Page 4 | Can Charles remove Harry's 'prince' title

gottogo23 · 2022-12-10T12:47:27+00:00

I've noticed that the Removal of Titles Bill is going through Parliament and people have been talking a lot about Harry and Meghan losing their titles. Does this just refer to the Duke and Duchess titles, or does this also include stripping Harry of being a prince?

Novella4 · 12/12/2022 10:31

The government must be loving H and M now

Love them or hate them that's all the media is covering
Great distraction from the utter mess of the UK economy and services

Novella4 · 12/12/2022 10:33

@ComingRoundAgain
who the fuck cares who is called what - it's all made up nonsense !
To read some of these royalists you'd think they believe 'royalty' is a real 😂

LlynTegid · 12/12/2022 10:36

A Private Members Bill rarely gets passed, unless tacit government support.

Lampzade · 12/12/2022 10:50

Abraxan · 11/12/2022 11:36

Can't see them removing it.

Let's face it, Andrew still has his prince title and his behaviour has been far worse than anything Harry has done tbh.

This

Lampzade · 12/12/2022 10:50

Novella4 · 12/12/2022 10:31

The government must be loving H and M now

Love them or hate them that's all the media is covering
Great distraction from the utter mess of the UK economy and services

Exactly

donquixotedelamancha · 12/12/2022 10:50

I wish they could, surely his behaviour is treason?!

By that reasoning, Andrew needs beheading and quickly!

Why? All Andrew has done is exploit his privilidge for sexual gratification and personal benefit at the expense of a few commoners. He hasn't remotely stepped outside the bounds of expected conduct for the RF.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 12/12/2022 10:52

TroysMammy · 10/12/2022 14:08

I've mentioned this on another thread, they will be titled Prince and Princess Henry of Wales. Sussex will be happy but I for one would be disgusted they will be linked to Wales. Why should we have them?

I don't think they'll get the "of Wales" name as this is for children of Wales. His father isn't of Wales anymore so Harry is no longer of Wales.

Crucible · 12/12/2022 10:52

Genuine question, where is anyone getting the quoted figures for security costs? I'm not second guessing anyone who has quoted, for example, 9 million quid annually. That just seems an absolutely ridiculous amount of money. What are they doing and where are they going that this is the cost?!

BadSantaToo · 12/12/2022 10:55

Theunamedcat · 11/12/2022 09:54

Diana had her HRH removed can he do that to Harry? would he ever do that to his son? He is an emotional man so spite is possible

There is spite but there is also protection of the rest of his family and the Crown itself.

bakalava · 12/12/2022 10:56

Prince Andrew is still a "prince" not of Wales, obviously.

luckylavender · 12/12/2022 10:57

I think Prince and Princess sounds better than Duke and Duchess. Especially in America.

WinnieTheW0rm · 12/12/2022 10:58

ComingRoundAgain · 12/12/2022 10:29

Even now there’s a new P&PoW??

The King is no longer a Wales. So can Henry keep that? I wouldn’t imagine so. Without his own title, his father’s name to take would be Cornwall, surely?

If it happens (which I doubt) I think the most likely outcome would be Prince Henry Mountbatten-Windsor.

Obvs she’d rejoice at the chance to be called a princess, but she’d have to drop her feminist values and use her husband’s name.

He's son of the monarch. He doesn't need to be 'of' anything

(BTW, the PoW is also the Duke of Cornwall)

NoAlexa · 12/12/2022 11:04

Wanttobefree2 · 10/12/2022 13:51

I wish they could, surely his behaviour is treason?!

I also wonder if they can remove him from the line succession instead, surely the current situation makes the royal family unstable if something happened to William and his family.

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Eh ? surely his behaviour is treason?!

Hbh17 · 12/12/2022 11:09

Without the Dukedom, it would be The Prince Henry and The Princess Henry.
Which is why the Dukedom is unlikely to be removed because, colloquially, they will almost certainly be known as Prince Harry & Princess Meghan. Although incorrect (as was "Princess Diana"), it will catch on and we can be pretty sure that the Californian duo would be delighted, as Princess sounds much fancier & higher status than Duchess.

Many in the US media don't understand Royal titles (why should they?), which is why it sets my teeth on edge now they have started talking about "Princess Kate"!

Novella4 · 12/12/2022 11:09

@NoAlexa
Off to the tower with them !

NoAlexa · 12/12/2022 11:09

gottogo23 · 11/12/2022 11:30

I suppose the problem is, if their titles are taken away and it does reduce their ability to make money then they may be more at risk from the public. I read somewhere (no idea if it's true) that they need to make 9 million a year just for their security. So he may run out of enough money to keep his family safe.

I suppose the other thing to acknowledge is that being in the US, he is unlikely to ever visit Sussex or be able to represent them, so why would he need such a title. The King may as well take it back.

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Well if they werent in the public eye so much, that bill would reduce....
they need to make 9 million a year just for their security

vera99 · 12/12/2022 11:10

"Duke" Ellington should herafer be called by his real name Edward and Andrew by the title His Royal Nonceness The HRH Duke of Yorkie whilst we're at it. Can we table those as amendments ?

Novella4 · 12/12/2022 11:11

@Hbh17
Royal titles are invented nonsense
All of them

vera99 · 12/12/2022 11:11

donquixotedelamancha · 12/12/2022 10:50

I wish they could, surely his behaviour is treason?!

By that reasoning, Andrew needs beheading and quickly!

Why? All Andrew has done is exploit his privilidge for sexual gratification and personal benefit at the expense of a few commoners. He hasn't remotely stepped outside the bounds of expected conduct for the RF.

😅

vera99 · 12/12/2022 11:13

Novella4 · 12/12/2022 11:11

@Hbh17
Royal titles are invented nonsense
All of them

As are all those bloody drag Queens - they are nothing of the sort and they are not women either.....

lemmein · 12/12/2022 11:13

TroysMammy · 12/12/2022 09:17

@Onnabugeisha Prince William is Prince of Wales. He's not Prince William of Wales which he was when King Charles was Prince of Wales. There is no title Prince of England.

He could be styled Prince Henry of Wales just like Prince Michael of Kent.

It's all fucking ridiculous 😂

ComingRoundAgain · 12/12/2022 11:14

The PoW is the duke of Cambridge. The King is the Duke of Cornwall.

And yes, I wondered if there even needs to be an ‘of’.

I was wondering what George VI’s young children were known as after he became King, and Edward became PoW. George was only 16/17 at the time and up to that point had been George of Wales. Does that just stop?

In which case, that’s why I thought they’d simply use their children’s last name.

vera99 · 12/12/2022 11:16

The Duke of Edinburgh was from Greece ffs....He was born on Corfu - maybe he should have been a Duke of that.

Adultchildofelderlyparents · 12/12/2022 11:34

Born as the son of the Prince of Wales at the time, Harry automatically has the title HRH Prince Henry of Wales.
Just as William was Prince William of Wales but when he became The Prince of Wales, George became Prince George of Wales etc.
Harry doesn't use the Wales title because he was given the Dukedom of Sussex title of his own. William stopped using the Wales title when he was given the Dukedom of Cambridge, but of course is now The Prince of Wales.
Meghan would be Princess Henry of Wales by marriage but the Duchess of Sussex title is her own.
They agreed not to use HRH when they stepped back from royal duties. I believe Charles would be reluctant to remove either Prince or Duke from Harry because he probably desperately hopes to get his son back one day.

SamBob · 12/12/2022 11:35

ComingRoundAgain · 12/12/2022 11:14

The PoW is the duke of Cambridge. The King is the Duke of Cornwall.

And yes, I wondered if there even needs to be an ‘of’.

I was wondering what George VI’s young children were known as after he became King, and Edward became PoW. George was only 16/17 at the time and up to that point had been George of Wales. Does that just stop?

In which case, that’s why I thought they’d simply use their children’s last name.

William became Duke of Cornwall the second Charles became King. The Duchy of Cornwall belongs to the eldest son of the monarch unless the monarch is without a son.

I think you mean George V do you? His children were for example HRH The Prince Albert between his father becoming King and him being created Duke of York prior to marriage. In the same way the current Earl of Wessex was HRH The Prince Edward.