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Kate's Official Response to the Netflix Documentary

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KateBain · 16/12/2022 08:37

Keep calm and carry on

Kate's Official Response to the Netflix Documentary
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Karwomannghia · 17/12/2022 08:59

*Undoubtedly

Inspecto · 17/12/2022 09:05

Morestrangethings · 17/12/2022 08:27

I’ve had mental health struggles too. I’d be devastated if my son announced publicly that I was paranoid.

It is a symptom of some mental illnesses. So, It’s nothing to be ashamed of. It’s just that much of the world don’t see it that way. A common way of dismissing a woman is to call her crazy, mad, paranoid. My son would know that. I’m surprised William hasn’t realised that people would take what he said and use it to dismiss Diana. I’ve seen it used that way on here. ‘But everyone knows she was paranoid,’ as in crazy, madwoman.

I don’t think antelopevalley mental illness was a slur.

A common way of dismissing a woman is to call her crazy, mad, paranoid.

Have you heard of the parable of Cassandra?

Dismissing a woman by calling her crazy, mad, paranoid can also be dangerous in case she’s right and everyone else is wrong.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 17/12/2022 09:44

I’m surprised William hasn’t realised that people would take what he said and use it to dismiss Diana.

He was taking aim at the press. He knows way better than any of us if his mother was paranoid, and if that was made worse by Bashir’s forgeries. If you watch the whole speech it was absolutely clear that he wasn’t dismissing or insulting Diana. He was (justifiably) angry at the way she was treated by the press and the harm it did to her.

If anything, I’m surprised that antelopevalley tried to twist that into being a slur, because Diana being treated appallingly by the press is something almost everyone agrees on. Followed closely by the impact the appalling press can have on their target’s mental health. Harry and Meghan discuss the latter repeatedly in their documentary.

nookierookie · 17/12/2022 10:09

Isn't paranoia just believing things that were not true? It doesn't mean that you are actually crazy. It's true that the term has been used to gaslight women, but it is also true that it can be a very fair description of the facts at hand and maybe william's assessment of the facts is correct. Some of the things that Diana said were very believable and she was treated badly, but she also did say and believe some very fanciful things, which is why she was tricked by Martin Bashir. Her own brother, a royal critic, believes that she was tricked by someone who took advantage of her when she was vulnerable - ie she believed someone who was telling her things that were not correct because she was very fearful and anxious (justifiably, but perhaps not all of the things she was anxious about were actually things that were happening). It sounds as if he was leaned on a lot and somewhat inappropriately by his mother for the purposes of reassurance, which must have been very difficult for him.

Manasprey · 17/12/2022 10:13

MintyFreshOne · 17/12/2022 07:59

Upbringing matters.

KM probably was influenced to be more traditional by her mother. But I’m surprised to hear 60s Britain was this traditional?

I think revolutionary 60s only occurred in certain parts of the country. My parents were expected to leave school at 15 and start helping to pay their way. Bollocks to be whatever you want- get out and get earning.

Serenster · 17/12/2022 10:25

KM probably was influenced to be more traditional by her mother. But I’m surprised to hear 60s Britain was this traditional?

70s Britain. Carole Middleton was born in 1955, so was only 15 in 1970. She went to school, and did well in her A levels, worked as secretary, then as a flight attendant, then married Michael Middleton in 1980. So far, so “tradiitonal” I guess, if by that you mean normal for a woman in the 1970s?

As I’m sure everyone knows, after having children she set up her party supplies business, which was doing so well that by 1989 Middleton gave up his own job to join her business, and they obviously did very well from it. That’s the bit that’s not so traditional - the woman setting up a business that becomes the family’s main source of wealth.

Maybe the Middletons bought their children up to have the freedom to do what they wanted with their lives?

Toolowforzero · 17/12/2022 11:27

It’s a family matter. Kate is very professional, hard working and focused. How H & M choose to behave is out of her control. Not a lot she can do about it. Loads of admiration for the work she does and how she conducts herself. I think our late Queen Elizabeth would have been proud.

TrashyPanda · 17/12/2022 12:18

If she had even just gone for a walk with Meghan linking arms and smiling it would have helped

Maybe that’s something Kate would feel uncomfortable with?
Meghan has said that she is a hugger. And that’s absolutely fine. For her. It’s not fine if the other person doesn’t want to be hugged and feels deeply uncomfortable with their personal space being invaded.

TrashyPanda · 17/12/2022 12:20

Toolowforzero · 17/12/2022 11:27

It’s a family matter. Kate is very professional, hard working and focused. How H & M choose to behave is out of her control. Not a lot she can do about it. Loads of admiration for the work she does and how she conducts herself. I think our late Queen Elizabeth would have been proud.

I totally agree

Kate has watched and learned.

she is a very classy lady.

Blossomtoes · 17/12/2022 12:30

Anyone remember her quietly visiting the Sarah Everard vigil? She almost managed to get away with that unnoticed. That’s class.

Dello · 17/12/2022 12:43

If I was Catherine or William I’d have to assume any email/text or conversation I ever now had past or future with Harry or Meghan was going to be shown to public at some point with their spin on it.

I can’t see how trust could be recovered.

I’m so glad she seems to have close family on her side.

If she wants to cope with scrutiny by being polite, shiny, well presented and drawing some attention to worthy causes, then I have no problem with that. She doesn’t have to be a role model for all women. She doesn’t have to tell us any of her opinions. We have no idea if she is emotionally repressed or not. She doesn’t show her private emotions in her public role 🤷‍♀️

czechout · 17/12/2022 13:24

Kate is not classy. This whole 'The RF can't reply' is an attempt to draw sympathy where they certainly don't warrant it. They reply all the time through their friends at the classy Daily Mail. Today she sends a message through 'uncle Gary'.
Before you use the oxymoron 'hard working' to describe Kate, examine the stats for royal engagements since 2011, Kate features as one of the lowest ranking royals for effort, consistency. She is lazy and entitled. She could have used her position to further so many causes over the years however she frankly can't be bothered and ultimately doesn't really clear. Compassion in action requires showing up and pulling your sleeves up.

czechout · 17/12/2022 13:25

Care not clear.

Comedycook · 17/12/2022 13:26

I really do find it funny when people describe Kate as hardworking. She loafed about for the best part of a decade whilst waiting for William to pop the question.

Ittybittytittycomittee · 17/12/2022 13:29

To be fair, she couldn't have had any other opinion as her role as wife to the heir to the throne. Never complain, never explain is the motto for the Royal family.

MintyFreshOne · 17/12/2022 13:42

Ittybittytittycomittee · 17/12/2022 13:29

To be fair, she couldn't have had any other opinion as her role as wife to the heir to the throne. Never complain, never explain is the motto for the Royal family.

There was about ten years where she could have held down a job but chose not to 🤷‍♀️

vera99 · 17/12/2022 13:56

Pippa looks a lot more fun and got the far best deal. The winner's curse....

Blossomtoes · 17/12/2022 14:09

MintyFreshOne · 17/12/2022 13:42

There was about ten years where she could have held down a job but chose not to 🤷‍♀️

Pretty standard in her social circles with parents as wealthy as hers.

ExhaustedFlamingo · 17/12/2022 14:14

What I find really irritating is that if you've picked a "side" then it seems to be that you have to lift one of the women up by criticising the other. Or if you want to criticise one, you have to do it by pointing out how the other one is better.

I'm not a fan of H&M. I was, but I think they've lied repeatedly, and they've been happy to sell out their family to the same media that they've described as dangerous.

I admire Catherine greatly - I think people have forgotten what an awful time she got off the press for many years.

I'm capable of being complimentary about Catherine without bringing Meghan into it.

If I want to criticise Meghan, I don't need to compare her to Catherine.

Even though I dislike Meghan's behaviour, I can - shock, horror! - recognise that there are many things she's very good at. She has wonderful empathy and warmth when she meets the public, and her/Harry seem to be blissfully in love.

I really hate the fact that the two women are constantly set up and compared to each other. In fairness, it happens with Harry and William too, but to a lesser degree. I think that's ridiculous too.

Comedycook · 17/12/2022 14:21

To be fair, I'm sure both Meghan and Kate have good and bad sides... positive and negative character flaws. Neither is an angel and neither is a demon.

Coxspurplepippin · 17/12/2022 14:24

'Today she sends a message through 'uncle Gary'.'

Yup, Uncle Gary is absolutely the person I'd use to get my message out............ Grin

Livelovebehappy · 17/12/2022 14:45

I think the Netflix documentary will not do H&M any favours at all. It doesn’t portray them well. I think they’ve probably squeezed their last dollar out of selling stories of the Royal Family, and it will be interesting to see who they move onto next. Anyone who has been in their lives should be very afraid.

vera99 · 17/12/2022 15:24

Anna Pasternak details how the palace:

  • Threatened legal action for a classist article she wrote about Kate Middleton
  • Negotiated edits from Tatler
  • Seemingly leaked the fact that they’d won concessions from the publisher to the Daily Mail

But “Never complain, never explain”

twitter.com/royal_suitor/status/1603512648670257185

bakalava · 17/12/2022 15:26

Anna Parsnip, great. Jessica Mulroney's sister-in-law.

vera99 · 17/12/2022 15:50

A bit more than that

www.annapasternak.co.uk/about/

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