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Lilyyy · 2022-12-08T21:02:37+00:00

Why do people care so much about her and Harry’s relationship and are so intent on just being incredibly nasty about someone they don’t even know or really know the truth about? Harry must love her and be happy so why don’t the media and people on social media just let them be? genuinely asking as I don’t understand why she gets so much hatred everywhere, must be really bloody hard for them to see it all the time. People act like she’s a murderer or something.

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 00:31

@stillvicarinatutu No, not even Armenian ones.

Nancienoo · 09/12/2022 00:32

stillvicarinatutu · 09/12/2022 00:29

Oh dear god . All lives matter. Yep .

But this is the point - ok ? Mm has been racially targeted because of her RACE . White women (of which I am one ) don't get that type of shite do they ?

it's relevant because she has suffered racist abuse and she is mixed race - is this Darwinism at its finest or what ?

Well yes they do I actually used to work with a man who said white women smell different unpleasant. Is that not racist?

Redwineandroses · 09/12/2022 00:32

ChillyFingers · 09/12/2022 00:26

I never thought much about her until 'tiara gate'. Had thought it was odd the wedding was full of celebrities and she had no family members there. Not even distant cousins at such a huge event. It's hardly that they had to worry about numbers and cost! I bought into the drama with her Dad and that he'd allegedly faked a heart attack. Thought that was super weird. Then her sister saying stuff about her.

When the rumours of her being 'difficult' with staff and the alleged upsetting of Kate, I did think Wow, 5 minutes in the RF and already causing problems, what does that say about someone?

Then more came out and I read up about her Dad, how he must have felt when Harry said she'd get the family she never had marrying into the RF (ha ha). How he brought her up and how the heart attack was real and she never even visited him after saying what he'd done for her on her blog. Harry never even met him. All the rest of the staff bullying allegations, rumours of tea throwing(!), the no one asks if I'm OK comment while visiting Africa, the returned wedding rings in the post etc. It all builds up a picture over time. Not to mention all the other stuff like I can say anything I want, setting up the OW interview and broadcasting while Philip was dying, allegations of 'racism' within the family designed to point the finger at everybody but naming no one, another the RF is horrible TV show just a few months after the death of it's 70+ year leader.

Really! She wouldn't have the massive platform she is absolutely loving being on, if she hadn't married into it. She takes front and centre in everything. Its obviously her driving it.

Having had experience of people who behave terribly and then turn themselves into the victim, you can spot the behaviour a mile off. I think she's a raging narcissist and it's been interesting seeing it play out on a global stage to the scale it has, and also how so many people can't see it (plenty do though). She truly thinks she can bring down the monarchy and usurp Kate (especially) and William as she wanted the starring role within just a few years of getting involved in a centuries old institution! Come on even if you hate the RF, you've got to think Whoa!

Very interesting to observe someone like that who is constantly putting themselves in the public eye and showing themselves so clearly. I can't stand Harry either. I think he's horrible too but pretty harmless. Her on the other hand..,,,

In years to come we'll have Harry telling his story of it all but he's very blindsided at the moment, or as the Queen said "maybe a little too in love."

But you don't recognise it until you're out of it unfortunately then you look back and think wtf. It's not like Edward and Wallis Simpson as in Harry was able to marry his divorcee American (which is obviously a good thing) with his families blessing. Someone even 40 years ago wasn't allowed ie: Charles and Camilla.

Just4ThisThread · 09/12/2022 00:36

Nancienoo · 09/12/2022 00:25

Not changing the subject but for years I’ve been hearing Music slating white women from certain people is that racist ?

Name them.

stillvicarinatutu · 09/12/2022 00:37

Nance

I'm not playing top trumps . Two racist comments do t make a right .
Someone being racist about white women and how they smell is racism .
Racism is racism - but I'm going to bet more racism has been thrown at Meghan . As week as legitimate death threats and harassment. I'm not excusing racism in any terms . But I also aren't excusing it because a mixed race actress married an English prince and some people don't like it . 🤷🏻‍♀️

ComfortablyDazed · 09/12/2022 00:38

BonnesVacances · 08/12/2022 23:53

Then your problem is with the media. Who dredge up stories from god knows where all the time.

So far they've been criticised for Oprah, the podcasts, and this Netflix series. That's 3 things in how long? Hardly attention seeking is it?

It's the newspapers that decide to print yet another story about them because it sells. And nothing sells more than hate. And haven't the media done an excellent job in stirring up that!

Just shows how gullible people can be!

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You’re funny. How on earth are those broadcasts to the planet not attention seeking…..?!

When was the last time you broadcast to the planet?! Once? Twice? Three times?!

As I say, every time they’re in danger of getting what they want - slipping into obscurity and having a private life - out they come via Oprah and fucking Netflix. Oh, and apparently podcasts, which I didn’t even know about.

Nancienoo · 09/12/2022 00:40

stillvicarinatutu · 09/12/2022 00:37

Nance

I'm not playing top trumps . Two racist comments do t make a right .
Someone being racist about white women and how they smell is racism .
Racism is racism - but I'm going to bet more racism has been thrown at Meghan . As week as legitimate death threats and harassment. I'm not excusing racism in any terms . But I also aren't excusing it because a mixed race actress married an English prince and some people don't like it . 🤷🏻‍♀️

@stillvicarinatutu maybe she needs to shy away from Oprah and Netflix it’s not making her miss popularity

Redwineandroses · 09/12/2022 00:41

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 00:28

There is a difference between race and nationality.

This is why I did not want to be pulled into this conversation with you. Because it detracts from the facts of what happened to Meghan by the press and you aren't here to further the conversation.

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You didn't even realise Kk wasn't white. You implied Armenian/Italian/Greek Americans don't consider themselves as mixed race yet African Americans do because MMs mother just happens to be one.

KK - white mother/Armenian American father.

MM - white father/African American mother.

Both have mixed race in them and you can't just pick and choose the whats and how's of who's black/who's not and who's mixed race to fit your argument because it's there written really clearly.

MM in fact mixed race, not black as is KK. Not quite sure why you're so intent on suggesting otherwise.

stillvicarinatutu · 09/12/2022 00:43

I'd suggest watching the documentary and then give an opinion.

Some of what has been said in social media is blatant racism , and I completely understand why Harry and Meghan have gone public with it . They've slated no one except the media which let's not forget killed Harry's mother . I think he has a bigger axe to grind than he has tbh . He's come across as a lovely , intelligent, family man , honest about his mistakes and unconscious bias.

I like them . Both . 🤷🏻‍♀️

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 00:43

Please show me where Kim K, or any of the family, has claimed to be mixed race. Or where they have received racist abuse online.

Nancienoo · 09/12/2022 00:47

stillvicarinatutu · 09/12/2022 00:43

I'd suggest watching the documentary and then give an opinion.

Some of what has been said in social media is blatant racism , and I completely understand why Harry and Meghan have gone public with it . They've slated no one except the media which let's not forget killed Harry's mother . I think he has a bigger axe to grind than he has tbh . He's come across as a lovely , intelligent, family man , honest about his mistakes and unconscious bias.

I like them . Both . 🤷🏻‍♀️

He’s come across as under the thumb love

Nancienoo · 09/12/2022 00:48

Nancienoo · 09/12/2022 00:47

He’s come across as under the thumb love

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his mother was killed because the driver was off his nut on cocaine and drink but that’s for another time

Redwineandroses · 09/12/2022 00:54

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 00:43

Please show me where Kim K, or any of the family, has claimed to be mixed race. Or where they have received racist abuse online.

Wow really. On their show... they have celebrated/spoken about their Armenian heritage alot. They eat at their favourite Armenian restaurant on the show and talk about growing up eating the foods and you can see how they adore the food as they've grown up with it and reminisce about their late father. Kim and Chloe also visited Armenia where the people were so happy the family were proud to be representing the country. Kim also met Cher where they talked about being proud woman of Armenian heritage.

Racist abuse online... Well that's something you'll have to look up yourself. I get not everyone knows every celebs heritage but you're really ignorant on this one.

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 01:01

I absolutely know that they are Armenian and that they are proud of their heritage. Even knew when they went there. Doesn't mean that they suffered racist abuse online.

You cant link it because it never happened. In the US, they are classified as white and they enjoy a ton of white privilege because of it.

Redwineandroses · 09/12/2022 01:02

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 00:43

Please show me where Kim K, or any of the family, has claimed to be mixed race. Or where they have received racist abuse online.

Kim and kortney also got baptised there a few years ago with their children and have donated millions in causes over there.

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 01:03

Not surprisingly, that doesn't answer my question.

Good evening to you.

Redwineandroses · 09/12/2022 01:07

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 01:01

I absolutely know that they are Armenian and that they are proud of their heritage. Even knew when they went there. Doesn't mean that they suffered racist abuse online.

You cant link it because it never happened. In the US, they are classified as white and they enjoy a ton of white privilege because of it.

That's abit of a lazy comment isn't it: "you can't link it because it never happened."

No I'm not trolling through online to look up stuff you can do yourself. You didn't even know they had American heritage let alone anything else and have come up with some ridiculous points to save your argument. It's OK not to know about certain stuff, especially celeb twaddle, so don't keep trying to save your argument based on ignorance.

The fact is they are as a white/black as MM is and that's a fact. Sorry.

onlylarkin · 09/12/2022 01:14

Not finding racist abuse that never happened is not lazy.

You have no idea what I know or don't know.

This is the last time I will respond to you unless you can show me where the Kardashian's have suffered racist abuse and how it relates to the abuse Meghan has suffered at the hands of the press. After you do that, I am happy to continue the conversation on how the press can be reigned in with their racist articles to work towards changing this for all women.

Have a good night!

OhChristmasTreeOhChristmasTreeFaLaLa · 09/12/2022 01:31

I find it bizarre how you can "hate" anyone you've never met and have no idea what they are actually like. Does make me laugh the people full of hatred spouting nastiness (based on press nonsense, written to make money) are the same ones who posted "be kind" allover everywhere. It's all very high school.

Dissuadepersuade · 09/12/2022 01:59

Because how bloody dare she complain about racism.

Really she's so brazen about it

She should've accepted it and kept quiet

That is the whole vibe about it all in my opinion. Posters say its because she should not be airing dirty laundry in public however if it was about anything but racism and from a white person they would be saying kh she's so brave to do that.

stillvicarinatutu · 09/12/2022 02:11

Is calling me "love" meant to be as patronising as it sounds ? Because I guess it depends - I'm a 50 year old single Independent woman and tbh - I find this use of "love " incredibly patronising.

I'd expect it from a 60 year old misogynistic arsehole. Are you ?

Dotcomma · 09/12/2022 02:11

They both come across to me as genuine, very relaxed together. She actually makes me laugh when she admits her misgivings & mistakes in her attempts to do the right thing at the right time.

meinteresamucho · 09/12/2022 02:15

They almost definitely bullied their staff. And she's a proven liar of epic proportions. Surprised so many people keep forgetting these things. These are what has damaged her credibility to the extent that nothing she says about what has happened to her can be fully believed. I don't doubt she's experienced some racism but it isn't the reason most people dislike her. It's the lying and the bullying. Harry seems to have been part of the bullying too hence his own poor reputation these days.

stillvicarinatutu · 09/12/2022 02:17

meinteresamucho · 09/12/2022 02:15

They almost definitely bullied their staff. And she's a proven liar of epic proportions. Surprised so many people keep forgetting these things. These are what has damaged her credibility to the extent that nothing she says about what has happened to her can be fully believed. I don't doubt she's experienced some racism but it isn't the reason most people dislike her. It's the lying and the bullying. Harry seems to have been part of the bullying too hence his own poor reputation these days.

Where is the evidence for this ?

meinteresamucho · 09/12/2022 02:21

Reported in the Sunday Times - one of the most respected publications in the world. And then picked up by almost every other newspaper. The lying stuff too, widely reported and very easily verified.