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Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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username8888 · 10/12/2022 20:14

H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

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darkwinterdays · 13/12/2022 22:29

Ok so still working through the first section. So M is pissed off at her Dad as she believes that he sold his story to the paps.

Cannot help that think all this could have been avoided if M&H made the effort to visit him before the media got his hands on him. He was a sitting duck.

He must have been pretty annoyed he was practically ignored until that point. Just turn up to the wedding & meet us all then.

Ironic that she is now selling her story to the media, like she says her father did & for that now does not speak to him.

RosettaStormer · 13/12/2022 22:47

There seems to be no awareness on her part that it would have been terrifying for a reclusive elderly man in poor health and overweight, to just rock up to a massive public televised wedding in a foreign country . The wedding due to be watched by millions , when he hadn’t even met the groom beforehand. After a long flight and jet lag too. He must have been terrified.

ADifferentKindofChristmas · 14/12/2022 00:21

Bollindger · 13/12/2022 15:06

Anyone else wondering what will be in the Spare book?
After all they have said so much drivel already, what is left, for Harry to tell us the sizes of the crown jewels?

I am guessing yet another version of how they met and the proposal story.

What will that be? 3 versions per occasion?

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 00:26

I like them.They are flawed like all humans. However i think Charles and Andrew are much worse with their connections to peodophiles. I'm really suspicious how Savile managed to get away with what he did during his lifetime. John Lydon tried to get his crimes out in the open but the establishment stopped him.

jeffgoldblum · 14/12/2022 08:37

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 00:26

I like them.They are flawed like all humans. However i think Charles and Andrew are much worse with their connections to peodophiles. I'm really suspicious how Savile managed to get away with what he did during his lifetime. John Lydon tried to get his crimes out in the open but the establishment stopped him.

Why are you posting this same comment on different threads?

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 08:44

jeffgoldblum · 14/12/2022 08:37

Why are you posting this same comment on different threads?

They're all about Harry and Meghan and it's my opinion . Why would I change it for different threads.

Unifolorn · 14/12/2022 08:48

People can find Andrew abhorrent and also not be fans of M&H though, not sure why its one or the other. The reason there is so much more discussion about the latter is as there isn't much to discuss with Andrew is there, the vast majority find what he (allegedly) did disgusting and and are happy he has been stripped of royal duties and isn't doing interviews every 2 minutes. With H&M people are more divided so both sides like to shout their corner, but just because others in the family are questionable i don't see why that makes their lies and tantrums any more palatable for some people.

Unifolorn · 14/12/2022 08:49

Also isn't it interesting how they never mention or condemn Andrew and his actions? Instead they target William and Kate by and large who at most have some personal stuff behind the scenes which isn't anyone else's business. Why is that? Does Andrew have stuff on harry? Do their dubious connections (most people they have associated with have some kind of murky past) tell them not to for some reason?

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 09:05

It's interesting it is being reported that William won't have people criticise Harry no matter how much the situation must be incredibly disappointing.

He knows Harry has a very fragile mental and emotional state, he knows he is paranoid and deluded. He knows he is being horribly exploited by Netflix and all his fake allies in the US. No matter what H does I bet he'll continue to think ffs but won't want the no doubt damaging stuff they have on this pair of clowns released, as he knows Harry will end up ostracised and in a tragic downward spiral.

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 09:14

Unifolorn · 14/12/2022 08:49

Also isn't it interesting how they never mention or condemn Andrew and his actions? Instead they target William and Kate by and large who at most have some personal stuff behind the scenes which isn't anyone else's business. Why is that? Does Andrew have stuff on harry? Do their dubious connections (most people they have associated with have some kind of murky past) tell them not to for some reason?

They haven't actually targeted William. They didn't slate them in the series.

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 09:15

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 09:05

It's interesting it is being reported that William won't have people criticise Harry no matter how much the situation must be incredibly disappointing.

He knows Harry has a very fragile mental and emotional state, he knows he is paranoid and deluded. He knows he is being horribly exploited by Netflix and all his fake allies in the US. No matter what H does I bet he'll continue to think ffs but won't want the no doubt damaging stuff they have on this pair of clowns released, as he knows Harry will end up ostracised and in a tragic downward spiral.

He hasn't directly but the palace could be sending out stuff on his behalf

Unifolorn · 14/12/2022 09:17

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 09:14

They haven't actually targeted William. They didn't slate them in the series.

In their new trailer they have said they protected my brother but not me, and there are digs at them throughout the first half of this series.

RosettaStormer · 14/12/2022 09:28

Unifolorn · 14/12/2022 08:49

Also isn't it interesting how they never mention or condemn Andrew and his actions? Instead they target William and Kate by and large who at most have some personal stuff behind the scenes which isn't anyone else's business. Why is that? Does Andrew have stuff on harry? Do their dubious connections (most people they have associated with have some kind of murky past) tell them not to for some reason?

My guess is he doesn't want to alienate his cousins, particularly Eugenie, as she is the only one who still has time for him.

EdithWeston · 14/12/2022 09:30

Unifolorn · 14/12/2022 09:17

In their new trailer they have said they protected my brother but not me, and there are digs at them throughout the first half of this series.

The trailer doesn't say who "they" are

There's at least one version doing the rounds that says it means 'the press'

I also think he's overlooking just how much of his past was protected, and its still not terribly clear what he wanted protection from. They weren't being chased round London by paps (that moped could just as easily have been pizza delivery ffs), he'd put out the statement he wanted about unfair coverage, the press were by and large playing fairly at that point.

The only recent criticism had been about the absolute balls up their office made about the birth announcement, but most of the coverage had been lovely cooing over the pix with paternal great-grandparents and maternal grandmother.

I have to say I'm underwhelmed so far.

The first release was only 'most watched' for 24 hours (according to Forbes) which is not good - if the second release doesn't do considerably better, then I think the overall verdict will be 'damp squib'

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 09:40

'They weren't being chased round London by paps (that moped could just as easily have been pizza delivery ffs), he'd put out the statement he wanted about unfair coverage, the press were by and large playing fairly at that point.'

I'd be interested to hear a psychologists take on his behaviour. In my amateur assessment it's as if he has internalised all the drama from his mother and decided their experience was the same. He's just projecting massively, reinventing the past and doing this false equivalence between the Sussexes and Diana. They weren't pursued, Markle wasn't chased down the street like Fergie, Diana and then Kate.

I hope they try to shine lights in Thursday's episode. Maybe admit they behaved badly with their demands then flounce and perhaps suggest they are going to focus on work in the US then just change the record fgs.

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 10:03

Unifolorn · 14/12/2022 08:48

People can find Andrew abhorrent and also not be fans of M&H though, not sure why its one or the other. The reason there is so much more discussion about the latter is as there isn't much to discuss with Andrew is there, the vast majority find what he (allegedly) did disgusting and and are happy he has been stripped of royal duties and isn't doing interviews every 2 minutes. With H&M people are more divided so both sides like to shout their corner, but just because others in the family are questionable i don't see why that makes their lies and tantrums any more palatable for some people.

I think that Andrew should talk about it. Both him and Charles had friendships with child rapists. I want to know why the crimes of Jimmy Saville came outo after he died when it's now clear the establishment had some knowledge. Who did he have dirt on? There are still children going missing and it keeps me awake at night wondering what happened to them
I can ignore prince harry if I died on the like himso it's a very dfferent matter

username8888 · 14/12/2022 11:08

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 09:40

'They weren't being chased round London by paps (that moped could just as easily have been pizza delivery ffs), he'd put out the statement he wanted about unfair coverage, the press were by and large playing fairly at that point.'

I'd be interested to hear a psychologists take on his behaviour. In my amateur assessment it's as if he has internalised all the drama from his mother and decided their experience was the same. He's just projecting massively, reinventing the past and doing this false equivalence between the Sussexes and Diana. They weren't pursued, Markle wasn't chased down the street like Fergie, Diana and then Kate.

I hope they try to shine lights in Thursday's episode. Maybe admit they behaved badly with their demands then flounce and perhaps suggest they are going to focus on work in the US then just change the record fgs.

Exactly!

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username8888 · 14/12/2022 11:12

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 09:05

It's interesting it is being reported that William won't have people criticise Harry no matter how much the situation must be incredibly disappointing.

He knows Harry has a very fragile mental and emotional state, he knows he is paranoid and deluded. He knows he is being horribly exploited by Netflix and all his fake allies in the US. No matter what H does I bet he'll continue to think ffs but won't want the no doubt damaging stuff they have on this pair of clowns released, as he knows Harry will end up ostracised and in a tragic downward spiral.

Yes, I think Harry has been really protected by the RF and the true depth of his his mental health problems hidden until now. I think it's showing more and more how fragile he is. It's not Meghan being fed to the wolves it's Harry who is surrounded by them in all their forms.

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Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 11:21

'Yes, I think Harry has been really protected by the RF and the true depth of his his mental health problems hidden until now. I think it's showing more and more how fragile he is. It's not Meghan being fed to the wolves it's Harry who is surrounded by them in all their forms.'

It's awful. He's been played, manipulated. I'm not saying it's all Meghan she seems as deluded tbh and has as bigger a chip on her shoulder as he does. It's the media giants in the US, far more toxic than anything the UK has.They are just a hopeless combination, enabling with their endless perceived slights and tales. He needed a strong no nonsense partner.

I think the whole sorry saga will end in tragedy but it won't be in a tunnel in a france, he'll end up alone and heartbroken, ignored by everyone and in 20yrs time he'll be like Thomas Markle featuring on crap gossip shows wondering why his kids aren't returning his calls.

Rockybooboo · 14/12/2022 12:05

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 11:21

'Yes, I think Harry has been really protected by the RF and the true depth of his his mental health problems hidden until now. I think it's showing more and more how fragile he is. It's not Meghan being fed to the wolves it's Harry who is surrounded by them in all their forms.'

It's awful. He's been played, manipulated. I'm not saying it's all Meghan she seems as deluded tbh and has as bigger a chip on her shoulder as he does. It's the media giants in the US, far more toxic than anything the UK has.They are just a hopeless combination, enabling with their endless perceived slights and tales. He needed a strong no nonsense partner.

I think the whole sorry saga will end in tragedy but it won't be in a tunnel in a france, he'll end up alone and heartbroken, ignored by everyone and in 20yrs time he'll be like Thomas Markle featuring on crap gossip shows wondering why his kids aren't returning his calls.

There used to be nasty comments about Paul and Linda McCartney when they first got married saying they wouldn't last.

debbrianna · 14/12/2022 13:16

EdithWeston · 14/12/2022 09:30

The trailer doesn't say who "they" are

There's at least one version doing the rounds that says it means 'the press'

I also think he's overlooking just how much of his past was protected, and its still not terribly clear what he wanted protection from. They weren't being chased round London by paps (that moped could just as easily have been pizza delivery ffs), he'd put out the statement he wanted about unfair coverage, the press were by and large playing fairly at that point.

The only recent criticism had been about the absolute balls up their office made about the birth announcement, but most of the coverage had been lovely cooing over the pix with paternal great-grandparents and maternal grandmother.

I have to say I'm underwhelmed so far.

The first release was only 'most watched' for 24 hours (according to Forbes) which is not good - if the second release doesn't do considerably better, then I think the overall verdict will be 'damp squib'

I think what they mean is the feeding of the press with information. Unfortunately, the evidence is there online for anyone to find from the actual sources who say they have been either briefed or fed information. The bbc doc also states this. I also read or saw somewhere where it said that all "royal sources" were sources from the actual royal households to have the information legitimately but without a face. So we can take those sources as information the royal house wants the public to know without putting a name to it. I have always believed they were made up, but unfortunately, they are legitimate sources of information planting.

debbrianna · 14/12/2022 13:18

username8888 · 14/12/2022 11:08

Exactly!

Harry does say that they no longer to do chasing down the street. But due to the nature of how the internet it has turned it into virtual abuse. And some of them very target.

Inkanta · 14/12/2022 13:19

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 09:05

It's interesting it is being reported that William won't have people criticise Harry no matter how much the situation must be incredibly disappointing.

He knows Harry has a very fragile mental and emotional state, he knows he is paranoid and deluded. He knows he is being horribly exploited by Netflix and all his fake allies in the US. No matter what H does I bet he'll continue to think ffs but won't want the no doubt damaging stuff they have on this pair of clowns released, as he knows Harry will end up ostracised and in a tragic downward spiral.

How do you know he knows.

debbrianna · 14/12/2022 13:20

Inkanta · 14/12/2022 13:19

How do you know he knows.

I am sure I read a bout the fragile mental state application by Scooby yesterday as planted story.

bakalava · 14/12/2022 14:11

Aren't we all mentally more fragile since Covid. COL crisis etc.? At least he doesn't have to worry about all that. He is being used (very badly) both at home and by the US media but he is the one putting himself on the chopping board out of a misplaced sense of loyalty to somebody who is making their own way in the way in which they have always done.

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