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Are Netflix secretly playing Harry and Meghan?

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username8888 · 10/12/2022 20:14

H&M think they are dictating the Netflix narrative, but I wonder if Netflix are actually playing a longer game? This was billed as their story, but they are so tone deaf and are exposing themselves to ridicule with their ham fisted attempts to justify their behaviour. It's so full of ridiculous unsubstantiated statements and generalisations with no evidence to back it up. It's using stock photographs of photographers that have nothing to do with them. Why not show real photographers? A ridiculous car chase with a lone photographer on a moped provoking panic and faux fear in the couple is laughable. And as for Harry's face as Meghan takes the piss out of the queen? This was definitely seen by the editors who chose to leave it in.

Will Netflix get a double helping from this series with the candy-floss fluff that's the first airing, with a second being the dissection of this sad and deluded pair?

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ADifferentKindofChristmas · 11/12/2022 16:02

Of course she was telling the truth when she said she had no idea about Royalty/Monarchy etc, etc......

oh wait...........

metro.co.uk/2018/05/19/meghan-markle-goes-tourist-duchess-picture-outside-buckingham-palace-15-7560721/

ivykaty44 · 11/12/2022 16:08

I know everyone will think I am making this up for the purposes of this thread but the church thing actually happened to me.

many people have a dress rehearsal, We had a dress rehearsal before our wedding, but as pp states we didn't sign the register or have witness do that etc

we weren't married, maybe it did put a tingle up a spine and it was all exciting.

The fact it was a dress rehearsal will have been explained to Megan and why they do it.

CuordiMela765 · 11/12/2022 16:09

torquewench · 11/12/2022 15:59

Im sure someone will correct me if Im wrong but are you not married unless it's witnessed properly and you sign the register in front of a registrar?

Mine was a Catholic wedding; don’t know if that makes any difference or not but my witnesses were present the night of the rehearsal but the registrar wasn’t. But the words of the priest meant more to me than the signing of the legal document ifyswim.

Thisisnotalife · 11/12/2022 16:12

I saw the first three episodes here. Most of their criticisms is geared towards the tabloids culture. She doesn’t really outright criticize the royal family. They should get thicker skin! My hunch is she suffered enormous culture shock! They typecast her as the divorced black woman and were probably not very helpful.
i like how Harry shows how he grew from his nazi costume days etc and was willing to educate himself about unconscious bias etc. I have renewed respect for the man.

Aspiringmatriarch · 11/12/2022 16:19

ADifferentKindofChristmas · 11/12/2022 16:02

Of course she was telling the truth when she said she had no idea about Royalty/Monarchy etc, etc......

oh wait...........

metro.co.uk/2018/05/19/meghan-markle-goes-tourist-duchess-picture-outside-buckingham-palace-15-7560721/

Why are people so literal? I despair, honestly.

ivykaty44 · 11/12/2022 16:23

Mine was a Catholic wedding; don’t know if that makes any difference or not

no, a catholic priest can marry people just the same as a vicar of an Anglian church or baptist church etc

there are some religions and humanist weddings that are not legally binding and a trip to the register office is needed

Aspiringmatriarch · 11/12/2022 16:23

Justasec321 · 11/12/2022 14:50

Seems they were roasting a hicken when he went outside to set up for the propoasl. No friend on standby to film - she filmed it for her firend. She seems very excited.

The wedding thing is pretty clear I think? They had a blessing in private before the ceremony. To THEM, that was the day.

You should watch it- it may help you get things straight?

Spoiler alert: it will not help them get things straight.

Diverseopinions · 11/12/2022 16:24

CuordiMela765 · 11/12/2022 10:59

@CuordiMela765 She may have been saying her attempt at a curtsy was clumsy, but she was mocking the whole point of doing it in the first place. Harry's clear discomfort demonstrated she was mocking a system he grew up in and accepted this as a sign of deference to his grandmother. Outdated? Of course it is. It's a unique institution and she was mocking and fighting against the institution throughout her time in it. She's an American and it is a bizarre way of life, as it is to most of us, but her complete disregard for Harry's comfort at her words says a lot about the couples dynamics

I disagree op! Can you give me one concrete example of her mocking the institution of the monarchy or not showing deference to the queen? She was saying she didn’t know anything about the monarchy. (And why would a little girl living in LA be interested in it or know anything about it? ). If anything, she was saying she wasn’t showing enough deference because she got her curtsey so wrong.

Btw, I wouldn’t judge anyone if they did think curtseying to their grandmother behind closed doors was utterly ridiculous.

You say that she was mocking and fighting against the institution of the monarchy while she was in it, but where have you got that information from? The British press that you call disgraceful?

And btw if you joined an organisation in good faith and found it to be both racist and misogynistic; would it be unreasonable to reject it?

And thought the dynamic between H and M
came across just fine!

They have programmes such as Downton Abbey in the US. I expect everyone watched Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice, done over by Andrew Davies in 1995, and saw Mrs Bennett calling her husband Mr Bennett, to his face, at the breakfast table. You can get a feel of formality and what was trying to behave properly and responsibly, back then. Most Americans feel that Brits are more formal than they are used to, in a whole range of situations and contexts.

You don't have to 'know' about monarchy to know the gist of it. I know nothing about Arab sheikhs, but I can imagine the gist of a European marrying one and the conventions they would need to follow. Crikey, even GCSE students have got to be able to imagine life 100, or 200 years ago, to get the gist of it and social class conventions, back then, and they are 16 and know naff all about it. People can assimilate a general idea.

She got. 30 point check list didn't she, of important points to learn about her new role. Well. Let's imagine, she realises it's new territory, and she is asked - along with Harry - if they want to be working royals. Most people would say, 'Not right away, if that's ok. Give us a year settling in, first.'

Nobody is critisizing how she curtsied, anyway. That isn't an issue. Why would it be? Why mention it, other than to flag up the sense of unequal relationships with the Royal Family. I'm sure Mike Tindall got things wrong initially and Sophie Wessex made a major gaff with the News of the World sting. I don't think the Hierarchy make your life miserable for making a mistake.

I'd like to counter back, is there any suggestion or record of Meghan being corrected for curtseying badly or doing a walkabout the wrong way? Was it ever a big deal when it happened?

If we heard from other commoners marrying in, what it is really like, we'd have some reference stick to measure H and M's comments against. But that is unlikely to happen as they don't speak out for fear of starting a slanging match.

But it looks like the aides might try to have their say and defend themselves, since they are the personnel being accused of lack of sympathy and excessive demands.

It's correcting Her Majesty about what 'service' means which is disrespectful. That was in their statements on leaving the monarchy. Or not telling the Queen and her staff that they were going to put out a statement saying they would be carving out a progressive new role within the Monarchy ( in the States). That's a kind of lack of professional respect too, doing that kind of thing without a private heads up, and would be considered as such, if you did it to any workplace boss.

ImaginaryDragon · 11/12/2022 16:27

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torquewench · 11/12/2022 16:38

CuordiMela765 · 11/12/2022 16:09

Mine was a Catholic wedding; don’t know if that makes any difference or not but my witnesses were present the night of the rehearsal but the registrar wasn’t. But the words of the priest meant more to me than the signing of the legal document ifyswim.

My wedding was also Catholic. However, no one is legally married until the register is signed.

I mean words uttered by priests/celebrants are fine and all that but it's called a rehearsal for a reason 😁

Lesserspottedmama · 11/12/2022 16:51

It really freaked me out how she was low key taunting her husband about the paparazzi all the time and feeding his very obvious sensitivity about them. Kind of horrifying. I really don’t see them lasting the distance and honestly I think he’ll be a bit of a mess emotionally afterwards whereas she will probably go on to better (richer) things.

RosettaStormer · 11/12/2022 16:53

I can’t imagine anyone in their right mind saying the rehearsal was the real wedding. It’s just a slap in the face to everyone concerned apart from themselves of course. Because they’re special and in the know.

ittakes2 · 11/12/2022 17:02

Diverseopinions · 11/12/2022 09:57

Does anyone really think that you keep a video diary, unless you're anticipating some future breach in relations?

This

ImaginaryDragon · 11/12/2022 17:12

Is that directed at me? I am absolutely not race baiting. The sheer about of hatred for H&M is mindboggling. The dismissal of the role racism and prejudice played in her departure is appalling and should not stand unchallenged.

username8888 · 11/12/2022 17:30

ImaginaryDragon · 11/12/2022 17:12

Is that directed at me? I am absolutely not race baiting. The sheer about of hatred for H&M is mindboggling. The dismissal of the role racism and prejudice played in her departure is appalling and should not stand unchallenged.

Yes, I'm afraid it is. I had to reluctantly (as I believe in free (but respectful) speech) report you. Your baiting of other posters and then reporting them, is a low thing to do.

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username8888 · 11/12/2022 17:36

Netflix are giving H&M an awful lot of rope, along with a lot of money, and I think they will hang themselves eventually. However much they throw insults and mockery at other people, and paint themselves as star crossed lovers, the public can see through it. The Americans are not as gullible as some people think they are. I have many american friends and they all say they'd never heard of her before her marriage, take little interest in the royal family and are simply not interested in their 'story'. They did however like the Queen.

MM was a tadpole in a big pond in america. Harry was a big fish in a little pond here. Together they are two small sad fish trying to swim upcurrent in a pond they will never be big in. Why? No talent, no integrity and a one topic wonder.

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bakalava · 11/12/2022 17:45

It is their initiation into reality tv but they don't really have the qualities needed to succeed in a major way. For a start, they are too old by decades (Nick and Jessica were more the age for couples reality and of course, Love Island couples ).
Secondly, Meghan is not likeable to a wider American audience and Harry is irrelevant. Say what you may about the Kardashians but they were actually quite engaging and started out young.

ImaginaryDragon · 11/12/2022 17:49

username8888 · 11/12/2022 17:30

Yes, I'm afraid it is. I had to reluctantly (as I believe in free (but respectful) speech) report you. Your baiting of other posters and then reporting them, is a low thing to do.

Feel feed to confirm with Mumsnet, but I did not report any posts. I spoke my truth cognisant of my lane and lived experiences. There is ample evidence out there to support what I said about Meghan. Shame on you and your appalling detective skills.

username8888 · 11/12/2022 18:11

@ImaginaryDragon This thread isn't about race. Why do you persist? Its about how Netflix are making money out of a very sad situation, with two very disaffected people flailing around, lashing out at family and others, trying to get the public onside and failing miserably, while Netflix rake in the money, leave damaging lies and misdirection unchecked, and frankly, make this absurd couple look stupid. I am sure Harry's family, who have loved and protected him all his life are shellshocked and fearful for his mental health. He looks unwell.

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Inkanta · 11/12/2022 18:13

I am sure Harry's family, who have loved and protected him all his life are shellshocked and fearful for his mental health. He looks unwell.

Oh for goodness sakes!

Moxbeal · 11/12/2022 18:19

Lesserspottedmama · 11/12/2022 16:51

It really freaked me out how she was low key taunting her husband about the paparazzi all the time and feeding his very obvious sensitivity about them. Kind of horrifying. I really don’t see them lasting the distance and honestly I think he’ll be a bit of a mess emotionally afterwards whereas she will probably go on to better (richer) things.

I can see it now. Megan:My story. A book deal and a Netflix show her break up with Harry.

ImaginaryDragon · 11/12/2022 18:44

username8888 · 11/12/2022 18:11

@ImaginaryDragon This thread isn't about race. Why do you persist? Its about how Netflix are making money out of a very sad situation, with two very disaffected people flailing around, lashing out at family and others, trying to get the public onside and failing miserably, while Netflix rake in the money, leave damaging lies and misdirection unchecked, and frankly, make this absurd couple look stupid. I am sure Harry's family, who have loved and protected him all his life are shellshocked and fearful for his mental health. He looks unwell.

I posted a addressing the role of 'moderates' and race. The only word people picked up on was race. Get a perspective - I did not go through all 12+ pages hunting down down people to throw the race card at. You on the other hand made a baseless accusation and don't have the integrity to apologise. 'Harry looks unwell' but his wife is a 'No talent, no integrity and a one topic wonder'. Good to see such genuine concern.

MarshaMelrose · 11/12/2022 18:57

@ImaginaryDragon
'Harry looks unwell' but his wife is a 'No talent, no integrity and a one topic wonder'. Good to see such genuine concern.

I have a different take from the op. I think "Harry looks well" and "he's a no talent, no integrity and a one topic blunder".
Is that more acceptable? 🤔

ImaginaryDragon · 11/12/2022 19:07

MarshaMelrose · 11/12/2022 18:57

@ImaginaryDragon
'Harry looks unwell' but his wife is a 'No talent, no integrity and a one topic wonder'. Good to see such genuine concern.

I have a different take from the op. I think "Harry looks well" and "he's a no talent, no integrity and a one topic blunder".
Is that more acceptable? 🤔

Almost - you just missed the bit where you blamed Meghan and feigned concern. C+

ReneBumsWombats · 11/12/2022 19:16

username8888 · 11/12/2022 18:11

@ImaginaryDragon This thread isn't about race. Why do you persist? Its about how Netflix are making money out of a very sad situation, with two very disaffected people flailing around, lashing out at family and others, trying to get the public onside and failing miserably, while Netflix rake in the money, leave damaging lies and misdirection unchecked, and frankly, make this absurd couple look stupid. I am sure Harry's family, who have loved and protected him all his life are shellshocked and fearful for his mental health. He looks unwell.

Harry and Meghan aren't making money?

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