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And so the excuses from H&M begin.

180 replies

nogginatemycat · 16/12/2022 11:55

Well well, reviews are in and now its time to blame some one else.

Speaking on her podcast hours after the release of the final three episodes on Netflix, Schofield said: “From what I’m being told, the Sussexes are a bit disappointed with the final product.”
“The Sussexes feel like the docuseries leans too much into the drama and victimhood — more than they had anticipated… Today, Meghan wants to be seen as a thought leader and a changemaker, and they want to put the past behind them,” she added.
The podcast hose also added that Meghan ‘recognizes that the public wants to move on’ from their royal drama as well.
Schofield further shared that the Sussexes’ displeasure arises from the fact that they did not have much creative control over the project.
“Ultimately, the final project is not necessarily a love letter to their causes, and it is not the vehicle that they were looking for to set the record straight,” Schofield said.

www.geo.tv/latest/458981-prince-harry-meghan-markle-disappointed-with-final-netflix-documentary

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Luredbyapomegranate · 17/12/2022 14:09

sashagabadon · 16/12/2022 12:05

Oh dear! Maybe we will get a behind the scenes documentary by the director on the making of the Harry and Meghan documentary. I would watch that

Now that’s an idea..

MrsFinkelstein · 17/12/2022 14:10

Notallislost · 17/12/2022 01:02

So.just proving the point they are trying tommake about reporting..... they didn't actually say that, it is thought that they have said they are disappointed...... bit a difference there and again putting words in their mouths to create a yet another negative narrative 🙄

I completely get your point, and I agree to an extent, we can't know until they themselves say that.

But, it does jibe with previous reporting that said they were trying to change to focus of the series after the Queens funeral. And with what Meghan said in The Cut (I think, could have been VF) interview where she said the Director had a slightly different vision to them.

healthadvice123 · 17/12/2022 14:29

Always thought would only be one winner in this and thats netflix

healthadvice123 · 17/12/2022 14:30

@AclowncalledAlice the same goes for anyone inclu yourself and all posters telling people to stop
If you don't want to read etc scroll on by

healthadvice123 · 17/12/2022 14:32

@RaRaRaspoutine why does everyone say that its not just about her , its him too and many have been more critical of harry rather than Meghan

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/12/2022 17:09

Maybe the camera operators were there a lot more of the time - maybe all the time - and these were the only interesting bits?

Remembering Harry's comments about being triggered whener a camera clicks I'd be very surprised if he'd accept them being there all the time - but perhaps he feels differently about cameras if their operators are paying him?

Or maybe the more intimate and emotional scenes were faked "recreated" later, and they're just one more thing we shouldn't take literally?

musingsinmidlife · 17/12/2022 17:27

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/12/2022 17:09

Maybe the camera operators were there a lot more of the time - maybe all the time - and these were the only interesting bits?

Remembering Harry's comments about being triggered whener a camera clicks I'd be very surprised if he'd accept them being there all the time - but perhaps he feels differently about cameras if their operators are paying him?

Or maybe the more intimate and emotional scenes were faked "recreated" later, and they're just one more thing we shouldn't take literally?

They didn't film in their home, they used a different house for filming so I think all these supposed candid moments were recreations. The texts arriving, the crying, the Oprah interview reactions, the candid kitchen moments etc. The location they used for filming was 888 Lilac Drive, just up the road from their home. It was for sale and empty at the time and so a good property for filming.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/12/2022 19:06

I'd forgotten that Netflix reportedly filmed in someone else's house, musingsinmidlife, though weren't the kitchen scenes supposed to have been at Nottingham Cottage and some at the Vancouver Island place?

So unless those intimate scenes happened right on cue as regards location and time, it seems unavoidable that yet again all isn't as it's been presented

Colour me surprised Hmm

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 17/12/2022 19:42

They didn't film in their home, they used a different house for filming so I think all these supposed candid moments were recreations. The texts arriving, the crying, the Oprah interview reactions, the candid kitchen moments etc. The location they used for filming was 888 Lilac Drive, just up the road from their home. It was for sale and empty at the time and so a good property for filming.

But shouldn't it have been labelled as being a recreation rather than genuine footage of events as they happened in that case? I assumed that was accepted practice when making documentaries.

I hope the article is true if it means that they finally move on.

purpledalmation · 17/12/2022 19:53

Apparently it's a narcissistic trait to never take responsibility for anything. They did this through the series and Oprah interview, and now it's going belly up, yet again they are not taking responsibility.

ThePoshUns · 17/12/2022 20:37

I read in the Times they want the RF to apologise to them before they can reconcile. I think they will have a long wait.
I enjoyed seeing their beautiful children in the documentary but the rest was self pitying drivel. Such self sabotage.

MarshaMelrose · 17/12/2022 20:47

ThePoshUns · 17/12/2022 20:37

I read in the Times they want the RF to apologise to them before they can reconcile. I think they will have a long wait.
I enjoyed seeing their beautiful children in the documentary but the rest was self pitying drivel. Such self sabotage.

Charles response...

A senior Palace source told The Times: “If they want to get in touch with the King, they know where he lives"

smilesy · 17/12/2022 20:55

I am wondering, and obviously I don’t know for sure, if they don’t have a fairly large “oh fuck” moment when the Queen died. They suddenly realised that they had put together this documentary and book with lots of criticism which seems to be in the direction of the the then PoW and the Cambridges, and now they were faced with them being the King and the new Waleses. Now they have a Coronation that they are expected to attend involving the family and institution that they have lobbed their truth bombs at. They are really in a corner. If they go, they will be labelled hypocrites, but if they don’t they are further distancing themselves from the Royal brand.

MarshaMelrose · 17/12/2022 21:11

smilesy · 17/12/2022 20:55

I am wondering, and obviously I don’t know for sure, if they don’t have a fairly large “oh fuck” moment when the Queen died. They suddenly realised that they had put together this documentary and book with lots of criticism which seems to be in the direction of the the then PoW and the Cambridges, and now they were faced with them being the King and the new Waleses. Now they have a Coronation that they are expected to attend involving the family and institution that they have lobbed their truth bombs at. They are really in a corner. If they go, they will be labelled hypocrites, but if they don’t they are further distancing themselves from the Royal brand.

They must have known the Queen didn't have long. And even if they thought she'd still be alive, they portrayed her as a doddery old woman who couldn't quite grasp what was going on and was incapable of saying she'd speak to her grandson if she wanted to. I know a lot of doddery old women and, believe me, if they want to speak to their grandchild, they will. So they weren't bothered about being rude about her, who he claims to adore and have a special relationship with (that no one else had), why would he care about being rude about his father and brother.

Coronateachingagain · 18/12/2022 10:42

The Queen was probably smarter than anyone thought. After that Sandringham meeting, who would want a second round of emotional download on a one to one basis. And at her age, she was probably advised not to do it, not much to gain from it, in fact more to lose, from a health perspective for her too. So it was probably good advice.

I loved "In fact, I am told I am busy all week". Then Harry assuming she did not agree with the decision not to meet 🙄 take the hint Harry, she is not into a meeting. Hard to accept for him

Coronateachingagain · 18/12/2022 10:51

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/12/2022 17:09

Maybe the camera operators were there a lot more of the time - maybe all the time - and these were the only interesting bits?

Remembering Harry's comments about being triggered whener a camera clicks I'd be very surprised if he'd accept them being there all the time - but perhaps he feels differently about cameras if their operators are paying him?

Or maybe the more intimate and emotional scenes were faked "recreated" later, and they're just one more thing we shouldn't take literally?

There is a Twitter going around about this which is very funny. I will dig it out

Coronateachingagain · 18/12/2022 10:52

In other words, it is just a copyright issue, not a privacy issue

amyneedssleep · 18/12/2022 10:58

A quick google of 'Kinsey Schofield Meghan Markle' shows a woman stoking the fires of Meghan criticism in order to make money. There is absolutely nothing in this article to prove she's talking factually; she's quoting mysterious sources, using deliberately provocative language such as 'thought leader' and just generally adding to this idea that the M&H are never satisified.

We're living in an age of disinformation and monetisation of public outrage. When are we going to start interrogating our sources more carefully?

BellePeppa · 18/12/2022 10:59

lifeinthehills · 17/12/2022 07:19

I've watched the first four episodes so far. Nothing too controversial yet? It's interesting to hear things from their pov.

Haven’t we been hearing things from their point of view since they left? I mean they haven’t shut up for nearly three years.

They are over exposing themselves and like any over exposed celebrity people get bored and move on. If they had any sense they would keep a very low profile in 2023 and re-emerge a year or two later richer (thank you Netflix/Spotify/Random House), calmer, happier and at peace with their incredibly fortunate, lovely life that took minimal work and effort to achieve.

pinneddownbytabbies · 18/12/2022 11:01

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/12/2022 17:09

Maybe the camera operators were there a lot more of the time - maybe all the time - and these were the only interesting bits?

Remembering Harry's comments about being triggered whener a camera clicks I'd be very surprised if he'd accept them being there all the time - but perhaps he feels differently about cameras if their operators are paying him?

Or maybe the more intimate and emotional scenes were faked "recreated" later, and they're just one more thing we shouldn't take literally?

That's just it, isn't it? If you feel that triggered by the presence of cameras and the media in your life, you'd move heaven and earth to keep your family as far out of the limelight as possible.

RosettaStormer · 18/12/2022 11:01

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 17/12/2022 19:42

They didn't film in their home, they used a different house for filming so I think all these supposed candid moments were recreations. The texts arriving, the crying, the Oprah interview reactions, the candid kitchen moments etc. The location they used for filming was 888 Lilac Drive, just up the road from their home. It was for sale and empty at the time and so a good property for filming.

But shouldn't it have been labelled as being a recreation rather than genuine footage of events as they happened in that case? I assumed that was accepted practice when making documentaries.

I hope the article is true if it means that they finally move on.

I don't think that's true as I recognised several scenes from their zoom calls.

BellePeppa · 18/12/2022 11:24

healthadvice123 · 17/12/2022 14:32

@RaRaRaspoutine why does everyone say that its not just about her , its him too and many have been more critical of harry rather than Meghan

I dislike Harry more than Meghan. I don’t like M but I find H far worse. He’s not only stabbing his own family in the back but he is continuing to twist the knife. M just handed him the knife - he didn’t have to use it.

sitandwait · 18/12/2022 11:35

We're living in an age of disinformation and monetisation of public outrage. When are we going to start interrogating our sources more carefully?

Well, quite. Everyone has an agenda in saying what they say. That's also true of Harry and Meghan.

amyneedssleep · 18/12/2022 12:51

sitandwait · 18/12/2022 11:35

We're living in an age of disinformation and monetisation of public outrage. When are we going to start interrogating our sources more carefully?

Well, quite. Everyone has an agenda in saying what they say. That's also true of Harry and Meghan.

The difference is that M&H's claims ARE thoroughly interrogated from the moment they make them. They ARE being held accountable for the things they're saying. The press routinely scrutinise their words and actions.

There is not the same energy for those same tabloids, websites and TV show printing and amplifying the words of so-called royal experts. Even on this thread, very few people have spoken about Schofield's former commentary on M&H and how her history of heavily criticising them makes it very unlikely she'd have any real insight into their personal thoughts.

BlackFriday · 18/12/2022 14:09

The sit down part of the interviews with Meghan with the arched windows leading out to a sea view were from a different house.
Other scenes were shot in their own home.