Can Charles remove Harry's 'prince' title

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I've noticed that the Removal of Titles Bill is going through Parliament and people have been talking a lot about Harry and Meghan losing their titles. Does this just refer to the Duke and Duchess titles, or does this also include stripping Harry of being a prince?

I’m just baffled as to how Harry and Meghan can bear to use their titles if being in the RF was really so bad.

I think there are millions of reasons for that. Maybe a hundred million reasons. 😁

Ooooh yeah, I forgot the Duchy moving also. (Am tired).

Yes I did mean George V.

So, with that example, that means Henry would just be HRH The Prince Henry. And M being Princess Henry (can’t see that happening).

All a moot point. There’s no way the bill will pass. Or be enacted.

There is nothing much original about the Duchy Originals they are just overpriced biscuits for posh people who don't 'do' biscuits. I would vote that they should be renamed...

They all go up one.

In 1901 Victoria was Queen, Future Edward VII was PoW. Future George V started as Prince George of Wales (from his father) then created Duke of York when he married. Future Edward VIII was Prince Edward of York when he was born (from his father).

When Queen Victoria died Edward VII became king. Future George V was made PoW. Future Edward VIII was the Prince Edward of Wales, as this was a higher title than Prince Edward of York. If he had had children they would have been Prince/ss X of Wales, becoming Prince/ss Of GB and Northern Ireland when George V died.

Just doing nothing is the best solution.

Yes I agree.

tbh I don't think the response after the OW interview can be improved.

Basically - don't agree with everything you've said, but are not going to argue over details in public. Love from your family.

It's not a solution
But with the mess the 'royals ' are in with sex abuse scandals, financial 'irregularities' and other mis use of power - they are boxed in
Hoist by their own petard if ever I saw it .

@Sigma33

That response that you think so clever - wasn't .
It looked cynical and dismissive and a big mistake in light of the racism they have only recently acknowledged ( eg sacking Hussey ) and the death threats that the police now acknowledge to be real.
The broadcasts of journalists a few years ago pressing their ( anti H and M) point as being legitimate as it came directly from 'sources ' in KP now add evidence to the William briefing against M and H story .

The days if the the firm getting away with ' never explain' are gone .

@Novella4

We'll have to agree to disagree.

If my sibling started making - rather vague, let's face it - accusations in public my response would be the same. 'I'm happy to discuss this with you in private, but I am not going to use the media to conduct a tit-for-tat you-said/no-I-didn't spat.

Apart from anything else, everything gets exaggerated and it all becomes all-or-nothing, there is no ground for reaching an understanding. Of course, if you take the approach that either side is completely right/completely wrong then that style of 'warfare' works for you. But I suspect a lot of what has gone wrong has been misunderstandings, culture clashes, reaction to past trauma, and whole lot of other 'stuff' that isn't about the big issues of racism, colonialism etc

None of the issues you put forward will be solved by their current course of action, all that will happen is people will double down and both sides will become more entrenched.

H&M's statements have said that they wanted to continue to do royal engagements, that they supported the Queen, they use the titles that were awarded by the monarch as head of the institution of the royal family. They are very far from being republicans!

Why would he?

My enemy's enemy and all that .

I am well aware that they aren't republicans ( as far as we know ..)

But they have shone a light on racism , media manipulation, sexism and the silent royal women.
'Recollections may vary ' Simply will not cut it when dealing with these issues
It was dismissive and inadequate.
Let's see if the 'royals ' can do better after the next three episodes

'Recollections may vary ' Simply will not cut it when dealing with these issues

It will cut it against H&M's insinuations about unspecified people saying unspecified things.

I am delighted if people like David Olusoga are getting airtime, his series on the history of black people in the UK was fascinating - and very emotional when he revisits the home he and his family were forced to leave after being attacked by racist thugs. Those are the sorts of 'credible threats' that DO need more funding and police attention. However, I don't think tacking him onto the story of H&M gets the message out to people who wouldn't have tuned in to his other work.

Interesting 'my enemy's enemy' - I have suspected that a lot of support for H&M was not actually support of them and their actions, but they are a useful tool to attack the RF. Which explains why so many 'supporters' sidestep the questions about why they are using their titles etc

I don't think you can take away titles. I mean they become Prince because they were born into a family, it's not something they achieved so you can't remove it even if you're annoyed with one of them. It's either a birth right or it isnt.

Nah, hopefully they won't even bother with the whole 'H and M are much loved family members'.

I think (could be wrong) that the Queen supported that bit but Charles and William may feel very differently.

Yes, it has been done. Last in 1919, but nothing has changed since that would remove that avenue - www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31203/page

That was at her request. It was done in 1917 to various German relatives of the RF who also held UK titles, without their consent.

Plus, of Edward & Sophie's children are Prince/ss but have never used the titles. It's a choice whether they are used or not, even if they are not formally relinquished

Interesting 'my enemy's enemy' - I have suspected that a lot of support for H&M was not actually support of them and their actions, but they are a useful tool to attack the RF. Which explains why so many 'supporters' sidestep the questions about why they are using their titles etc

Oh I don't suspect it, I know it. I think getting rid of the RF is the aim of a lot of different people around the world for various different reasons.

I think Charles should remove 'Sussex' and replace it with 'Windsor'. The last Duke and Duchess of Windsor were Edward VIII and Wallace Simpson

Of course it will. Why bother stooping to H&Ms level. The palace doesn't need to comment, sometimes no response is the best response.

But Harry was Prince Harry from birth so not his choice. If he chooses to relinquish the title that's fine

If they were removed, who would be next in line after William and his kids?

It couldn't be Anne, could it? So, Edward?

The Princess who relinquished her 'princess' and HRH had them from birth - Queen Victoria was her paternal grandmother.

Same with the various German royals - the UK and Hanoverian RFs were joined until Queen Victoria, so the Hanoverian RF descended from one of her cousins with the title Duke of Cumberland.

The Dukes of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha went to Queen Victoria's sons because Albert's older brother died without children, so came to Albert and his heirs.

They were all born with the titles. The Germans had them taken away, the Princess chose to relinquish hers.

Plus, as I said, just because someone has a title doesn't mean they have to use it in everyday life.

Well the latest Netflix trailer shows him saying the “palace lied to protect William” so surely they will have do something about Harry. It sounds as if there will be a possibly embarrassing reveal on the next episode.

If they were removed, who would be next in line after William and his kids?

If Harry and his children were removed from the line of succession (which would require an Act of Parliament), Andrew and his daughters are next in line.

How revealing these comments are

The palace lies to protect William ,
KP feed negative stories to bolster W and K , Harry opens up and tell the truth and 'we need to do something about Harry'!

If this was on a stately homes thread you'd all be telling Harry that the scapegoat is the truth teller and to keep telling the truth !
Royalists are brainwashed