/19/king-charles-pay-duke-yorks-private-security-refusing-do-prince/#selection-1193.1-1193.56" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">King Charles to pay for Duke of York’s private security

Fascinating. What do we think?

I would lay odds that the Queen has left him some money that will pay for this, hence the change . Though I suppose Charlie might have to bridge it, probate tines being what they are

I can't believe you don't know all this. Unfortunately I am on a mob at the mo and can't do all the links to loads of info proving he kept his friendship with JE untill forced not to.

To be honest I don't post on subjects like this until I've acquainted myself with as much of the facts as possible. There's a lot out there to research that isn't BBC or iPlayer

There threads on here you can look up, I e provided endless links on the threads I started, there are lots of newspaper articles and so on.

Do you not know about all the pictures in the press of her at Sandi gham, Ball.oral, sat on royal thrones at Buckingham Palace? It's all out there if you want to inform yourself.

This is getting a bit like...gosh, I didn't know Diana had died 😮

Andrew is his.brother and the father of his.neices
Do we really blame him for protecting Andrew from assassination? That doesn't mean he approves of Andrew's behaviour, only that he is as safe as the rest of the family.

But not Harry , another non working royal. And his wife and GC

It’s all a bit apples and pears though?

Police protection vs private protection.
Based in UK vs based in U.S.

Harry was well protected in the UK, and according to Canadian police, well protected there too. You can’t expect met protection living abroad indefinitely, surely?

This.

Charles is paying Andrew's security with private money but refused to do so with Harry.

It speaks volumes.

Harry uses private protection in the US, no one is talking about Met police protection now.

What's the difference between paying for private protection in the US vs private protection in the UK? Protection is protection, this apple and pears business does not wash.

Do we really blame him for protecting Andrew from assassination? That doesn't mean he approves of Andrew's behaviour, only that he is as safe as the rest of the family.

It's an utter crying shame that you couldn't apply this logic to Charles' OWN SON.

Where is the evidence for 2002-2007 (Epstein was arrested and in prison for 2008-2010)?

Epstein was in prison for 13 months, not 3 years, including work release for part of it. He was released in 2009.

But is Charles paying for Andrews security? The article the OP linked to doesn’t say that he is paying for it. Just that he is “likely to” and “it is expected” that he might do so.

Has anyone actually reported that Charles is paying for Andrews security?

Sigh, well if you must know I was in hospital and oblivious to the world for most of 2019 and 2020 was slow recovery because covid made everything delayed and difficult. So I missed a ton of what went on with the Epstein thing.

Sorry to hear that.

But all that was years and years before

Not really? All the links I’m being shown date from when Epstein was arrested and then died in prison and the investigations into Andrew and Maxwell and so on. I don’t normally care about the RF and read about their parties and such. So I wouldnt have tracked who attended what party or went to the palace. I had no idea Epstein had a conviction in 2008 and so on.

So it was all new to me in 2020. And there was a lot published about it.

@Roussette I am always amazed at the amount of prolific posters on the RF board who claim to have never heard of anything negative the Royal Family has ever done.

But I didn’t claim that? I asked specific questions as there have been many blanks for me with the whole Andrew thing.

The whole point is that Harry wanted to pay for police protection in the UK. He was told that was not possible. Lots of posters on MN were outraged at the idea of someone paying the state for police security and said there were many good reasons it could never happen.
And then up pops Charles saying he will privately pay for Andrew's police security.
So it is possible.

KC has not said anything publicly. BP has not said anything publicly. A newspaper has said it is likely he will pay . That’s it . Non story at the moment .

Honestly, there are only claims that Charles III might pay for Andrew to have private bodyguards with tasers. Andrew has lost the police protection that royals get. That’s gone. That’s what Harry wanted, to pay for actual police protection.

So no, there aren’t even claims that Charles III is privately paying for actual police security. Just claims that Charles III is “likely to” or “might” or is “expected to” pay for personal bodyguards with tasers.

So, no, it’s showing it’s still not possible to privately pay for police protection.

The newspaper article blatantly says ‘private security’ and not ‘police protection’

They are two different things.

You can’t pay privately for police protection, that’s the point

It isn’t police security, surely? So not the same thing.

Okay sorry7 private security.
I am surprised he has still been getting taxpayer-funded security until now.

Charles seems quite happy to help Andrew, just as the Queen did. Allegedly breaking the law by raping a sex-trafficked teenager I guess is no big deal to Charles given some of his other associations.

Why are you surprised?
It’s been made very clear by now that tax payer security is based on need, by level of threat.

If there is a credible threat to him, security would be provided.
The same would apply for Harry, if he were in this country.

I don’t even know where Andrew resides currently?

Im assuming Windsor still, in which case wouldn’t security be encapsulated with security for the whole estate?

Rather than if he left to live in a ransom mansion and KC was still paying?

There are too many variables to make a viable comparison imo

Yes really. All the pics of Maxwell sat on the royal thrones in the Palace and attending Beatrice's birthday party are YEARS ago! She's 32 and it was her 18th!

Exactly. Very odd.

I knew about the spider letters when they came out in the press, ditto about Peter Ball, diversity figures or lack of, Charles's valet, Fawcett and his multiple sackings Epstein as it happened, and much more.
Asking Q's like it never happened is odd

As I said, at the time I had no idea who Maxwell was? How would I? Just some random woman in a photograph in an article I probably barely glanced at.

Are you saying you did know that 16yrs ago that Maxwell was a sex trafficker? And took note of the fact she’d been invited then?