Why do people feel it’s okay to say nasty things about Meghan on social media?

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Why do people care so much about her and Harry’s relationship and are so intent on just being incredibly nasty about someone they don’t even know or really know the truth about? Harry must love her and be happy so why don’t the media and people on social media just let them be?

genuinely asking as I don’t understand why she gets so much hatred everywhere, must be really bloody hard for them to see it all the time. People act like she’s a murderer or something.

Here's a whole page of results even if the Times articles are, I think, behind a paywall. You can still see they've reported on this. They would not and could not have done this without incredibly strong evidence. tinyurl.com/2ktr4c57

Can you show me ? Because I kind of think when there is an agenda against someone it's easy to fabricate "evidence " to justify being really unpleasant about someone .

Hopefully you’ll be admonishing her agent as well then. Because he didn’t realise she was mixed race at first.

I didn’t realise at first, my first thought was that she’s bloody stunning, her heritage didn’t enter my head.

And I wish people would stop with the stupid lower/upper case typing bullshit. I gather it’s supposed to make a “point” no matter what type of thread it’s on. But it’s irritating and detracts from any “posts” for me.

I'm dreadfully sceptical about claims like that

I get called stuff all the time . On here as it happens! Because of my job . But it doesn't make those claims true . So I do sustain a healthy dose of scepticism.

TBF, their Netflix deal was signed way before the OW interview was aired - so it wasn’t a case of signing something new to correct what had aired. And, from some of the footage, they were recording stuff way before either deal was done.

Releasing personal footage of how they got together. Absolutely fine.

Am interested to see background to the photo of them leaving the palace after exit discussions. I don’t think they had permission to take photos then.

Just google

sunday times meghan harry bullying

I did and tried to post the results but for some reason the link was automatically hidden. The Times articles are behind a paywall but there are plenty of them - you can see the essence of what was written about (I've read some of the actual articles but on hard copy). It alleges, robustly, that many, many staff have spoken up to say they were bullied and other staff witnessed these incidents that drove people from their jobs and caused trauma. I think her behaviour in public is entirely consistent with these claims. I find them completely believable and the fact it's the Times makes them very strong. The lying can easily be seen. Watch the Oprah interview and she claims things like having her passport taken away from her when there are loads of press articles about her visiting other countries during the period in question. This to me is proof of her abuse against the royal family (who I'm not a massive fan of). She's gaslighting them and us with massive, obvious lies designed to hurt them but that are so poorly thought out they just damage her and Harry. Like saying they had a secret wedding before their public wedding. The Archbishop of Canterbury has gone on record to say this is categorically untrue. Which he had to do to protect his own reputation as an honest man himself. I don't believe much of what she says after all that and never will.

Oh Sunday times ! Must be true then . Since it's a newspaper.

Jesus, that’s a really informed position - not!

I have my issues with them. I try to post in a measured way about them. I might not get it right, but I do try.

Your kind of post does you no favours.

What do you really mean OP? Do you think they are perfect, like the perfect couple perfect family perfect values perfect ideology perfect life?

Besides the point, what would you qualify as "nasty"? Like everything in life, there are extremes you should ignore on both sides. They are far from perfect and some see one side and some other people see the other side.

They don't want "privacy" they want celebrity on their own terms (including money). There is some nastiness in that don't you think?

It's one of the most respected newspapers in the world on the basis of the quality of their journalism.

I don't really believe in quality journalism, especially when it's sensationalist and earns £££ for dishing dirt .

Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't - I assume you don't know her so how you can say this with so much confidence is just baffling to me.

And even if she does it doesn't justify the ridiculous amount of hatred towards her. So fucking what?

What a well thought out, rational comment...bravo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙄

I'm fed up of people who dislike some of their behaviour being called racist because she comes from mixed heritage.

She has been the victim of racism, I'm absolutely not denying that. She even wrote an entire article about it, in 2015 (www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/news/a26855/more-than-an-other/). That was prior to meeting Harry, btw, after which she was exposed to even more. It actually came up with her character on Suits (I was a big fan!).

But if I say, for example that I don't like the way they've both gone on Oprah to air their grievances with the RF or complain that they didn't like the media attention (which it's their right not to like) that's not a racist comment. Harry is not remotely black!

I think Harry's behaviour has been appalling, including towards her. If she wasn't fully briefed on how to behave with his relatives, that's 100% on him. He had info he didn't share with her and left her feeling uncomfortable in social situations, repeatedly. If I made a criticism about her behaviour though, that would be deemed racist by some. It's not. Unless I'm criticising her because of her race. It's also not automatically unconscious bias. Although I agree that can sometimes - but not always - play a part.

I think this flagging of everything as racist (by people who support her) does a disservice to those fighting racism. Including probably Meghan herself. I'm going to posit a theory that even Meghan (and Harry) don't like every single black person, or the behaviours of everybody who happens to have a darker skin tone than Harry. Were they to criticise anybody in that category, it wouldn't make them racist. Unless they did it because of race.

So some criticisms are clearly racist. But not all are, by a long shot.

I actually think much of the difficulty, including some in the press is cultural tahrth than racial. Not all - I've previously agreed there's also racism. I have a North American mother. She's had similar experiences in the cultural differences between life in the U.K. and her North American culture as Meghan has talked about. Obviously not in the RF though!! But it was 50 years ago when she moved to the U.K. and things were much different then, more akin to the rather old-fashioned, uptight (some may say) behaviours of the RF. Straight talking and hugging were like garlic to a vampire in my father's middle class military family! 😂 There were many misunderstandings and hurt feelings. Purely due to cultural difference. I sometimes think it's easier when cultures have different languages or majority religions, because then the difference is more blatant. When the language or majority religious culture is the same, it's easier to forget everything is not the same - and that goes both ways.

You can dislike her all you want for me but why do people feel the need to slate her on SM ? That's what the thread is asking .

People clearly can't abide by the adage if you've nothing nice to say- say nothing.
Why slate her ? That's what the op is asking .

Sorry but I've reported the post calling her a - I know plenty of people deserving of that accolade but to say that when you don't know her ? Pretty awful.

Because to some degree she is arguably still seen as representing our country to the rest of the world given the links to the monarchy that she and Harry have chosen not to give up (they still use the titles the queen gave them) and much of our hard earned cash has gone to enrich her and her husband who are now telling lies about us as well as their own families to enrich themselves further. People are allowed to be angry about that and to talk about that. You don't have to like it at all but it's not that complicated to understand why people want to discuss them.

I'm at a loss really . All these people saying she's this , she's that , she loves the attention, she's a ,

I've never seen such vitriol and nastiness about someone who seems on the face of it fairly decent , and who the posters of those comments don't even know .

What was that be kind shit ?
People get hurt by this - Caroline flack killed herself because of this type of vitriolic shit - this stuff hurts people- real people with feelings.
Honestly- people should be fucking ashamed. If this were you're sister or daughter - how would you feel? It's like a bloody sport . Who can be the most vile .
Seriously people need to get their own life and leave people they do t know alone to get on with theirs.

I cannot fathom the depths some people can sink to .

But she doesn't seem like a decent person on the face of it. There have been umpteen news reports written about her abusing her staff and she's been proven to be massively dishonest in a way that clearly hurts her family as well as this country. If you still think she's a decent person after all that then that's your right but nobody else has to agree with you and for the most part they don't. You reap what you sow. To paraphrase a great woman from history, if you want people to talk warmly of you, then you need to treat them well. It's basic stuff.

If you don't believe in quality journalism then you're not going to ever have an informed discussion about anything you're not personally involved in and I think that's going to hold you back in life! I read the articles and they weren't in any way sensationalist. And of course journalists should get paid for doing their jobs, just as you would expect to be paid for doing your job.

@stillvicarinatutu you've reported my comment because I called her a cunt 🤣 tbf cunts are useful.

How do you know she's decent,
Do you know her personally?

She doesn't talk to her family, his family, bullied staff, wanted out (the firm) but won't shut the fuck up about it but yeah it's definitely everyone else and her & ginge the whinge are all sweet & innocence 😇

I just know things aren't always so cut and dried .
Families are odd . Even prestigious ones .

I've actually emailed archewell with a message of support because I feel for them both . It won't get read obviously 😂. But I just instinctively like them . Each to their own eh ?
I can't help but like them . I do think Harry is is mothers son , and I salute that he is choosing his own path in line with his values and his love for his family. Maybe if his father had done the same he wouldn't have fucked up so many lives .
And I like Meghan . I don't get the hate for her at all. She seems very genuine and earnest . They both seem to want to make something of a difference in the world . Compared to other royals I think Harry is the most normal , doing his tours of Afghan and his charity work, his time in Africa scrubbing loos and building fences - I don't know he just seems like a decent bloke .

I wish them both well . They seem like a force for good .

Oh - and me

I've never been held back by taking a total disinterest in journalism.
There are many respected sources that have been proven to be in it for themselves- panorama with Diana ? She was deceived I to that interview. By the bbc . So I have little respect for media . I prefer to make my own mind up .

Diana played the media & loved the attention too 🤷🏻‍♀️

As for Harry & Meghan sticking to their values; like they're such environmentalists they flew in on a private plane to pick up an award for their 'work' against racism (nazi harry) while his father King Charles 3rd was out & about doing his royal duties on the ground meeting & greeting the public.

You couldn't make it up, what are people missing about them 2 clowns?