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Yet another Netflix production from H&M

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rumship · 19/12/2022 16:24

Oh please make it stop....

www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2839717/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-feature-Live-Lead-trailer.html

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Roussette · 29/12/2022 20:33

I have no idea about a hug, that sounds pretty mild to me. It was very criticial at the time.
Yes I can compare.

BethJ62 · 29/12/2022 20:47

Yes of course you can compare if you want however - to me- there is no real comparison. SF did not alienate her DC from the Royal Family and she stayed on good terms with The Queen.
I find her repeated jibes , complaints and outright lies about a family she was part of for a very short time very wearisome .
When will she and H realise how lucky they are to have plenty of money , 2 beautiful DC and each other and stop whinging ?

MarshaMelrose · 29/12/2022 20:58

Roussette · 29/12/2022 20:16

Have you read or listened to SF back then? It was damning about the institution and she touted herself out talking about it endlessly.
But of course MM is worse, had to be Hmm
She was lucky there wasn't the SM there is now.

There's a difference between making allegations about faceless courtiers (men in grey suits) and your family members. SF never went after the family like Harry has done.

MarshaMelrose · 29/12/2022 21:17

Well whatever you think they seem to be flying - I wonder what's next ? They are not the first to do this so I don't understand the anger about it. NF could have chosen many celebrities and many would pay - so why do you think they chose M&H?

Netflix are struggling financially. They increased subscribership and yet are still on dodgy, shifting ground. At the moment they need to throw everything they've got to keep subscribers.
Like HAM or not, people seem drawn to watching them. Some people just have that about them and this pair do.
However, the decision to have them narrate was made in May this year. The media tide has turned somewhat against them since. If I were NF, I'd use them as much as possible as soon as possible. They are undeniably charismatic and fascinating to most but that can easily change considering familiarity can bred contempt.

BethJ62 · 29/12/2022 21:39

@MarshaMelrose i’m not sure being voice overs was part of their grand plan but I suppose their grievances against the Royal Family must surely all be known by now so they have to grab whatever work they can .
In the early days I thought they were charismatic but now I just see 2 middle aged moaners .

PicturesOfDogs · 29/12/2022 21:39

The thing is though, just because people tune in to see their docuseries, it doesn’t necessarily follow on they’ll watch them in something else, that doesn’t involve potential salacious gossip.

Most people (me included) watched their series because it’s a bit scandalous.
I wanted to see their side, what they were going to say, if they were going to drop any bombs etc.

I wish them well, but I won’t be watching this series, as it doesn’t interest me, and I’m sure many people will be the same.
We’ll have to wait and see how well it does, but I’m guessing their names don’t have the pull people seem to think, unless it also involves the RF. It’s the gossip, not them, that’s pulling in the viewers I think

Roussette · 29/12/2022 22:28

MarshaMelrose · 29/12/2022 20:58

There's a difference between making allegations about faceless courtiers (men in grey suits) and your family members. SF never went after the family like Harry has done.

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Course not. She knows she can't as she's indulged by them living in luxury on a royal estate despite having left the RF over 25 years ago
And Meghan has never said anything but complimentary about the Queen

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/12/2022 22:35

However, the decision to have them narrate was made in May this year. The media tide has turned somewhat against them since. If I were NF, I'd use them as much as possible as soon as possible.

The media has been against the pair for a long time not just since May but abs the decision was made after the OW interview and backlash so NF were fully aware.

I can't see how they can use H&M if they are are already tied into a contract with NF. Meghan is pretty savvy so I can't see that happening anyway. I'm doubt NF is their only source of income.

MarshaMelrose · 29/12/2022 23:27

Course not. She knows she can't as she's indulged by them living in luxury on a royal estate despite having left the RF over 25 years ago
And Meghan has never said anything but complimentary about the Queen.

Don't kid yourself. All three of them are all about the money. They're all using their titles and connections to grasp as much as they can in their greedy mitts.

MarshaMelrose · 29/12/2022 23:41

PreparationPreparationPrep · 29/12/2022 22:35

However, the decision to have them narrate was made in May this year. The media tide has turned somewhat against them since. If I were NF, I'd use them as much as possible as soon as possible.

The media has been against the pair for a long time not just since May but abs the decision was made after the OW interview and backlash so NF were fully aware.

I can't see how they can use H&M if they are are already tied into a contract with NF. Meghan is pretty savvy so I can't see that happening anyway. I'm doubt NF is their only source of income.

The media has been against the pair for a long time not just since May but abs the decision was made after the OW interview and backlash so NF were fully aware.

I think after their OW interview in March 2021, there was a lot of sympathy for them internationally. And I think that held steady fir quite a while. Where you just started to notice the change was when the podcasts came out and Meghan seemed to start criticising her experience with the RF again. And the there was the announcement of the documentary and the book and the queen dies. And suddenly people are not so sympathetic. Then once the press start poking fun and tv skits are done about them, suddenly they're in danger of losing credibility.
A lot will hinge on his book. Where will he go with it? The rumours are that NF had to edit the documentary because it didn't tally with the book. Which memories are correct? The doc or the book? Will he win over more sympathy or will it just try the patience. Not long to see.

Roussette · 30/12/2022 05:22

MarshaMelrose · 29/12/2022 23:41

The media has been against the pair for a long time not just since May but abs the decision was made after the OW interview and backlash so NF were fully aware.

I think after their OW interview in March 2021, there was a lot of sympathy for them internationally. And I think that held steady fir quite a while. Where you just started to notice the change was when the podcasts came out and Meghan seemed to start criticising her experience with the RF again. And the there was the announcement of the documentary and the book and the queen dies. And suddenly people are not so sympathetic. Then once the press start poking fun and tv skits are done about them, suddenly they're in danger of losing credibility.
A lot will hinge on his book. Where will he go with it? The rumours are that NF had to edit the documentary because it didn't tally with the book. Which memories are correct? The doc or the book? Will he win over more sympathy or will it just try the patience. Not long to see.

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Totally disagree

The worst criticism was after the OW Interview, MN nearly imploded, it was endless.
They shouldn't have done that one and stuck with the 6part NF series which was better received. There was nothing to criticise in the podcasts, she did well with those

It's amazing that the most incensed detractors are the ones bringing publicity and furthering their exposure by continually talking about them online! Ironic.

Coronateachingagain · 30/12/2022 16:57

vera99 · 29/12/2022 06:41

They are aligning themselves with a worthy project that should hopefully get these inspiring messages of leadership and hope to a wider audience. A rising tide lifts all ships after all.

They need a good strong tide and a bit of luck to get out of the messy spot they have put themselves into.
Buying focus (yes that was what they did with that 2019 one produced and done by other people) will not be enough. She has the survival skills and resilience though she will need to make up for his shortcomings on that front

LBFseBrom · 30/12/2022 17:06

I agree with Rousette.
So many people enjoy scandal and the downfall of others. The press know and exploit that.

Coronateaching, I think Meghan and Harry are doing fine and will now move onwards and upwards; there's no big mess.

StormzyinaTCup · 30/12/2022 17:18

I think Meghan and Harry are doing fine and will now move onwards and upwards; there's no big mess.

They have well and truly painted themselves into a corner, it is a bit of a mess but it's a mess of their own making. It will be interesting to see how they get themselves out of it whilst retaining some credibility. Hats off to them if they can achieve it (especially if they are doing their own PR) - are they still doing their own PR?

Coronateachingagain · 30/12/2022 18:40

@StormzyinaTCup has explained it much better than me 👍

CathyorClaire · 30/12/2022 19:41

Correct me if I have this wrong but they were expected to pay the production costs for their docu-series upfront? and they've now paid to be inserted into work the Mandela Foundation funded but which hasn't found a buyer until now, presumably being deemed too worthy risky a proposition ?

Couple that with the dropping of 'Pearl' (although that might be a blessing in disguise if they'd been expected to fund that too) and NF would appear to be taking the gullible duo for the ride of their lives.

Roussette · 30/12/2022 19:45

You are talking about them like they haven't a clue about finances. I am sure they have.
They are self supporting so have to be.

Sorry if your wish that NF is taking them for a ride might well not be true!

CathyorClaire · 30/12/2022 19:49

Harry at least has never had to give paying for anything a minute's thought up until recently just as he's never had to be a businessman.

At best he's on a steep learning curve.

Ohnonevermind · 30/12/2022 19:50

if they bought it, they knew they would get refunded by Netflix for buying it, they didn’t take any risks.

Netflix refunds them their costs plus probably 30% (industry standard) to pay for the ads and distribution costs

PreparationPreparationPrep · 30/12/2022 19:51

Yes and better late to learn than never

Ohnonevermind · 30/12/2022 19:53

Wasn’t Harry the expert on the difference between calendar and fiscal years 🤣🤣🤣 so a financial guru clearly

CathyorClaire · 30/12/2022 19:53

But the costs of making it were borne by the Mandela Foundation.

Do they get their cut back?

PreparationPreparationPrep · 30/12/2022 19:54

Ohnonevermind · 30/12/2022 19:50

if they bought it, they knew they would get refunded by Netflix for buying it, they didn’t take any risks.

Netflix refunds them their costs plus probably 30% (industry standard) to pay for the ads and distribution costs

So does that mean that their decision was savvy or not. Or do we just hedge our bets and keep guessing until we hear the details

Ohnonevermind · 30/12/2022 19:57

@CathyorClaire

The Mandela made it independently by the looks of it, they weren’t paid in advance by the Sussex’s or Netflix.

if that’s the case they will have sold the rights to the Sussex’s and archewell , who have inserted their presenter lines and sold it onto Netflix

I wonder why it’s 31 December last minute, it wasn’t in any earlier Netflix schedules. Very curious

Ohnonevermind · 30/12/2022 19:58

They wouldn’t make any money on it really I would guess. It’s not an expensive documentary and will have to pay Netflix for the marketing and distribution costs