Page 17 | Kate's Official Response to the Netflix Documentary

wishingyouwell · 17/12/2022 18:06

No the affair rumours are absolutely true and as Coren says, everyone in the right circle, knows.

susan12345678 · 17/12/2022 18:09

No the affair rumours are absolutely true and as Coren says, everyone in the right circle, knows

FALSE. He admitted it was made up and he lied about it for a joke.

fartichoke · 17/12/2022 18:10

wishingyouwell · 17/12/2022 17:47

Where was Kate after Grenfell? A fire caused by the negligence of the Royal Borough she lives in? Dead, grieving and displaced people. Dead and injured children.
Where was she? Lazy, entitled and uncaring ultimately. Actions speak to your compassion or otherwise.
Where were Kate and William when their newborn baby nephew was compared to an animal by Danny Baker? Where was their response? They respond when they choose to as they did following Tatler's attack on Kate's mother and class and following the latest racist slur against the Black lady who visited KP as they realise how bad it will look for them. They should have responded to the disgraceful racism levelled against their own family. They complain and explain when they want to through injunctions. Through friends at the Daily Mail. The never complain and never explain is a fallacy used to draw sympathy and is totally false. Test it out by starting a thread on William's affair if in doubt.

Do you really think every member of the royal family parading up to Grenfell in nice clothes is what the survivors really wanted or needed? Key figures went to pay their respects at the appropriate times. Kate and William unexpectedly attended and spoke at the Grenfell memorial this year, unexpected so that there wasn't all this overshadowing of the event itself - did you know that?

Why on earth are you demanding a public display in the smouldering wreckage of Grenfell Tower from Kate? Why would you expect Kate to personally make a statement to the media to publicly denounce one vile racist, who the rest of the country had already condemned forcefully because it was so outlandishly beyond vile?

What the hell do you want from her?

wishingyouwell · 17/12/2022 18:11

No. He remembered what happened to Diana when she started speaking up and deleted the tweet in fear.

Blossomtoes · 17/12/2022 18:11

You seem very invested in this obvious lie @wishingyouwell.

barnbaby · 17/12/2022 18:11

@Xenia are you actually suggesting that they are not kind as compared to, say, The Tampon King. Who married someone without loving her whilst carrying on an affair behind her back. Who is known to have anger issues and take it out on his staff. Or as compared to, Prince William, who strung Kate along for years whilst shagging his way through most of the hangers on connected to the Beaufort Hunt (yup, I know this, as does most of Gloucs and Wilts) And who is most likely carrying on with this behaviour with at least one woman outside his marriage.
The Tampon King has some pretty dodgy financial stuff going on to, taking money from dubious sources. Is that 'kind.' Also he was pretty critical of his mum and her parenting in various documentaries. Kind?

Janieread · 17/12/2022 18:13

wishingyouwell · 17/12/2022 18:06

No the affair rumours are absolutely true and as Coren says, everyone in the right circle, knows.

I'm sorry but the whole thing was a piss take.

wishingyouwell · 17/12/2022 18:14

It was their nephew and was just one of the many racial slurs that had been levelled against Harry and Megan.
Why would they make a statement about the lady who visited KP and not to denounce the racism against a newborn baby? PR wise it matters now. It didn't then. That's why.

Spectre8 · 17/12/2022 18:14

barnbaby · 17/12/2022 17:49

I want my daughters to look up to a woman like Meghan. I don't want them to think that their aim in life should be to be a subservient woman like Kate who gave up her voice and her independence for a man. Meghan is a terrific role model for today's teens and luckily they seem to admire her much more than they do the role Kate plays. I am sure Kate is a great mum behind the scenes, but really it is 2022, let the woman be real.

100% this. I couldn't sit back and stay quiet and the Royal family shouldn't of either. It should of been enough is enough media, you've crossed the line. Why they insist on continuing to accept this is what women in RF have to put up with.. just shows how they refuse to modernise. Allowing misogyny to continue.

Who on earth here would be happy if their family or husband stayed quiet whilst your dragged through the mud by someone (i.e. media).

There is no way I would ever tell my daughters that Kate is some role model because she doesn't put a foot wrong and stays quiet. No way.

Janieread · 17/12/2022 18:15

wishingyouwell · 17/12/2022 17:50

Your 'Friend' at the Sun is lying to you @Janieread

No, he isn't. You sound madly over invested. Are you secretly shagging PW?

Christmasinbed · 17/12/2022 18:17

I want my daughters to look up to a woman like Meghan

You might say that now but you'll change your mind in the future when she leaves H and the real mud-slinging starts.

rumship · 17/12/2022 18:18

wishingyouwell · 17/12/2022 18:06

No the affair rumours are absolutely true and as Coren says, everyone in the right circle, knows.

🤣 and my antie Denise, who knows bob said his nephew siad his neighbour said it was false and I should know there was n the right circles.

Janieread · 17/12/2022 18:19

There is no way I would ever tell my daughters that Kate is some role model because she doesn't put a foot wrong and stays quiet. No way.

I think her work on behalf of charity is laudable, and her apparent willingness to visit boring uk businesses is quite a skill. If we are going to have a RF at all, then she certainly isn't a hideous example. Of course it would be nice if we could respect Kate AND Meghan, but clearly on Mumsnet we have to pick a side, which is silly.

barnbaby · 17/12/2022 18:27

@Janieread I didn't say that I didn't like her, just that I didn't want my daughters to ever think it was ever worth not having a voice. When we can't speak out and be ourselves, we have nothing. So I wouldn't want them to want to be like that, even if it meant that their work could involve giving their time to charities because their lives were entirely funded from other means. I will say that I don't think Kate Middleton was ever on a trajectory to be someone involved in charitable work and she is only like that because it is her role in the royal family. Meghan strikes me as someone who was interested in charity work long before she met Prince Harry. I suspect Kate would have ended up with a banker with a decent budget for clothes and lots of children if she hadn't met William but that is only my personal opinion. I don't think charity work would have come in to her life beyond maybe the PTA of a glam school.

I also don't think it can be healthy to have to be so thin, so manicured, so presentable, so smiley even when you don' feel like it. I don't want my daughters to ever feel they need to be that thin.

PeaceJoySleep · 17/12/2022 18:28

Oh come on, her ability to rise above everything Inc a decade of being dragged by the media is impressive. She clearly resilient. Things that might hurt you or I, she is less reactive to hurtful things.
Being sensitive and reactive, I admire that.

Gilmorehill · 17/12/2022 18:32

fartichoke · 17/12/2022 18:10

Do you really think every member of the royal family parading up to Grenfell in nice clothes is what the survivors really wanted or needed? Key figures went to pay their respects at the appropriate times. Kate and William unexpectedly attended and spoke at the Grenfell memorial this year, unexpected so that there wasn't all this overshadowing of the event itself - did you know that?

Why on earth are you demanding a public display in the smouldering wreckage of Grenfell Tower from Kate? Why would you expect Kate to personally make a statement to the media to publicly denounce one vile racist, who the rest of the country had already condemned forcefully because it was so outlandishly beyond vile?

What the hell do you want from her?

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The Queen and William visited on the Friday of that week. I remember it well. I don’t think the entire RF had to show their faces.

Janieread · 17/12/2022 18:36

barnbaby · 17/12/2022 18:27

@Janieread I didn't say that I didn't like her, just that I didn't want my daughters to ever think it was ever worth not having a voice. When we can't speak out and be ourselves, we have nothing. So I wouldn't want them to want to be like that, even if it meant that their work could involve giving their time to charities because their lives were entirely funded from other means. I will say that I don't think Kate Middleton was ever on a trajectory to be someone involved in charitable work and she is only like that because it is her role in the royal family. Meghan strikes me as someone who was interested in charity work long before she met Prince Harry. I suspect Kate would have ended up with a banker with a decent budget for clothes and lots of children if she hadn't met William but that is only my personal opinion. I don't think charity work would have come in to her life beyond maybe the PTA of a glam school.

I also don't think it can be healthy to have to be so thin, so manicured, so presentable, so smiley even when you don' feel like it. I don't want my daughters to ever feel they need to be that thin.

Well, her looks don't exist just to influence other women. Everything you've written about her is a complete stereotype and hugely judgemental. I hope you teach your girls to like all kinds of people, particularly if they seem perfectly pleasant and hard working.

Abra1t · 17/12/2022 18:37

Janieread · 17/12/2022 17:47

Rubbish. It's been widely debunked. Even my mate who writes for the Sun says its not true.

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Kate's Official Response to the Netflix Documentary

barnbaby · 17/12/2022 18:43

@Janieread They make their own judgements at the end of the day, as we all do. And they have nothing against Kate at all, they don't judge how she looks too thin, that is just me being a worrying parent and thinking that is isn't a great role model look.
However my daughters do really admire Meghan as do all of their friends. So she's doing something right.

RentalBar · 17/12/2022 18:43

I think Kate is resilient and has a very supportive and loving family, her sister, brother and their partners haven't ever gossiped about the RF and they just seem like a tight knit unit, something to aspire to. Her parents seem rock solid.

The way Kate comes across, she is self-assured, confident and secure in herself. She is able to manage her emotions and conveys inner strength, silk glove iron fist. Meghan is strong-minded, opinionated and bold but doesn't manage her emotions well. She has a victim mentality, as has Harry. Kate lucked out with her parents.

Itaintwhatyoudoitsthewaythatyoudoit · 17/12/2022 18:44

Talia99 · 17/12/2022 17:58

So you’re saying that since Meghan did it too, it must show class? Bearing in mind there are multiple threads effectively saying ‘Meghan has no class, Kate is better’, I’m not sure that saying Kate and Meghan do exactly the same sort of things (showing up at vigils / memorials etc. with the press in tow) is the mic drop you think it is.

I do think you are right though - most of the complaints about Meghan (courts the press, does things for publicity with no follow through, tips off paps as to where she is to get ‘good’ pictures) absolutely do apply to Kate.

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I saw a photo of MM today. It was taken as she was preparing to attend a function/an event/ a public appearance. She was wearing a coat and one of those beautiful little round hats with netting. There were three people fixing her clothes and hair before she stepped out. I presume Kate has the same number of people if not more. For all the posters saying that Kate is 'immaculately groomed', wouldn't be all be groomed to the hilt if we had upwards of three people making sure we were before we stepped out. All I can think of is the absolute cost and waste of money it is to ensure that perfectly regular people look a certain way at all times. Presumably even the kids have additional people making sure they are shiny before they step out in public/in an official capacity.

The cost of keeping them is extortionate. It would be a really good idea to have an open application process so other people could apply for the opportunity to work as members of the firm too. It wouldn't suit everyone but there are plenty of people it would suit very well to avail of the benefits of life in this firm. It could be a rolling job - employ them for five years at a time. Tourists would still come. The 'traditions' could be kept although the traditions are only kept presently if they suit the RF to keep them. It would be an altogether fairer system. Make being a member a lottery. Officially.

Theunamedcat · 17/12/2022 18:46

barnbaby · 17/12/2022 18:27

@Janieread I didn't say that I didn't like her, just that I didn't want my daughters to ever think it was ever worth not having a voice. When we can't speak out and be ourselves, we have nothing. So I wouldn't want them to want to be like that, even if it meant that their work could involve giving their time to charities because their lives were entirely funded from other means. I will say that I don't think Kate Middleton was ever on a trajectory to be someone involved in charitable work and she is only like that because it is her role in the royal family. Meghan strikes me as someone who was interested in charity work long before she met Prince Harry. I suspect Kate would have ended up with a banker with a decent budget for clothes and lots of children if she hadn't met William but that is only my personal opinion. I don't think charity work would have come in to her life beyond maybe the PTA of a glam school.

I also don't think it can be healthy to have to be so thin, so manicured, so presentable, so smiley even when you don' feel like it. I don't want my daughters to ever feel they need to be that thin.

If you wish to empower your daughters perhaps you should start by setting the example not to judge people on appearance calling someone too slim too smiley too manicured etc its ridiculous that in this day an age a woman can be criticised for taking care of herself my sister is athletic she has the same body type as Kate at FIFTY I wouldn't dream of being critical towards her because it's her choice

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/12/2022 18:46

Republics have justice

What, like Somalia, Zimbabwe, North Korea, Yemen, Chad, Liberia, etc, etc?

Republics all, but I doubt you'd want to be subjected to their systems of "justice"

Gilmorehill · 17/12/2022 18:50

Itaintwhatyoudoitsthewaythatyoudoit · 17/12/2022 18:44

I saw a photo of MM today. It was taken as she was preparing to attend a function/an event/ a public appearance. She was wearing a coat and one of those beautiful little round hats with netting. There were three people fixing her clothes and hair before she stepped out. I presume Kate has the same number of people if not more. For all the posters saying that Kate is 'immaculately groomed', wouldn't be all be groomed to the hilt if we had upwards of three people making sure we were before we stepped out. All I can think of is the absolute cost and waste of money it is to ensure that perfectly regular people look a certain way at all times. Presumably even the kids have additional people making sure they are shiny before they step out in public/in an official capacity.

The cost of keeping them is extortionate. It would be a really good idea to have an open application process so other people could apply for the opportunity to work as members of the firm too. It wouldn't suit everyone but there are plenty of people it would suit very well to avail of the benefits of life in this firm. It could be a rolling job - employ them for five years at a time. Tourists would still come. The 'traditions' could be kept although the traditions are only kept presently if they suit the RF to keep them. It would be an altogether fairer system. Make being a member a lottery. Officially.

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That’s quite a presumption, given that Kate did her own makeup for her wedding day. She wanted to look ‘like herself’.

Spectre8 · 17/12/2022 18:51

PeaceJoySleep · 17/12/2022 18:28

Oh come on, her ability to rise above everything Inc a decade of being dragged by the media is impressive. She clearly resilient. Things that might hurt you or I, she is less reactive to hurtful things.
Being sensitive and reactive, I admire that.

Not really, she could of spoken out, did something to enforce change in this archaic institution. Been a real spokesperson against the vile nature of media and social media. Instead she stayed quiet. That isn't resilience in my eyes that just looking the other way

Resilience would of been tackling it head on. Her and William did these series of chats about mental health right what a wasted opportunity to not take it further and enforce real chnage starting with the very institution they are a part of. Lead from the front.