Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

Interesting take on it. The more I listen and watch it. The more I see it as harry's escaping. The only person who could help him do that was someone with similar interest in established career with no ties and restriction.

@ivykaty44

My quotes and quotes I replied to

bakalava • Yesterday 10:41
Well, they bought slaves and grew their UK wealth via slavery indirectly. There is a portrait at Althorp House of Caesar Shaw (one of their slaves) which can be googled!

RosettaStormer • Yesterday 11:11
Was he a member of their household? I doubt there would be a portrait otherwise. Having indentured slaves working on an aristocrats estate didn’t happen in the U.K. so far as I know.

Then I said
From HistoricEngland.
Caesar Shaw
Caesar Shaw was an African enslaved to the Spencer family in the 18th century. He was baptized in Northampton and was owned by John Spencer. Caesar Shaw is featured in two portraits at Althorp House, Northampton NN7 4HQ.
You then asked if it was the same Spencer family

ivykaty44 • Yesterday 11:22
"Spencer wealth came from slavery as well but he obviously wants to ignore that."
is that the same Spence family? As previous poster states they made their money from sheep farming

I replied
Well historic england say his portrait is at Althorp so it seems likely it is the same Spencers. Not sure why they'd have the portrait otherwise.

You posted
how did owning a slave bring the Spencer family their wealth? That was where this started, as the money from his mother being dirty slave trade money that had made the Spencer family their wealth.
As far as I can find their wealth was from sheep farming back just before Tudor times.
There are many families that had sugar plantations which made money using slaves and there was the for example the Greatheed family who made there money from slaves. Greatheed was MP for Coventry. Spencer MP for Warwick etc
The royal family were in favour of salves, had dealings with slavery, thats without doubt, there is much material about George III etc

I replied
I've already said I don't know anything about where their money comes from so not sure why you are quoting me. All I did was quote information about the poor man who was enslaved and where his portrait hangs. If you want to investigate their wealth then you crack on, if you want to question someone who has said their wealth came from slavery then crack on. Leave me out of it because as I said I don't know but I do know what historic england have said about the portrait of the slave.
I hope that clarifies it.

I hope you can acknowledge that I didn't bring slavery into it, I didn't state how they made money from slavery and your issue seems to be with someone who believes they did make their money from slavery. As I said before you could both be right and they made money from sheep and slavery or you could both be wrong and they made money from something totally different. However they made their money I object to being accused of something I didn't say.

Probably true. but he doesn’t look like a man who is very happy and feels he’s escaped. He looks weighed down, surly and out of place a lot of the time. Perhaps he just hates appearing in public full stop. His public statements seem odd too. He mentioned this had been a terrible year, or words to that effect. This was before the Queen died. Why is it so terrible? He’s got everything he wants.

I don't remember him saying that. Do you remember when?

I don't think it's as simple as escaping and then everything is rosy anyway. You could almost compare it to leaving a cult in some ways. Not that the RF are evil or anything but it's a very weird way to grow up and he probably doesn't quite know who he is yet outside of it. I'm sure it takes time to come to terms with things like that.

Leaving a cult - and then not quite leaving the cult, and then wanting you, your wife and your children to retain their titles from that cult, attending high profile events within that cult and complaining when you don't get to wear the badges, and using every opportunity to monetise your connections with that cult.

To monatise also offers them. Security which has not been afforded to them unless they stay within the family. They are not your average person who can just up and leave and find peace in the outback. The life he wants, he can never truly get and I would hope as people, we can understand. Can we truly imagine the DM leaving him alone? Even pre-Meghan, think about it.

He inherited approx £15 million from his Great Grandmother & Mother Combined.

I assume that HMQ will also have since left him a fair sum as a shall we say "little top up".

Oh and here's an idea, maybe they could both get an actual job?

All which would pay for security and a lifestyle the vast majority of people on this planet could only ever dream of

So absolutely no need to "monetize" the cult at all is there really?🙄

That is their job. What jobs and qualifications do royals have? Harry did his army thing. Most army people will move on to other ventures too. Has moved forward with what he knows. That's being in the public eye. Meghan is still on the camera. Now tell me what job you think best suits them. Don't say animal conservation or orphanages because that requires them to be in the public eye to create awareness.
Also, 15m in the grand scheme of things for celebrity of his stature will not last that long when you include security, which they actually require. Not because they are pompous.

£15m might not last long but in the current climate you'd have to be tone deaf to plead poverty.

He is a trained helicopter pilot. I’m sure he can put that to good use. She can use some of the money they have to retrain. I’m sure she can think of something. Teach yoga ? She could train as a yoga teacher. They’d have to give up their mansion and designer clothes, but they could do it. I can’t see either of them working full time. They’re pampered
and spoilt. I do wonder what Doria makes of it all. She seems to live like a normal person.

It was in a speech over the summer but I can’t remember where now. It struck a jarring note at the time .

Lol, this very funny.😁

I've often wondered what their outgoings are a year.

Security
The vehicles
Staff - domestic
Staff - secretaries & admin
PR
Legal advice
Business costs
Any mortgage?
Insurance
Health insurance
Property taxes
Personal taxes
Running the house
Clothes and image
Stylists

I remember reading about a celebrity couple who divorced and the financial details contained the gem that the marital home had fresh flowers that cost thousands of dollars a month. A month.

Could Harry not increase his hours? Take in some ironing?

If they want to continue to monetise their position in the RF then they really need to rethink their strategy in order to remain relevant. While they continue to tear the RF to shreds they will probably find that their invitations to family events become fewer, which means less to talk about - there's only so much whingeing about their perceived treatment by the RF years ago that people are interested in.

Protection? Yep, they were warned about that.

Perhaps they could take in a lodger - MN always advises this.

Please tell me that you didn't just post with a straight face that a couple living in a $14 million mansion whilst monetizing the deferential and hierarchical system they themselves insist on using, that they are not pompous?

Get away with you, you are pulling our leg now😅😅

Oh & as PP's have said "retrain" maybe?

If my DDad could do it at 61 whilst battling Cancer after being made redundant after working since the age of 14 I am pretty sure 2 overprivileged, healthy, young, rich adults can🙄

If they had decided to step back from public life but continued to live in the UK then most likely security would have continued to be provided for them especially now that Harry is the son of the King. The costs of providing them with security in another country would have been astronomical and impractical.

TBH I think they could leave and find peace in the outback, I didn't see any photos of them on their private trips to Africa. Both Princes went on gap years after school, I don't remember any pap photos, the only thing we saw was the offical media stuff that was put out.
When William and Kate were in Anglesey I don't recall anything about them being hounded by papparazzi like we've seen photos of them in London.

In 2000, it was revealed in court that Elton John spent £293,000 in 20 months on flowers www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/elton-john-spent-over-pound-290-000-on-flowers-why-because-he-can-622192.html

Security was removed from the UK. That was, they legged it to Canada.

Yes, I did write the 14m. I think we need to stop comparing our lives to someone like Harry or Meghan. There are also many more important things at play. It would not surprise me if their security were 1m a year or month. That's something they can't scrimp on. I know if I were them, I would not take that risk. Pay for the best security money can buy.

In which case they need to do what the rest of us do and cut their cloth accordingly - if security and a quiet life are really their two main priorities then an annual income of £15m is more than sufficient.

Well they could always "scrimp" on a few less Hermes blankets to make up the cost.

You are such a comedian, Thanks for keeing me entertained whilst sat in hospital 😅😂😅

Agree. People say the H&M are rich whiners (maybe true to an extent) but conveniently forget that Diana also "whined" (it could be said) on TV. The most uber privileged woman of the 80s complained about press intrusion, her marriage, the royal family conspiring against her etc etc. Why was that OK then? That was far more explosive than what we've seen so far of H&M.

As for the curtsey, I think some are very deliberately misinterpreting the scene. Meghan was clearly making fun of herself, she didn't realise that curtseying was a Real Thing, she didn't know that she was going to have to do it, or how to do it. Her frame of reference was "Medieval Times", not sure what that is, a TV show? But anyway she was mocking herself for her over-the-top, flowery way of curtseying. She definitely did not mock the Queen. Harry looked like he was cringeing for sure, but maybe he was. He should have taught her how to do it!

Oh I agreed to a previous poster but I forgot to quote it!

I always thought they'd set up a film and TV production company using her industry contacts and his money as the start up investment. Seemed to make sense. Then make some wise investments. We probably would have seen them at premieres and awards ceremonies but I don't think anyone would have objected to that.

It would not surprise me if their security were 1m a year or month

Seems a bit much to protect them from a man on a moped...