Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

I've watched the first three. The worst part for me is how the UK is described to the US audience, the pictures of racist marches etc which albeit it do exist are not the major feature of British life that is perhaps implied. I didn't even know MM's mother was 56% black when I watched Suits. I liked MM in suits. However I have not been happy with some of the things the couple have said since which have not always been completely honest - that is my only objection and the fact they have also chosen to air things in public which is not the compact we have between royals and the people in the UK. We let them reign because they give us access to an extent to their family lives and they do not interfere in politics etc etc. I am a royalist and on the whole think they do good.

Harry could leave and easily have accepted a low standard of living in the county shires of the UK or US equivalent and never do a press interview and be left alone largely if he managed it well enough. Instead they seem to want to have their cake and eat it.

On a personal level I don't like the way they do not have it in them to take the children to see either grandfather even just for a few hours once a year. That is pretty mean. It is not as if the grandfathers have branded them with hot irons and will murder their children.

Nobody who has 1,600 dollar throws for the chair backs comes across as in touch, to me. And his 14 million dollar home. What is he thinking of? I thought he was hoping that baby Archie could grow up running around the shared space in an African Village: simple, wholesome, in touch.

To use his phrase: ' What happened?'

His life of excess and luxury is completely not in touch.

'Judge people on what they do, not on what they say', is a good maxim.

In sixty years of active service, I'm sure the Queen had people fall over curtsying, sneeze as they look up, faint, all sorts. I'm sure she was not an inflexible and harshly- judging person. Not towards them, by the sound of it. They have attended Royal occasions after what they said to Oprah. I defy anyone to name a family who would have shown such forbearance.

The couple have been accorded the public face of acceptance by the British Royal Family: that is what counts most - the official recognition.

Now is the time to cease rolling out a narrative of conflict. Because the desire for conflict within that family, appears to be one-sided.

I don't get why everyone's hand wringing over this.....pretty much everything they spoke about was the way the media behaved and a little of her not understanding 'Royal rules' straight away. The points they made are valid ones......at the end of the day Harry was forced into a job he didn't ask for from birth. The Royals and the British media will have made money from his image and his personal life. He didn't ask for that. And now he's saddled with a massive security bill for life to keep his family safe and limited ways to make money. And if he.chooses to make some of that money by flogging a few stories about that bunch of inbred weirdos and the way he and his wife have been treated then so be it.

I haven't watched the show and don't intend to because I really can't stand Prince Harry (since long before Meghan came along) but I have seen the clip with the curtsey and don't see what all the anger is about, clearly she is making fun of her own awkwardness and it is weird that they have to curtsey in private.

I think overall, as people have already said, Netflix will play it for maximum value and as such will target both those who love and hate this couple.

Harry is an overprivileged twat. All that shite on Oprah about being cut off by his father financially when he was in his mid thirties and had inherited millions from his mother. The 'woe is me' narrative constantly. He needs to shut up.

I also think that if both of them have such massive issues with the so called rascist institution of the Royal Family (which Harry was happily a part of for over 30 years) then they should give up the titles.

Overall they need to just get on with the charity work that they are supposedly so focused on and stop complaining. It will give the press less ammunition.

The part about the proposal bugged me

Has anyone else recorded a telephone conversation with their friend to tell them it was about to happen although the proposal was apparently a total surprise ?

This! Just seems so not at all in the moment.

Does anyone really think that you keep a video diary, unless you're anticipating some future breach in relations?

Archie is rolling in mud and blaming Meghan for it.😂 Harry is keeping up with his bird watching and the chickens look healthy. God, people can be really miserable. You don't have to live in an African village to prove anything to the world. Let that man live his life.

Whether you think they’re right or wrong or nice or horrible their hatred for the Royal Family and the Institution is blatantly obvious so why are they hanging on to their titles - if I felt as they do I’d be ripping those titles off me and throwing them in the bin. I certainly would not have named my daughter after its head - it doesn’t make sense. It’s time for them to cut the strings attaching them to the RF and step out on their own like the two independent grown ups they are. They should be at a stage in their lives where they no longer need the Royal association, good or bad.

It's the 3rd version of how they met and the engagement as well which is weird. Tbh if it was following them leaving the RF then probably be enjoyable enough to watch, but this focus on 'their truth' which they have already told via Oprah and stuff and has changed each time is boring and just highlights their lies- of course people are digging more as they're creating such a focus on it being the truth this the truth that. The fact they decided to document it from the start shows the intent all along tbh, its not exactly normal thought process is it.

Harry is an overprivileged twat.

there was a quote from Harry stating

we wouldn’t have been able to do this with his mothers inheritance

that’s really interesting, anyone can walk away, the money isn’t important unless you can’t live without large wealth

It really isn’t that simple no. As these threads will attest. Their behaviour has
neen the problem for most people. Also the US is far more racist than the UK.

I’ve only watched the first episode and I think they come across as a very love struck couple, trying to do the best for their children and their own mental health. The hate that has grown around this family is ridiculous and fuelled by the tacky British media.
Remember “Be Kind”. That didn’t last long!

One of the attractions of marrying him from her point of view was a readymade media audience. What he saw as a pain, she saw as an opportunity to raise her profile. The problem arose when it became clear that nobody believed her or liked her which makes her the opposite to Diana who had a lot of media hounding but a lot of goodwill and admiration.

That would be great if they were kind themselves but they are very far from kind. Malicious, I would say.

Spencer wealth came from slavery as well but he obviously wants to ignore that.

I think this is exactly right.

I thought they were sheep farmers! I don’t think their wealth is based on trading sugar or owning plantations.

Works both ways though. Are H&M being kind about William and Kate? Can you imagine your BIL going on TV and effectively saying his brother's marriage to you wasn't a love match like his is but just convenient because you will do what you're told and fit in.

Well, they bought slaves and grew their UK wealth via slavery indirectly. There is a portrait at Althorp House of Caesar Shaw (one of their slaves) which can be googled!

Re: the proposal. I know being in the army makes one hardy, but Harry was very brave having an outdoor, nighttime picnic in November in just his rolled up shirt-sleeves. And how amazing that Meghan was filming just at the right moment. If one were cynical, one might suspect that their previously stated story of proposing while cooking dinner in the kitchen was true but, realising that wasn't Instagrammable enough for their planned future book/documentary/reality show, they re-did the proposal for the camera, Harry not being freezing because he was only outside for a few minutes. Some people who follow all this more closely have said that the dates of the poor dog breaking his legs don't quite match up with their story, but I don't really know about that part. They have completely changed their story, though. (Again.)

As for Andrew, I was quite interested to learn from a BBC documentary the other night that pigs are barely capable of sweating, hence their tendency to wallow in mud in hot weather. Being farming people, do you think the royal family would already know this or should I send him a tip in a Christmas card?

@CuordiMela765 She may have been saying her attempt at a curtsy was clumsy, but she was mocking the whole point of doing it in the first place. Harry's clear discomfort demonstrated she was mocking a system he grew up in and accepted this as a sign of deference to his grandmother. Outdated? Of course it is. It's a unique institution and she was mocking and fighting against the institution throughout her time in it. She's an American and it is a bizarre way of life, as it is to most of us, but her complete disregard for Harry's comfort at her words says a lot about the couples dynamics

I disagree op! Can you give me one concrete example of her mocking the institution of the monarchy or not showing deference to the queen? She was saying she didn’t know anything about the monarchy. (And why would a little girl living in LA be interested in it or know anything about it? ). If anything, she was saying she wasn’t showing enough deference because she got her curtsey so wrong.

Btw, I wouldn’t judge anyone if they did think curtseying to their grandmother behind closed doors was utterly ridiculous.

You say that she was mocking and fighting against the institution of the monarchy while she was in it, but where have you got that information from? The British press that you call disgraceful?

And btw if you joined an organisation in good faith and found it to be both racist and misogynistic; would it be unreasonable to reject it?

And thought the dynamic between H and M
came across just fine!

Never thought of that but wow! That’s true…

Also who films finding the ring in your partners wardrobe and sends it to a friend? Really?

What do you think about that footage (it won’t be shown in their reality show) where Doria starts talking before Meghan has finished? She swings her head round and gives her mother a death stare. I found that quite revealing and it’s not something I would ever have done to my own mother.

Was he a member of their household? I doubt there would be a portrait otherwise. Having indentured slaves working on an aristocrats estate didn’t happen in the U.K. so far as I know.