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Discussing the things we liked about Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary series

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 14:22

There are so many threads on things posters hated about Harry and Meghan, the Netflix series, and fair play to those posters, so I thought I would have a go at stating a thread discussing some of the things that posters liked about the series.

I'll start.

I liked that this was supposed to be this bomb detonation, but has actually been a measured, warm, and loving look at H and M's relationship, and the pressures that the press put on them, and also on other royals. I genuinely did not notice anything incendiary. Maybe that is still to come.

I enjoyed the thoughtful insights shared on the invisible contract, especially, as Harry says, having to perform for a press that you know has said hurtful things about people you love.

I loved the warm memories of Sandringham, and meeting the Queen. And Meghan's memories of growing up. I think it was a wise, though sad, that they did not include Thomas. I really loved hearing Doria: my favourite bit is when a journalist offered her money, for an interview about Meghan and she said, "That's my child!"

I also learned for the first time about Meghan's relationship with her sister Samantha's daughter Ashleigh. I had no idea that she had been raised by her grandparents who adopted her, or that she had such a warm and caring relationship with Meghan. Along with Doria's, that was my favourite interview.

I enjoyed hearing from her childhood friends, as it is often said here that she had no friends who came to the wedding etc, just celebrities. They seem a tight nit grip who have been here fr years, and I am glad she has them.

I was gobsmacked that she needed security in Toronto after the relationship was announced.

I also thought the discussion on racism, in its wider context of colonialism and imperialism, was very well done, but then again it was led by David Olusoga and Afua Hirsch, who are always great, and I love their writing.

Most of all I love that Harry confronted head on the Nazi uniform debacle, and what he learned from it. And I loved, loved, loved, the segment on his life in Lesotho where they gave him the Sesotho name, "Mahale". A wonderful name.

“It was one of the biggest mistakes of my life,” Harry said. “I felt so ashamed afterwards. All I wanted to do was make it right. I sat down and spoke to the chief rabbi in London, which had a profound effect on me. I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. I could have just ignored it and made the same mistakes over again in my life. But I learned from that.”

I predicted on another thread that Harry would address this and other episodes head on in his book. I was scoffed roundly for this. I expect him to say more in is book, and I am happy to be proved right.

If only for this, I am very glad they did this.

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Waxxy · 08/12/2022 19:07

I loved the way he talked about his white privilege, and how he has grown and learnt about how to be a better person. I don't really get all the comments about him seeming like he's scared of her. I think people have formed opinions of them and will always find something to fit their narratives. Confirmation bias.

Frequency · 08/12/2022 19:16

I enjoyed watching the personal clips from their early relationship. They appeared to be genuinely happy and in love.

The thing I took away from it the most was how horrendously the British media treated her. I don't think she was prepared for it or understood just how invasive it would be. I don't think anyone outside of the Royal family and their inner circle could ever truly grasp the enormity of it until they lived it.

Re: them making money from it and needing press attention to stay relevant and keep earning - do you really think the press' actions - breaking into her place of work, stalking her childhood friends etc was in any way OK?

MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 19:25

Ohnonevermind · 08/12/2022 18:48

My issue is the comments about Kate,

Meghan is the one who used Lainey (and her celeb website) to trash kate, she’s called her waity Katey on OW she’s implied she fits a mould, she’s cold

i just wish she would leave Kate out of it.

On Oprah, she referred to headlines in the press that called her "Waity Katy". She did not call her that.

I do not know who Lainey is or how you know Meghan was leaking stories about her.

Nor did she say Kate was cold. She simply used the anecdote about meeting both Will and Kate, in this series, to talk about how she had no clue of social expectations in the royal family. It was more about her than them actually.

She has mentioned Kate in the engagement interview where she said she was wonderful to her, and in the Oprah interview, where she said she's a good person, who sent her an apology note after some incident, and went on to say, you don't have to tear me down to prop her up, or tear her down to prop me up, or words to that effect.

I suggest you follow them.

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ILoveMyBedTooMuch · 08/12/2022 19:48

justgettingthroughtheday · 08/12/2022 16:36

@ILoveMyBedTooMuch maybe I don't know you but I can tell enough from your oats exactly what type of person you are!

My oats?

talkingpaperclip · 08/12/2022 19:52

Favourite part was M's relationship with her niece, of which I was unaware.

For those who haven't seen it, M's sister Samantha had a daughter who was raised by the grandparents and had no relationship from Samantha from age 6. M found out about the niece, connected with her over email, found out that they were of a similar age and interests and ended up becoming very close friends (far pre Harry), including treating her niece to city breaks once M was earning Suits money.

M was told she could not invite the niece to her wedding bc it would draw attention to the bad relationship w Samatha. Samantha's daughter had nothing positive to say about her mum. To me, this said a lot about Samantha's character and M's. I say this as someone who feels pretty neutral about M and H and finds some of their behaviour ridiculous.

ShirleyPhallus · 08/12/2022 19:54

I’ve watched all 3s episodes and really enjoyed it. I totally agree with the OP on all points, really interesting to see things from inside

Also agree that the real enemy is the press. Which is demonstrated even more now by the DM having 150 articles about it including a live blog?! Why??? They are obsessed.

Looking forward to more episodes

Ohnonevermind · 08/12/2022 19:58

I follow them?

Ohnonevermind · 08/12/2022 20:06

Lainey - lainey Lui friend of Meghan and author of a fairly shit Canadian celeb news website. She was the person who claimed that Kate wouldn’t go shopping with Meghan Markle.

I just admire Kate’s ability to stay high, I hadn’t heard her admonish the press before someone linked to her being hounded on her doorstop

I’ve been teaching my youngest son about consent. He doesn’t have to accept hugs and kids if he’s not comfortable, equally he asks before hugging people outside the family.

onlylarkin · 08/12/2022 20:11

Just finished the second episode.

I loved the story of her meeting the Queen. Meghan no doubt like an American idiot down on the floor, like all Americans would, and members of the royal family were kind and gracious.

I could just picture the queen having a chuckle at her attempt.

So far, I have not seen anything that would imply that they are "throwing the royal family under the bus".

I have left with an opinion of the British public who drive this media abuse by
purchasing the tabloids. But I won't share that here, lest I be banned.

I was shocked when it was said in episode one how much the tabloids push cha he with thier narratives. Also surprised in ep 2 at the amount of racism in the country during/after the EU referendum. I shouldn't be though as we were also dealing with it here in the US as well.

onlylarkin · 08/12/2022 20:12

*change

LizzieSiddal · 08/12/2022 20:19

I just watching Episode 1. I love the fact teh
media are getting the hammering they deserve. Of course that means the media will trash M&H even more, but I really hope people watch this and actually see what they’re talking about rather than relying on the Daily Mail, The Sun etc.

LizzieSiddal · 08/12/2022 20:20

Excuse typos.

Username917778 · 08/12/2022 20:28

I know nothing about this pair other than mumsnet hating Megan so thought I'd put it on while wrapping some presents and thought they seemed like a really genuine loving couple.

onlylarkin · 08/12/2022 20:42

Wow, Meghan and her neice definitely share a family resemblance

ShirleyPhallus · 08/12/2022 20:53

onlylarkin · 08/12/2022 20:42

Wow, Meghan and her neice definitely share a family resemblance

They really do don’t they. I had never heard of Ashleigh before, interesting to hear about her

onlylarkin · 08/12/2022 20:56

I had not heard of her either. Very telling, though, that she wad not raised by Samantha and that she no longer has a relationship with her.

onlylarkin · 08/12/2022 21:58

It saddens me that the negative threads have so many more posts.

I lived the scene where she was trying on her red dress and the stylists were all under her skirt. Harry seems like a funny guy!

Friendofdennis · 08/12/2022 22:33

I couldn’t work out the look on Harry’s face though when Meghan appeared to be mocking the Queen by doing an over exaggerated bow / curtesy and sarcastic laugh

LizzieSiddal · 08/12/2022 22:35

I thought she was mocking herself rather than the Queen.

Friendofdennis · 08/12/2022 22:43

I’ll have to watch that bit again then. I thought she was mocking the need to curtesy to the Queen

LondonWolf · 08/12/2022 22:44

I watched the first episode. I'm always telling my children they have to have all the info before forming an opinion so I put my money where my mouth is.

I found them to be more genuine than I had expected and that's all I am going to say for now.

Still struggle with Meghan's vocal fry though Grin

yesforone · 08/12/2022 22:44

I loved how their humour came across. Harry in particular seems quite funny! I also learned a lot about British media and got me thinking about how they might be reigned in a bit if the public stopped craving gossip and tatty newspaper articles . Lots to think about for me and I enjoyed watching .

Roussette · 08/12/2022 22:45

Friendofdennis · 08/12/2022 22:43

I’ll have to watch that bit again then. I thought she was mocking the need to curtesy to the Queen

Totally not. She was showing how she overdid her first curtsey or when she was practicing it as she'd never done it before

Quirkyme · 08/12/2022 22:58

Good thread OP.

I'm glad we get to see and hear from her beautiful mother, Doria too.

I'm on the 2nd episode and I'm enjoying it.

onlylarkin · 08/12/2022 23:44

I loved hearing from Doria. I was shocked at the media contacting friends, and family and co-workers offering to pay for planted stories. I had heard they do that, but to hear it confirmed.

One that that stuck out to me is how positively Meghan talked about her father. I did not expect that.

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